Septic Tank Charge Protest in Galway

What a load of ****

Should this really be in the Dublin forum?

Clareboy wrote: »

What's this septic tank charge protest in Galway all about? The one off house builders have destroyed our countryside and poisoned our ground water and now they are resisting septic tank inspections. If they have nothing to hide, then what is their problem? Are they actually suggesting that someone who can afford to build a one off house cannot afford €50 for a tank inspection.

Destroyed our countryside how exactly? I live in the country, and the two houses that went up beside me over the last few years have had no effect on our groundwater. What exactly do you mean "nothing to hide"? Hypothetically speaking, if I'm building a septic tank, it has to be on my property, quite possibly under my lawn. So why would I build a sub-standard septic tank?

Over the last 23 years there have never had any problems what-so-ever with the septic tank at home. But now some bright spark, who probably wouldn't know a septic tank if he fell into it, has decided that all the septic tanks in the country are fatally flawed and need inspection. And if this inspector deems that for whatever reason someone's septic tank isn't up to scratch they could have to fork out anything between €700 and €15,000 to fix it.

Now, I don't know about you, but I don't have several grand floating around the place to upgrade a perfectly operational septic tank. To the best of my knowledge, that's what all the objections are over.

Kev.OC wrote: »

Destroyed our countryside how exactly? I live in the country, and the two houses that went up beside me over the last few years have had no effect on our groundwater. What exactly do you mean "nothing to hide"? Hypothetically speaking, if I'm building a septic tank, it has to be on my property, quite possibly under my lawn. So why would I build a sub-standard septic tank?

Over the last 23 years there have never had any problems what-so-ever with the septic tank at home. But now some bright spark, who probably wouldn't know a septic tank if he fell into it, has decided that all the septic tanks in the country are fatally flawed and need inspection. And if this inspector deems that for whatever reason someone's septic tank isn't up to scratch they could have to fork out anything between €700 and €15,000 to fix it.

Now, I don't know about you, but I don't have several grand floating around the place to upgrade a perfectly operational septic tank. To the best of my knowledge, that's what all the objections are over.

I also object to paying €50 to some clipboard wielding tosspot ......in fact I think he should have to pay me a toll to enter my property which I will no doubt be forced to pay €100 for the privilege of owning

I'm setting up my toll booth now........mutherfcukers!

starbelgrade wrote: »

The problem with septic tanks & other waste water treatment systems is that if they aren't designed to suit the ground conditions, aren't properly installed and aren't properly maintained, then there are a myriad of problems that they can cause, beyond what would normally be considered by the owners as a problem, such as leaking.

such as?

if they don't leak and have not leaked in decades and are not likely to leak...then what other problems are there......would the majority of problems not be down to pollutants leaking into the local environment?

gases escaping posing a health risk.......would there not be a fairly pungent odour

starbelgrade wrote: »

It's shit, but someone has to deal with it.

nice

Clareboy wrote: »

What's this septic tank charge protest in Galway all about? The one off house builders have destroyed our countryside and poisoned our ground water and now they are resisting septic tank inspections. If they have nothing to hide, then what is their problem? Are they actually suggesting that someone who can afford to build a one off house cannot afford €50 for a tank inspection.

1, the population of ireland used to be 8million, even with more per house i think you will find there used to be a lot more houses in rural ireland
2, planning restrictions mean you must come from the area, work or provide a service located in that area if you want to build, isnt the idea to get people out of cars?
3, a septic tank is one of the most efficent methods for clensing waste but cost the builder thousands to install which a city dweller doesnt have to pay. the type is decided by a ground test which also must be paid for
4, the percolation area is on their land if something is wrong the owner will notice fairly fast and it would be in their own interest to fix it, if a neighbour is affected they can go to the council/epa for a quick legally enforceable remedy
5, the fee is to register the tank. the council has every planning in history and therefore an exsiting list of tanks...(and knows where its sewer pipes cover)
6, ireland is getting fined like hell on waste treatment because the town supplies are not being fully treated (if at all). so i think you will find it is the urban dweller poisining our water:rolleyes:

amacca wrote: »

gases escaping posing a health risk.......would there not be a fairly pungent odour

a working tank has no oder.

the issue i see here is from a wider construction point of view although i dont really see it brought up. to date all construction is locked into the regulations of the time of construction. for example a set of stairs may be more than 16 risers long, untouched in a renovation it is fine, but if it is worked on a landing would have to be put in place so there is no more than 16 at a time. these tanks are going to be judged on modern standards ignoring the traditional system, then should everything else. should all the georgian houses in dublin have to meet modern insulation standards are the extra cost of heating them causes pollution?

galwayrush wrote: »

Yawn.......
No, they are protesting because the inspection will probably lead to replacing their tanks , which will be costly.
I got mine tested by an engineer, it's working perfectly, so absolutelyno pollution here.
But he informed me that this new inspection will probably fail it for no reason...

would it be wise to get an inspection like this carried out so you could have some ground to stand on if they did require tens of thousands spent on a retrofit?

overshoot wrote: »

1, the population of ireland used to be 8million, even with more per house i think you will find there used to be a lot more houses in rural ireland

now where in blue blazes did all that sh1t go?

overshoot wrote: »

5, the fee is to register the tank. the council has every planning in history and therefore an exsiting list of tanks...(and knows where its sewer pipes cover)

this is what amuses me with a lot of this nonsense......govenrment departments continually asking you details they should already fcukin know...or do already know

overshoot wrote: »

ireland is getting fined like hell on waste treatment because the town supplies are not being fully treated (if at all). so i think you will find it is the urban dweller poisining our water:rolleyes:

shhhh...you're making sense, that's not allowed

starbelgrade wrote: »

There's a big difference between a working septic tank & percolation area and a properly designed one and the only way of telling the difference properly is to send off soil samples to a lab for analysis.

An inspection of the tank tells you nothing other than how well your tank is working. Your engineer should really know that.

He did test the soil. My soil was a little low on the PH scale for the area, a little research found out that the guy who was farming it before hand used too much lime on the land .