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Christopher Hitchens has died

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Vomit


    amacachi wrote: »
    But why would one say "Atheist" or "Atheism" was one's religion anyway? It makes no sense.

    Well, the prospect of people filling out the word 'atheist' in the census form was such a worry, that Atheist Ireland ran a campaign to convince people to tick 'no religion' instead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Vomit wrote: »
    Well, the prospect of people filling out the word 'atheist' in the census form was such a worry, that Atheist Ireland ran a campaign to convince people to tick 'no religion' instead.

    Yup, so that people like you didn't further dilute further the number of irreligious people in the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    I never liked his work. He was a sensationalist who liked to blur the lines between sensationalism and rational thought in his work; comparable to Richard Dawkins, Michael Moore, or perhaps a British tabloid editor.

    The man did what all good journalists do, he reflected the popular opinion of his fans (not the whole world). That is not a particularly heroic venture,nor in itself characteristic of a great thinker, which Hitchens wasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭Loomis


    Vomit wrote: »
    Ok, 'filled out' the word 'atheist'.... sheesh. Won any real debates lately?

    The options were:
    1. Roman Catholic
    2. Church of Ireland
    3. Islam
    4. Presbyterian
    5. Orthodox
    6. Other, write in your RELIGION
    7. No religion.

    Since atheism isn't a religion, you wouldn't have filled it in anywhere on the form. You would choose No Religion anyway. So ye, you have no point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    Vomit wrote: »
    amacachi wrote: »
    But why would one say "Atheist" or "Atheism" was one's religion anyway? It makes no sense.

    Well, the prospect of people filling out the word 'atheist' in the census form was such a worry, that Atheist Ireland ran a campaign to convince people to tick 'no religion' instead.
    The only option a Atheist had was the NO RELIGION box atheism is not a religion so you can't put it in as another :( that would be an EPIC FAIL


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭Nulty


    Google it and find out.

    Yeah type your question into a post on boards, wait for a reply, then go to google and type your question in word for word, first result is a link to your own question on boards, click link and hope someone has answered it by the time you get back there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Vomit


    You only have to search these very forums to find threads about it, full of people asking, "Is it better to put atheist (in the 'other' section'), or no religion?"

    I put no religion, because I'm not part of this latest incarnation of groupthink, and I'm not an idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    later10 wrote: »
    I never liked his work. He was a sensationalist who liked to blur the lines between sensationalism and rational thought in his work; comparable to Richard Dawkins, Michael Moore, or perhaps a British tabloid editor.

    The man did what all good journalists do, he reflected the popular opinion of his fans (not the whole world). That is not a particularly heroic venture,nor in itself characteristic of a great thinker, which Hitchens wasn't.

    I tend to agree. He was undoubtedly intelligent and witty and could hold his own in a debate but I find most of the popular atheist writers are somewhat sensationalist.

    In saying that I had great respect for him.

    RIP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Vomit wrote: »
    You only have to search these very forums to find threads about it, full of people asking, "Is it better to put atheist (in the 'other' section'), or no religion?"

    I put no religion, because I'm not part of this latest incarnation of groupthink, and I'm not an idiot.

    But you said that part of the reason you ticked "No Religion" was because you don't want to be associated with "New" Atheists but now it's because you're too smart to have filled in the form incorrectly even though it's what you would've done only for us group-thinkers ruining the label for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    amacachi wrote: »
    But why would one say "Atheist" or "Atheism" was one's religion anyway? It makes no sense.

    Maybe his favourite colour is transparent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Seachmall wrote: »
    I tend to agree. He was undoubtedly intelligent and witty and could hold his own in a debate but I find most of the popular atheist writers are somewhat sensationalist.

    In saying that I had great respect for him.

    RIP

    Whereas most of the popular religious writers stick strictly to the facts :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Whereas most of the popular religious writers stick strictly to the facts :rolleyes:

    Care to write a response that is in someway relevant to my comment or will you stick with this one?

    Because you can edit or delete it should realize how non-sequitur it is, I won't mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    He could be in heaven right now thinking well, foooook me!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Care to write a response that is in someway relevant to my comment or will you stick with this one?

    Because you can edit or delete it should realize how non-sequitur it is, I won't mind.

    Your very kind but I'm very happy with my response, feel free to edit/delete yours as you see fit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    He could be in heaven right now thinking well, foooook me!!!!

    If he made it to heaven then just about every religion I've heard about got it very wrong and there'll be some disappointed Mormons when they die.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭D


    "...I always think it's a sign of victory when they move on to the ad hominem."
    Christopher Hitchens.

    A great quote, I think I'll add that to my sig.


  • Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    D wrote: »
    "...I always think it's a sign of victory when they move on to the ad hominem."
    Christopher Hitchens.

    A great quote, I think I'll add that to my sig.

    Heh, love how this has turned into the usual bickering-fest you get with atheist arguers.

    I suppose the question I asked was did the kind of people who spend a lot of their time on boards.ie discussing their atheism consider Hitchens a role model? The length of & arguments on this thread suggest so. Not saying it's right or wrong, only very telling about the demographic of boards.ie.

    I'm sure Mr. Hitchens was a man of great integrity, loved by his family & well respected in his field. I sympathise with his fans and send my sincerest condolences to his family, friends & colleagues.

    God/universe/devil/bob/booby/nelly/bigskything/whatever rest him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭Reamer Fanny


    bmbm wrote: »
    http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2011/12/In-Memoriam-Christopher-Hitchens-19492011


    Christopher Hitchens—the incomparable critic, masterful rhetorician, fiery wit, and fearless bon vivant—died today at the age of 62. Hitchens was diagnosed with esophageal cancer in the spring of 2010, just after the publication of his memoir, Hitch-22, and began chemotherapy soon after. His matchless prose has appeared in Vanity Fair since 1992, when he was named contributing editor.
    “Cancer victimhood contains a permanent temptation to be self-centered and even solipsistic,” Hitchens wrote nearly a year ago in Vanity Fair, but his own final labors were anything but: in the last 12 months, he produced for this magazine a piece on U.S.-Pakistani relations in the wake of Osama bin Laden’s death, a portrait of Joan Didion, an essay on the Private Eye retrospective at the Victoria and Albert Museum, a prediction about the future of democracy in Egypt, a meditation on the legacy of progressivism in Wisconsin, and a series of frank, graceful, and exquisitely written essays in which he chronicled the physical and spiritual effects of his disease. At the end, Hitchens was more engaged, relentless, hilarious, observant, and intelligent than just about everyone else—just as he had been for the last four decades.
    “My chief consolation in this year of living dyingly has been the presence of friends,” he wrote in the June 2011 issue. He died in their presence, too, at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas. May his 62 years of living, well, so livingly console the many of us who will miss him dearly.

    Who? Seriously I never heard of him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    RIP to a good mind and a British patriot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    RIP to a good mind and a British patriot.

    And a strong supporter of a United Ireland, like any real British patriot should be


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    And a strong supporter of a United Ireland, like any real British patriot should be
    :pac:

    He was entitled to his political views. Still a good British person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭AnnyHallsal


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    :pac:

    He was entitled to his political views. Still a good British person.

    I believe Anglo-American was the term he preferred.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Reverse Keith Reverse !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    justryan wrote: »
    Who? Seriously I never heard of him

    Why bother posting then? Anyone interested in intellectual debate, world politics and atheism would have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Morlar wrote: »
    Reverse Keith Reverse !
    Oh the wheel chair Morlar... nuns.. reverse!:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    He could be in heaven right now thinking well, foooook me!!!!
    Or at the gates of heaven trotting out the old "don't you know who I am?" line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    See you in heaven buddy. :pac:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Ironically I wish an afterlife did exist for people like him.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Piece coming up shortly about him on PM which is on Radio 4 now.


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