Wigan v Liverpool, 8pm.

seanwhite20 · 21-12-2011 10:59PM

Another case of not beating a team we should be putting away if we want top 4. very disappointed

th3 s1aught3r · 21-12-2011 11:00PM

missed chances again
lots for Kenny to ponder

Crazy Horse 6 · 21-12-2011 11:00PM

Arsenal scored in the last couple of minutes iswell :mad:.

kingshankly · 21-12-2011 11:00PM

applehunter wrote: »

Downing needs to be told to just let the ball in.

Too many times he gets too clever and gets in a position to cross and drags the ball back.

If its in the box it at least has a chance of goal opportunity.

This is Winger play 101 ffs.

he needs to be told to fcuk off full stop

tok9 · 21-12-2011 11:00PM

I know there is a lot of talk of lacking creativity etc but I think what we really lacked was Lucas. Wigan had way too much control of the match for large parts of it.

Also really disappointed again with the whole Carroll situation and how again Downing and Bellamy didn't swap sides! Am I missing something?

dfx- · 21-12-2011 11:01PM

applehunter wrote: »

Downing needs to be told to just let the ball in.

Too many times he gets too clever and gets in a position to cross and drags the ball back.

If its in the box it at least has a chance of goal opportunity.

This is Winger play 101 ffs.

Looked to be playing the ball with his wrong foot. Any reason why he's on the wrong wing?

Nalz · 21-12-2011 11:01PM

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

missed chances again
lots for Kenny to ponder

Like a p45.

Ardent · 21-12-2011 11:02PM

Too many poor players out there tonight. I keep saying it but Downing has been a bitter bitter disappointment this season. Kuyt had another one of his mares.

What was the point of the Shelvey substitution??? Totally ineffective when he came on, seemed to be playing in an advanced role, WTF??

Well done to Martinez and Wigan - perfect tactics: totally stifled Liverpool in the second half and probably should have won it late on.

Handsome Bob · 21-12-2011 11:02PM

Bitterly disappointed in that peformance, even though we had the chances, we lacked that aggressive bite that I was expecting.

IrishKev · 21-12-2011 11:03PM

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

IrishKev wrote: »

Honestly can't understand what you mean mate

What are you on about?

This

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

IrishKev wrote: »

What's going on with the SS commentators with Suarez? The way they're talking you'd swear he's just lost a relative or come back from injury or something. 'He must be commended... Hasn't let the manager down' etc etc. I thought they were against racism!?

:rolleyes:

J. Marston · 21-12-2011 11:03PM

Diame was class.

applehunter · 21-12-2011 11:03PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Liverpool never looked like winning it, to be honest.

They dominated the 1st 25 mins.

Could have got a couple at that stage.

Wigan came back after that.

Missed pen. too

K-9 · 21-12-2011 11:04PM

When people think Enrique was great it kind of sums up the team. All effort but not much delivery or punch.

Kirby · 21-12-2011 11:06PM

applehunter wrote: »

Downing needs to be told to just let the ball in.

Too many times he gets too clever and gets in a position to cross and drags the ball back.

If its in the box it at least has a chance of goal opportunity.

This is Winger play 101 ffs.

hes being played on the wrong wing. Consistently. If kenny was such a good manager he would have realised it doesn't work and switched him.

Sgt Pepper 64 · 21-12-2011 11:07PM

Not so easy beating Wigan is it lads?

sh__93 · 21-12-2011 11:08PM

Very dissapointed..
Enrique actually was good.
We didn't create enough decent chances and it looked like we let frustration get the better of us near the end..

Also, i like the look of Victor Moses, and he's still very young..
Keep the faith though.. Roll on Blackburn

ShamoBuc · 21-12-2011 11:08PM

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Not so easy beating Wigan is it lads?

No shít sherlock.

Crazy Horse 6 · 21-12-2011 11:08PM

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Not so easy beating Wigan is it lads?

Ya think

Crazy Horse 6 · 21-12-2011 11:10PM

IrishKev wrote: »

This

You called the sky guys part of the SS, yes? hense the rolleyes.

niallo27 · 21-12-2011 11:11PM

The problem with downing is most of the time there is no one in the box to cross it too, Suarez is not going win many headers.

Jayob10 · 21-12-2011 11:12PM

Ardent wrote: »

Too many poor players out there tonight. I keep saying it but Downing has been a bitter bitter disappointment this season. Kuyt had another one of his mares.

What was the point of the Shelvey substitution??? Totally ineffective when he came on, seemed to be playing in an advanced role, WTF??

Well done to Martinez and Wigan - perfect tactics: totally stifled Liverpool in the second half and probably should have won it late on.

the elephant in the room is the signings. They have been poor, theres no excuses.

Downing was a strange signing considering the style of fluid football Kenny wants to play. Carroll is on the way out aswell i'd imagine, very disheartening for a striker to only get 4 minutes when your team is deadlocked at 0-0

Too open in midfield, no ball winner, very little guile in supporting areas going forward, and desperate lack of a finisher.

Its just so disjointed. The build up is far too slow, but its also understandable given the lack of pace in the side.

The only positive is the emergence of Agger and Skrtel as an excellent partnership. We are not going to get 4th unfortunately and questions will be asked given the money spent in the summer its a simple as that, although no doubt excuses will be made for coming up short.

Sunderland, Swansea, Norwich, Wigan, losses to Stoke and Fulham, this is poor stuff.

Sure theres a feel good factor with a nicer brand of football, but we can only really go forward (in terms of signing the best players) with Champions league football.

BlueBaron · 21-12-2011 11:15PM

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Not so easy beating Wigan is it lads?

We had a run of bad games where luck was not on our side, players missing chances they should be scoring, and decisions going against us, but the last few games we have really picked ourselves up and have been playing superbly...Delighted with the point tonight, and feel we could of nicked it right at the end, a point each was a the fair outcome

IrishKev · 21-12-2011 11:19PM

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

IrishKev wrote: »

This

You called the sky guys part of the SS, yes? hense the rolleyes.

SS as in Sky Sports, if that's confusing you... Other than that I'm lost as to what you don't understand.

Crazy Horse 6 · 21-12-2011 11:20PM

niallo27 wrote: »

The problem with downing is most of the time there is no one in the box to cross it too, Suarez is not going win many headers.

The problem with Downing Niallo is he can't cross the ball all that well tbh. I know people go on and on about the Carroll signing for 35m but tbh Downing was a shocking piece of business for 20m odd.

Ardent · 21-12-2011 11:21PM

You're right about the signings Jayo. We're going about things in the right way on the pitch but the quality in terms of playing staff just isn't there. Adam and Enrique have improved the team for sure but the others have been huge let-downs.

Carroll, Downing and Henderson: £75+ Million for that??! Who's to blame?

Mr Alan · 21-12-2011 11:24PM

Been very happy with Henderson over the last month or two tbh.

Downing too has been decent without spectacular.

The issue is entirely upfront-we need to start putting the ball in the net. We are dominating games. Playing decent football. Defensively excellent. We just not doing it upfront. That's everyone (with the exception of Bellamy).

lempsipmax · 21-12-2011 11:28PM

I have seen nothing to suggest that a Liverpool revival is going to happen any time soon. Nor do I have confidence that kenny is the man to deliver success. And no this is not the start of an idiotic 'kenny out' campagain. Just an observation that despite significant investment in the team and 12 months in charge progress is apparently absent.

seanwhite20 · 21-12-2011 11:28PM

IrishKev wrote: »

SS as in Sky Sports, if that's confusing you... Other than that I'm lost as to what you don't understand.

Not SS as in these guys?? hmmm....

Crazy Horse 6 · 21-12-2011 11:30PM

Ardent wrote: »

You're right about the signings Jayo. We're going about things in the right way on the pitch but the quality in terms of playing staff just isn't there. Adam and Enrique have improved the team for sure but the others have been huge let-downs.

Carroll, Downing and Henderson: £75+ Million for that??! Who's to blame?

Harsh on Henderson. He's young and is showing promise. Carroll is still young but the price paid for what imo is an average centre forward is questionable. Downing there is just no excuses for.

Crazy Horse 6 · 21-12-2011 11:32PM

IrishKev wrote: »

SS as in Sky Sports, if that's confusing you... Other than that I'm lost as to what you don't understand.

Ah gotya now :pac: Thinking you where a bit harsh on them tbh.

Wigan v Liverpool, 8pm.

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