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Memories of the Troubles

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,192 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    I remember seeing Gordon Wilson interviewed. It wasn't my earliest memory, but it was the first time I felt really affected and angry.




    I remember as a very young child going on holidays on the boat to England, and my mother telling me to keep quiet or the English special branch will ask us to take everything out of the car (which took ages to pack in the first place :) ).


  • Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My earliest memories would be going to newry and the peace process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    As a child hearing about my friends Grandmother being killed by a provo bomb on a train and years later a workmate telling me bout his cousin being shot dead in the North aged 19 , she was the first greenfinch ( female UDR ) to die in the North.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,796 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    Was visiting relations in Warrington the time of the bombings-their friends were so rude,assuming that just because I was Irish,I was responsible for the bombings.

    Remember vividly the Hunger strikes of early 80s, the "Wanted" posters showing Mgt Thatcher, will always stay clear in my mind.
    thatcher+murder.jpg

    Can remember RTE news announcing the start of temporary ceasefire every Christmas- then the tension waiting for the bombing to start over again,a few days later.

    Have visited Belfast many times in last decade- lovely place,but the feeling of sadness and anger can be felt still, and somehow, I think it will live on for many more years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭Fozzie Bear


    God lots of very vivid memories. Maggie Thatcher and Haughey, Ian Paisley roaring about the Pope or the southern government. I still remember watching him in a cherry picker putting up an Ulster says no banner in front of Belfast city hall to a baying mob. Tom King or Tom Cat as Paisley called him getting heckled and almost assaulted by Unionist protestors. Peter Brooke being forced to sing by Gaybo on the Late Late and having to resign shortly after. Mo Mowlam's wig, God rest her, a wonderful woman. Not being able to hear the Shinners voice on TV or radio and watching them talk while an actor spoke the words was strange. The Gibralter shootings, the whole shoot to kill issue, the Enniskillen slaughter, Greysteel, Jerry McCabe, Tim Parry, Manchester, London, Belfast bombings. That funeral and the two corporals horrific murder or the lunatic Michael Stone lobbing grenades in a grave yard. Gordon Wilson on the Late Late and the parents of Tim Parry. They had/have strength and depths of forgivness most of us will never know or possess.

    When I think back about it probably one of the main thing that I remember was the RTE nightly news from that era reporting the latest "Tit for Tat" killing. As a young fella the term "Tit for Tat" always struck me as weird. More so as a way to describe the indiscriminate slaughtering that went on because of your Religion at the time. And it was every single night for a long time, those reports came about innocent Joe Bloggs types just going to work or out for a pint getting shot or blown to bits. It was absolute fúcking madness when I think about it now but back then it was normal.

    We have come a long way but have a way to go yet as can be seen by the views of some people on this thread, Boards.ie and life in general. There are still a lot of people out there with very twisted views. Apologist, sycophantic arseholes trying to defend the indefensable. They are a lingering unwanted memory of the troubles for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Never really had much first hand experience barring passing through checkpoints and my Dad on border duty. Would have been very aware of news reports, one of my first memories is hearing of Bobby Sands death. Eventually it had to take a major event to hit home how bad it was, Enniskillen, Shankhill, the Trick or Treat murders etc. etc. I really thought those few days after Gibraltar was the brink and it was going to end in all out civil war, thank God it didn't.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Witchie


    Unfortunately have too many memories of it all having returned to my border town in 1978.

    One of the nice ones, but one that opened my eyes to the humanity of the situation was Christmas day when I was about 6 or 7 years old going to my granny's in Tyrone. We were going through the check point in Aughnacloy and a solider, probably in his mid 20's leaned in the window to ask my brother and I what Santa had brought, chatted away to us for a few minutes and then gave us a bag of boiled sweets each. I remember being delighted but a while later down the road, my mum changed my view point forever by telling me that she thought by the look in the young soldiers eyes that he probably had some children at home in England missing him and he would have loved to have been giving them the sweets he gave us.

    I never looked at them as scary guys with guns again, just as people working in a crap job.

    Until I was about 11 I didnt get my dad to check under my bed and in the wardrobe for monsters, he had to check for IRA men! I was terrified that our house would be "hijacked" and used as a base for an attack as we were only 3 miles from NI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    I'd just arrived in Ireland in 1986 and decided to drive up North to visit a friend from Trinidad who was studying medicine at Queens. I vividly remember the checkpoint at the border and how young and nervous the soldiers seemed. Got lost on the M1 and hadn't a clue where we were until we ended up at the Divis Flats when we actually trying to find my friend's digs on the Lisburn Road.

    Those flats were a horrible looking place and even though I've since been in dangerous places around the world the memory of that day has always stayed with me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    The Hungerstrikes, 2 of the Hungerstrikers came from my home village.

    The bombing of our local RUC station. (which has now vanished from the village!)

    Countless stops by the Brits/RUC and being asked where I was coming from/Going to.

    Masked men coming to the front door with a bread crate, and asking my mum and dad by their first names for empty milk bottles (in the midst of a riot for petrol bombs)

    Police/Army landrovers entering my estate and being bombarded with anything the locals could get their hands on to throw at them on both the way in and out.

    Bomb hoaxes at school = us sent home early loads of times :D

    Telling the Brits your name in Irish, knowing full well you were required by law only to tell them your name, if they couldnt spell it... hard luck!

    Helicopters landing in our back fields and dropping troops off, and my Dad shouting abuse at them to get the fcuk off his land!

    Watching in awe at the street artists who use to turn up and draw murals on the side of houses.

    I could go on all day to be honest!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    One event that really sticks in my mind is the Holy Cross school dispute.

    I remember seeing on TV frightened girls walking to school being shielded by soldiers with protesters screaming abuse at them.

    Pretty disgusting scenes.


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  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My family shielded me from it very well thankfully.. My parents had no interest whatsoever even though we lived 20 minutes south of the border. My cousins were different.. Even at a young age, I hated when the room broke into IRA songs. I've always just hated it.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    mod

    Take the political analysis crap to another thread. Let's keep this one on topic or bans will follow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Explain to me the difference between them and those who won you your freedom them?

    I don't care any more. I used to enjoy trying to coutner all the hate-filled armchair drivel but now I'd rather listen to the interestiing stories that comprise the majority of the thread.

    Ciao.

    Edit: sorry Dr B. I posded that same time you did.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭Tiocfaidh Armani


    stovelid wrote: »
    I don't care any more. I used to enjoy trying to coutner all the hate-filled armchair drivel but now I'd rather listen to the interestiing stories that comprise the majority of the thread.

    Ciao.

    Edit: sorry Dr B. I posded that same time you did.

    Well you did comment, slán.
    Take the political analysis crap to another thread. Let's keep this one on topic or bans will follow.

    Noted:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Another memory I have is the riots in Dublin after Bobby sands died. There was a huge air of depression and doom hanging over the whole country.









    ps well maybe not in keithAFCs house :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭FinnLizzy


    An in-law of mine lived in Derry in the 80s. He got an unexpected visit from the Provos and they asked (I say asked, :rolleyes:) to use his house for a week or so. The reason they used his house was because one of the windows had a distant, but clear view of the bridge that the British Army used to enter the area.
    While they made bombs, they had enough time to evacuate had the Brits crossed the bridge.
    He had no sympathy for Sinn Fein afterwards.

    Our youth centre would go on cross border projects, but they were a tad redundant, seeing as the youth centres we were interacting with were of a Catholic persuasion, :rolleyes:.

    I remember a major bomb scare in Quinnsworth, Sligo around 97(?). Whole town on lockdown! After us coming back from a lovely day on the beach.

    My OH's mother is friends with John Hume's daughter. She says that they got a police escort to his house, and he was preparing for a meeting with Clinton.

    That's my two cents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,713 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    One event that really sticks in my mind is the Holy Cross school dispute.

    I remember seeing on TV frightened girls walking to school being shielded by soldiers with protesters screaming abuse at them.

    Pretty disgusting scenes.

    Thats the one I was going to post about. Probably one of the more disturbing things I've seen in recent times up there. People throwing balloons of piss at kids going to school, horrendous stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,031 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I was only in 4th class at time, but I remember the hatred of the Northern Ireland v Republic game in 1993

    That was really the first time I got to actually realise how much of a divide there was between both.

    Warrington bomb was another that stuck out, but that was a time when I did not really understand what all the fuss was about.

    Now know some people from North on both divides and thankfully times have moved on and hopefully we never see it again.

    EVENFLOW



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I remember when Ross McWhirter was murdered, it seemed to me that people were being killed left right and centre at the time and I was convinced that my Dad was going to be shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    hmmm wrote: »
    I remember seeing Gordon Wilson interviewed. It wasn't my earliest memory, but it was the first time I felt really affected and angry.




    I remember as a very young child going on holidays on the boat to England, and my mother telling me to keep quiet or the English special branch will ask us to take everything out of the car (which took ages to pack in the first place :) ).

    With 10 + whippersnappers, none of whom are "dressed like Protestants", in the back of the characteristically untidy average "Catholic" car, it's not like any of us would need to pronounce our haitches before we've been ethnically profiled. :)


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  • Posts: 758 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Being born in the late eighties, I have no memory of the Troubles - beyond remembering the words 'ceasefire' and 'IRA' on the news during the first years of my life - and for that, I am glad. What a pathetic and shameful period in our history. For all our achievements and claims to greatness, humans are still just primal animals who commit the most horrific acts against one another: far worse than anything else in nature. What could be endless compassion towards one another is held back by the most disgusting products of our evolution: religion; nationalism; greed; the very things which are responsible for again and again pushing back the date on which humanity is united in world peace and respect for the planet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Dionysus wrote: »
    With 10 + whippersnappers, none of whom are "dressed like Protestants", in the back of the characteristically untidy average "Catholic" car, it's not like any of us would need to pronounce our haitches before we've been ethnically profiled. :)

    Not dressed like a protestant in a catholic car?

    How the **** does that work then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭Catxscotch


    I grew up on the border, i remember out playing with my dog when about 10 RUC soldiers jumped out of the hedge pointing guns at me. I was only about 6/7. As we were south of the border, they had no right to be there. I ran screaming down the lane and my dad came running up and told them to get the f$ck out of there. When I think of it now its lucky they didnt shoot him for that!!
    My mother was also in the pub in Monaghan the day of the bombings. She told me she went running home because she wanted to watch some programme on the tv, the bomb went off about 10mins later. Only for that programme, I wouldn't be here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus



    Not dressed like a protestant in a catholic car?

    How the **** does that work then?

    Get over it, Frederick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Dionysus wrote: »
    Get over it, Frederick.

    Jesus, you were actually serious weren't you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Jesus, you were actually serious weren't you?

    Not as serious as that chip on your shoulder. Build a bridge and get over it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Dionysus wrote: »
    Not as serious as that chip on your shoulder. Build a bridge and get over it.

    Hi Mr Pot, meet Mr Kettle....

    Anyway, back on topic.

    Another memory I have is of a French exchange student we had.

    His group were visiting London on the day of the Hyde and Regents park bombs.

    My mother took several frantic calls from his mum while they were trying to establish that they were ok. They heard the first explosion and saw the blue lights etc, but were otherwise ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I felt genuinely horrified and sickened the day of the bomb in Omagh. I remember the girl I was seeing asking 'what's wrong with you'?.

    To her the North may as well have been in Patagonia but even though our family had left the North for Cork City a good few years earlier my connection still felt strong (and always will I reckon).

    We were supposed to be going out that night but I just went to my parents house for the evening because I knew I wouldn't have been able to enjoy myself and it wouldn't have felt right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    I felt genuinely horrified and sickened the day of the bomb in Omagh. I remember the girl I was seeing asking 'what's wrong with you'?.

    To her the North may as well have been in Patagonia but even though our family had left the North for Cork City a good few years earlier my connection still felt strong (and always will I reckon).

    We were supposed to be going out that night but I just went to my parents house for the evening because I knew I wouldn't have been able to enjoy myself and it wouldn't have felt right.

    Such needless suffering the Omagh bombing caused. It's enough to make you a misanthrope. :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Even at a young age, I hated when the room broke into IRA songs. I've always just hated it.

    I hate that **** too. My parents wouldn't have stood for it either tbh.
    Not dressed like a protestant in a catholic car?

    How the **** does that work then?

    I'll gladly be corrected if I'm wrong but us NI Catholics are often, or used to be IIRC, thought of as being scruffy by the other crowd.

    Even though the the other crowd's eyes are ever-so-slightly closer together so maybe their eyesight isn't that good. :p

    /prejudices and factual inaccuracies. :pac:


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