Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 - Mod Note 4153

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@Richard_Buxton_ Richard Buxton
#CFC statement on Torres exit reports: “The story is total nonsense. Fernando is in the long-term plans at Chelsea.” (via @BluesChronicle)

FA Cup third round meeting with Oldham will take place on Friday, January 6. Kick-off at Anfield is scheduled for 8.00pm

Hopefully we'll see some of the young fellas given a run - Coady, Robinson, Coates etc.

ASOT wrote: »

Maybe suarez was just asking evra did he want an ice pop ?

He should nibble on one of them during the hearing.

Revolution9 wrote: »

Is there any indication as to how many days the Suarez hearing will take?

Main body of evidence heard tomorrow, could be a decision on Friday.

niallo27 wrote: »

Well keane was never world class in the first place and spurs were forced into the transfer a bit with injuries, I'm not saying your wrong about Torres but I might be willing to take a chance on him, his attitude would have to change alright though.

I wouldn't take a chance on him, it's the equivalent of when Madrid were selling Owen. We were lucky Newcastle bought him ahead of us.

And the other thing is, at the time it was said that there was a bust up between him and Kenny. Kenny supposedly told Torres a few home truths because he felt he was too big for his boots. I can't see either party being up for it, especially given what was written about Torres' relationship with the rest of the squad not being what you might have thought it was too.



And let's not forget we won nothing while he was at his best, what makes you think he'll make any difference now ?

Damien Comolli Not @Damiens_Comolli
I have inside info that the three man panel for Suarez's hearing is made up of David Gill, and two Star Wars Lego figures. #lfc #suarez

willmunny1990 wrote: »

Torres will either come good for Chelsea or he wont that's it. I don't think this possible move back to Liverpool is ever going to happen, Liverpool aren't in the CL which is a sticky point and his wages would take a hit.

I think its astonishing some people think he is playing poorly because he misses Liverpool, or is heartbroken over leaving, or his head is simply not at Chelsea, that's just nonsense. He lost a yard of pace due to an accumulation of injuries and his confidence is shot. He would be playing just as bad if he were still at Liverpool. He was already in poor form when we bought him off Liverpool.

And you know all this to be fact then do you? Would you care to share your source? Oh and while I have you, Oh mighty one, to what would you attribute a certain Andy Carroll's dip in form since his move from his beloved Newcastle to us?

SlickRic wrote: »

bring me Torres back in a heartbeat for £20m.

i'm telling you, his heart is still at the club, you'd see a different player than the one you see at Chelsea, and he, despite his recent form, is a predatory finisher when he's in the mood.

he left because of the previous ownership. he was promised investment, he didn't get it. he was then asked by Purslow et al to stay at the club, put up with it, until it was sold, not because he was part of the long term future of the club. no, we didn't try to convince him to stay like that. instead, we asked him to stay until January so that the club could be sold at a higher price. he was treated as an asset. that, on top of the broken promises, meant he just didn't see a light at the end of the tunnel. and he only had a certain amount of time at the top.

people talk about his first interview with Chelsea as if it was a dig at us.

1) if it was a dig at anyone, it was the owners;
2 he has to say he's now arrived at a big club.

now, it could have been worded better, but as Al said, i reckon he tried to justify it in his head.

as i say, i'd take him back instantly, and bite your hand off, for 20m.

plus, that would mean Andy Carroll, technically, would only have cost £5m.

:D:pac:

IF Torres were to come back, i feel wages would have very little to do with it from his point of view. He looks like a man who just wants to be held...wants to be loved ( by 40,000 scousers -depending on the size of the away crowd). My gut feeling is i'd absolutely love him back, a couple of goals and suddenly we'd see that same old grin, the confidence bursting through his veins.
Someone posted above why take him back as we won feck all with him in the side anyway..but look at the football we are playing now, he would fit right in straight away, and Kenny would definitely be the man to manage him (shudder when i think of him playing under woy).
Gamble 35 on the potential of Carroll, gamble 20 on the potential of Henderson... believe me this would be a 20 mil gamble worth taking. His game is based on confidence, not just fitness and speed, if you look at his goals many are simple awesome natural finishing ability.
He will do little or nothing at Chelsea over the next couple of years anyway... 20 million could be the difference between Champions League money which would be even greater in the long run, besides, those who argue of a comeback limiting Caroll's potential surely know we need another striker regardless. When i think of mediocre Darren Bent joining us i just sigh.
It makes sense for us. It makes sense for him. I know it probably won't happen, but i'd love it.

I feel this needs to be posted:

ilovelamp2000 wrote: »

He's spot on.

Andy Carroll - a bad thigh injury, a poor work ethic and bad habits.

Ok. And to what would you attribute this sudden problem of having a poor work ethic? He had it at Newcastle. What bad habits? Were they picked up at newcastle or did he develope them after his move to Liverpool? Where would he pick up bad habits at our club if that's your answer?