Japan admits disaster funds to be used for whaling

RichieC · 12-12-2011 06:37PM #1

Well this makes me a little bit angry, didn't our government offer money to help Japan out? afaik it was rejected and thank fk for that... absolute disgrace.

they will be spending an extra 26 million(A$) of Japan relief money on beefing up the security on their (illegal) whaling operations...

Now I'm not a peta or green peace member but there's something about killing whales that galls the skin right off of me..

linkie: http://www.news.com.au/world/japan-confirms-greenpeace-whaling-charge/story-e6frfkyi-1226216712737?sv=dec710e3bdd624baeb28b70e2214b10b

:mad:

Welruc · 12-12-2011 07:07PM

RichieC wrote: »

they will be spending an extra 26 million(A$) of Japan relief money on beefing up the security on their (illegal) whaling operations...

Its not illegal, and not only Japan, as far as i know whaling is carried out in a number of countries, including the U.S.A., Russia and Norway

biko · 12-12-2011 07:13PM

CVPL -> AH

Redzer7 · 12-12-2011 07:21PM

I've met some whales in my life, by god they we're huge.
Pity these one's could talk.

RichieC · 12-12-2011 07:22PM

deuceswild wrote: »

Its not illegal, and not only Japan, as far as i know whaling is carried out in a number of countries, including the U.S.A., Russia and Norway

It is illegal when they hunt in protected waters (Southern Ocean Whaling Sanctuary). which they do.

af_thefragile · 12-12-2011 08:00PM

It wouldn't matter if whales were reared like cattle and hunting them for food wouldn't have much effect on their numbers.

But unfortunately whales are quickly being hunted out of existence and its always sad when people continue killing endangered animals with little regards that soon it'll become an extinct species unless they stop their ways.

Humans have driven animals to extinction in the past and are still doing it today.

eleven1 · 12-12-2011 08:06PM

RichieC wrote: »

Well this makes me a little bit angry, didn't our government offer money to help Japan out? afaik it was rejected and thank fk for that... absolute disgrace.

they will be spending an extra 26 million(A$) of Japan relief money on beefing up the security on their (illegal) whaling operations...

Now I'm not a peta or green peace member but there's something about killing whales that galls the skin right off of me..

linkie: http://www.news.com.au/world/japan-confirms-greenpeace-whaling-charge/story-e6frfkyi-1226216712737?sv=dec710e3bdd624baeb28b70e2214b10b

:mad:

(posted to wrong forum, can this be moved to AA proper please?)

i agree with you , it is very immoral . they over do it , and even in international waters, which is a breach of international laws and could lead to endangering the specie . and is not the priority here to get the radiation problems fixed first, then eat sushi afterwards .

Ghandee · 12-12-2011 08:15PM

Where do the Japanese take the dead whales they've caught, to weigh them?

the whale weigh station!

ShooterSF · 12-12-2011 08:24PM

RichieC wrote: »

It is illegal when they hunt in protected waters (Southern Ocean Whaling Sanctuary). which they do.

My understanding is that they are using the money to beef up security for the hunting they are doing legally that is attacked (illegally) by greenpeace. Stopping them hunting protected waters is something that should be enforced but likewise greenpeace's and the likes attacks on legal whaling should be stopped too.

RichieC · 12-12-2011 08:37PM

ShooterSF wrote: »

My understanding is that they are using the money to beef up security for the hunting they are doing legally that is attacked (illegally) by greenpeace. Stopping them hunting protected waters is something that should be enforced but likewise greenpeace's and the likes attacks on legal whaling should be stopped too.

with money the world sent after a natural disaster. yep.

More power to Greenpeace I say. hope they find the funding to match the japanese. doubt they will but will no less harry the japanese and annoy them.

zenno · 12-12-2011 08:45PM

ShooterSF wrote: »

My understanding is that they are using the money to beef up security for the hunting they are doing legally that is attacked (illegally) by greenpeace. Stopping them hunting protected waters is something that should be enforced but likewise greenpeace's and the likes attacks on legal whaling should be stopped too.

they are supposed to be hunting whales for scientific research but we all know this is a cover for illegal whaling. the sea shepherd stopped the nisshin maru whaling fleet last year they will probably stop the whaling again this year.

goose2005 · 12-12-2011 08:46PM

From Herrr's heart I stab at thee!

(sorry)

vicwatson · 12-12-2011 08:48PM

deuceswild wrote: »

Its not illegal, and not only Japan, as far as i know whaling is carried out in a number of countries, including the U.S.A., Russia and Norway

It is illegal but they get around it by saying the catch is for "scientific purposes" - yet it ends up being sold in restaurants for exhorbitant money.

USA and Russia don't "whale" per se, Japan, Iceland and Norway are the main perpetrators.

daz801 · 12-12-2011 08:54PM

Damn Japs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGepBtBCuTY

Deus Ex Machina · 12-12-2011 08:55PM

It sounds like a case of *toot toot* nuke them whales!!!

loveisdivine · 12-12-2011 09:21PM

I just want to point out that it is not Greenpeace that travel to the southern ocean sanctuary to defend the whales. It is Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. Greenpeace haven't sent a ship to Antarctica for years. They prefer to sit in offices and email people.

It's a disgrace that aid money is being used for whaling.

Do we learn nothing from the past? We virtually wiped out whales once already, do we really need to do it again?

Japan claims to be using the whales for research, as it is illegal to hunt them for purely commercial purposes.

So far they have reported in this research that whales eat krill/plankton and that you can't breed a whale with a cow.
Some really ground breaking findings I'm sure you'll agree!

Mountainlad · 12-12-2011 09:27PM

Why did they admit this?

I'm more concerned that they're taking money they need to counteract the disasters that have occurred in the country this year, and wasting it, putting millions of people at risk. It's awful treatment of the people of the country. I would not be happy if I was a Japanese citizen.

zenno · 12-12-2011 10:03PM

If the money is not going to the people that need it then funding should be stopped immediately.

mrmeindl · 12-12-2011 10:33PM

never mind

maglite · 12-12-2011 10:35PM

Aid money isn't being used for whaling. Its being used to fund the coastguard. This money is being put into a stimulus package providing employment to people in the Coastguard, who protect fishermen, which allows them to fish and bring back their catch.

This is then processed and sold locally and internationally which brings money to the coastal areas hit by the tsunami.

I don't see the problem.

Doc Ruby · 12-12-2011 10:39PM

maglite wrote: »

Aid money isn't being used for whaling. Its being used to fund the coastguard. This money is being put into a stimulus package providing employment to people in the Coastguard, who protect fishermen, which allows them to fish and bring back their catch.

This is then processed and sold locally and internationally which brings money to the coastal areas hit by the tsunami.

Thats all a cover story, they're stepping up the hunt for Godzirra since the earthquake.

*rimshot aaaand crickets

R P McMurphy · 12-12-2011 10:43PM

ShooterSF wrote: »

My understanding is that they are using the money to beef up security for the hunting they are doing legally that is attacked (illegally) by greenpeace. Stopping them hunting protected waters is something that should be enforced but likewise greenpeace's and the likes attacks on legal whaling should be stopped too.

When exactly was the last time Greenpeace attacked a whaling vessel or are you just full of lies

Mr Benevolent · 12-12-2011 11:02PM

We kill cod all the time and it's rapidly becoming endangered. There's no difference between killing whales and cod other than a misplaced sense of humanity.

Norwayviking · 12-12-2011 11:10PM

vicwatson wrote: »

It is illegal but they get around it by saying the catch is for "scientific purposes" - yet it ends up being sold in restaurants for exhorbitant money.

USA and Russia don't "whale" per se, Japan, Iceland and Norway are the main perpetrators.

You dont know much about whaling i take it.:rolleyes:
whats the difference from killing a whale and some cattle:mad:
Because the whale looks more "innocent":eek:
Should we stop hunting for deer-reindeer as well,cause they look like "rudolph".:rolleyes:

R P McMurphy · 12-12-2011 11:11PM

Confab wrote: »

We kill cod all the time and it's rapidly becoming endangered. There's no difference between killing whales and cod other than a misplaced sense of humanity.

Quite an in depth theory there, you must be a marine biologist, would you draw any other comparisons between cetaceans and other fish

R P McMurphy · 12-12-2011 11:13PM

Norwayviking wrote: »

You dont know much about whaling i take it.:rolleyes:
whats the difference from killing a whale and some cattle:mad:
Because the whale looks more "innocent":eek:
Should we stop hunting for deer-reindeer as well,cause they look like "rudolph".:rolleyes:

What because you can kill something you should kill it?

dxhound2005 · 12-12-2011 11:13PM

loveisdivine wrote: »

I just want to point out that it is not Greenpeace that travel to the southern ocean sanctuary to defend the whales. It is Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. Greenpeace haven't sent a ship to Antarctica for years. They prefer to sit in offices and email people.

It's a disgrace that aid money is being used for whaling.

Do we learn nothing from the past? We virtually wiped out whales once already, do we really need to do it again?

Japan claims to be using the whales for research, as it is illegal to hunt them for purely commercial purposes.

So far they have reported in this research that whales eat krill/plankton and that you can't breed a whale with a cow.
Some really ground breaking findings I'm sure you'll agree!

They are hardly likely to be wiped out if only 2000 a year are being killed. There are probably over a million Minke whales alone in the world. Like lots of other marine species they have been killed and eaten by humans for hundreds of years.

http://luna.pos.to/whale/sta_2009.html

Norwayviking · 12-12-2011 11:14PM

R P McMurphy wrote: »

What because you can kill something you should kill it?

What do you think made man walk on this planet and not starve to death:rolleyes:

R P McMurphy · 12-12-2011 11:17PM

Norwayviking wrote: »

What do you think made man walk on this planet and not starve to death:rolleyes:

What sort of an argument is that, complete with rolleyes and all - hard to counter that

Norwayviking · 12-12-2011 11:24PM

R P McMurphy wrote: »

What sort of an argument is that, complete with rolleyes and all - hard to counter that

What i am trying to say is hunting for whale have been going on since 3000BC.
And yes you have to kill something when you hunt,but i guess common sense isnt for you;)

laoch na mona · 12-12-2011 11:25PM

maglite wrote: »

Aid money isn't being used for whaling. Its being used to fund the coastguard. This money is being put into a stimulus package providing employment to people in the Coastguard, who protect fishermen, which allows them to fish and bring back their catch.

This is then processed and sold locally and internationally which brings money to the coastal areas hit by the tsunami.

I don't see the problem.

killing an endangered species not a problem?

Japan admits disaster funds to be used for whaling

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