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  • 18-12-2011 03:58PM
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    you could own anything once your chief super gives yet the go ahead and you have a good enough reason. The largest unrestricted caliber is .308 and we call them firearms not weapons so people dont get any wrong ideas and you Cant licence a weapon in Ireland just a sporting firearm. Are you looking to get a rifle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭Mr.Flibble


    you could own anything once your chief super gives yet the go ahead

    This is substantially true - there is no simple overall limit.

    The largest unrestricted caliber is .308

    This isn't; there are tens of thousands of unrestricted shotguns well in excess of .308


    It would help if you said why you are asking this question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    confident he was talking about rifle calibers. Id also be interested to know why!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭doyle61


    To me caliber indicates bullet size so to me Kildare is right, 308 is the largest unrestricted size bullet you can get in this country. I always measured shotgun size in gauge eg16gauge etc
    Why you want to know anyway op??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    Also calibre doesn't equal muzzle energy ,a lever action in .38 special is larger in calibre then a .243 , but does not have anything the muzzle energy. if you mean what is the most powerful rifle you can licence In ireland ?

    The most powerful rifles i have heard of in ireland are heavy game rifles kept for shooting in africa, not very suitable for long range shooting though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭doyle61


    Are large game rifles unrestricted or restricted on Ireland??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    doyle61 wrote: »
    Are large game rifles unrestricted or restricted on Ireland??

    Restricted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    doyle61 wrote: »
    Are large game rifles unrestricted or restricted on Ireland??

    The minimum rifle calibre permitted to be used on game in much of Southern Africa in .375 Holland & Holland or American or Metric equivalent in both calibre and muzzle energy combined.

    The more common calibres around the .300" mark encountered in Europe/RoI are classed as 'pot-meat' guns' only, suitable for dik-dik and small game. It's true to say that animal life in Africa tends to be a lot more robust than it is in Europe.

    So you can see that owning an African-calibre rifle in Ireland is somewhat rare.

    There are, I'm told, a few .338Lapua Magnums rifles around the country, although how the silver-tongued owners pursuaded their local super that such a calibre was ideally suited to their need must forever be a secret between them and and their local Super.

    tac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    tac foley wrote: »
    The minimum rifle calibre permitted to be used on game in much of Southern Africa in .375 Holland & Holland or American or Metric equivalent in both calibre and muzzle energy combined.

    The more common calibres around the .300" mark encountered in Europe/RoI are classed as 'pot-meat' guns' only, suitable for dik-dik and small game. It's true to say that animal life in Africa tends to be a lot more robust than it is in Europe.

    So you can see that owning an African-calibre rifle in Ireland is somewhat rare.

    There are, I'm told, a few .338Lapua Magnums rifles around the country, although how the silver-tongued owners pursuaded their local super that such a calibre was ideally suited to their need must forever be a secret between them and and their local Super.

    tac

    They aren't as rare as you'd imagine tac , i've seen at least half a dozen .375's , a .416 , and a .470, and also a good few german 9.3 mm rifles.
    I would think a good few of these rifles were bought during the celtic tiger days when money was burning holes in people pockets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    I stand corrected.

    ...so how many of these guns actually went to Africa, I wonder, or anyplace else that they might be used as they are intended.

    Are you saying that if you had a bunch of money, then you could have whatever you wanted?

    tac


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    tac foley wrote: »
    I stand corrected.

    ...so how many of these guns actually went to Africa, I wonder, or anyplace else that they might be used as they are intended.

    Are you saying that if you had a bunch of money, then you could have whatever you wanted?

    tac

    Thats pretty much what was going on before mcdowell / ahern stopped the music, as regards the use , i know some bought the .375's as pig guns , seem a bit heavy to me but the germans do use the 9mm and 9.3 mm rifles for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Dublin Zoo have a .375 H&H AFAIK.
    Amongst other smaller calibres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭Hibrion


    375 is a pretty versatile gun and can be loaded to suit a variety of needs. I wouldn't mind one in a nice side by side if it wasn't for the price, problems in licensing and not being able to re-load :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Dublin Zoo have a .375 H&H AFAIK.
    Amongst other smaller calibres.

    Wow!! how much would you have to pay to go hunting there, I wonder?

    Is there a special ticket for groups?

    tac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Spunk84


    tac foley wrote: »
    Wow!! how much would you have to pay to go hunting there, I wonder?

    Is there a special ticket for groups?

    tac

    about Threefiddy;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    tac foley wrote: »
    Wow!! how much would you have to pay to go hunting there, I wonder?

    Is there a special ticket for groups?

    tac

    I was just pointing out that they have one licensed.

    With Mick Noonan holding the purse strings, I'd say anythings possible though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    I was just pointing out that they have one licensed.

    With Mick Noonan holding the purse strings, I'd say anythings possible though

    Cackle.

    tac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    I was just pointing out that they have one licensed.

    With Mick Noonan holding the purse strings, I'd say anythings possible though

    I heard a story that archbishop mcquaid shot a monkey there years ago !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Sure you're not mixing the story up with Bishop Brennan getting a kick up the a$$?

    tac


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