Charity CEO's

Shane-KornSpace · 08-12-2011 11:51PM #1

Hi, everyone!
I have done a little bit of research online. What I have found is absolutely shocking (in my opinion)!
According to Examiner.ie, "Director of Trócaire Justin Kilcullen receives around €150,000. The chief executive of the Brothers of Charity, which provides respite care, is paid €113,000. The top man in St Michael’s House in Dublin, Paul Ledwidge is on €176,000"

Here is the source: http://www.examiner.ie/opinion/giving-to-charity-or-to-bloated-salaries-151611.html

Is it just me, or does this completely defeat the purpose of a charity? I feel this is absolutely outrageous! These CEO's are earning a massive amount of money and have the cheek to guilt us (the public) in to donating our hard earned cash even though alot of us earn only a fraction of these people's salaries.

Am I wrong to feel this way about these CHARITY owners?

hondasam · 08-12-2011 11:53PM

Do you expect them to work for free?

Guill · 08-12-2011 11:56PM

is paid €113,000

He must be really good!

starbelgrade · 08-12-2011 11:57PM

Charity is big business. It makes many people rich and helps keep the poor, poor.

It works on the assumption that people feel less guilty when they throw a crumbs at the needy. And as an assumption, that works extraodinarily well.

It is both immoral & hypocritical.

admiralofthefleet · 08-12-2011 11:57PM

this is a true story

a mate of mine is a builder, he recieves 5 pairs of safety shoes a year but only needs one. he brought the other 4 pairs to the charity shop to donate them but when he handed them in the girl behind the counter looked at one of the pairs and said 'they will do my fella' and put them under the counter

he left the shop fuming and swore he wouldnt donate to charity again; he hasnt

my point is, the people who need the help see only a tiny portion of a donation

Shane-KornSpace · 08-12-2011 11:59PM

hondasam wrote: »

Do you expect them to work for free?

Not at all, but remember, these men are working for a charity! They may be doing some good work, but these guy's earnings are ridiculous. As far as I'm conerned, their earnings completely defeat the purpose of a charity! If "only €2 could feed a starving child", imagine how many more children could be fed if Justin took a pay cut!

I he were to take a pay cut of (for arguements' sake) 50k, that would be able to feed 25,000 starving children (provided their €2 ad campaign is a reality).

Now, don't get me wrong, the CEO of St. Michael's House is looking over some good work, however, again, the improvements that could be made had he taken a pay cut would certainly have been noticeable and beneficial!

jam_mac_jam · 09-12-2011 12:00AM

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

this is a true story

a mate of mine is a builder, he recieves 5 pairs of safety shoes a year but only needs one. he brought the other 4 pairs to the charity shop to donate them but when he handed them in the girl behind the counter looked at one of the pairs and said 'they will do my fella' and put them under the counter

he left the shop fuming and swore he wouldnt donate to charity again; he hasnt

my point is, the people who need the help see only a tiny portion of a donation

Why doesnt he just tell whoever gives him the shoes that he doesnt need them? How do you know that she didnt donate money for the shoes?

johndaman66 · 09-12-2011 12:03AM

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

a mate of mine is a builder, he recieves 5 pairs of safety shoes a year but only needs one. he brought the other 4 pairs to the charity shop to donate them but when he handed them in the girl behind the counter looked at one of the pairs and said 'they will do my fella' and put them under the counter

I'm sure that sort of thing happens more often than most might imagine. She could have waited till your mate had left the shop. Not by any means condoning it but if she was going to do it anyway....

Oranage2 · 09-12-2011 12:03AM

CEO in getting paid shocker!!!!

gigino · 09-12-2011 12:03AM

The charity business is a great business to be in. There is one I know of here in Dublin where its published annual accouts shows its workers each earn an average of one and a half times the average industrial wage. No poverty there.

Solnskaya · 09-12-2011 12:05AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Charity is big business. It makes many people rich and helps keep the poor, poor.

It works on the assumption that people feel less guilty when they throw a crumbs at the needy. And as an assumption, that works extraodinarily well.

It is both immoral & hypocritical.

When my sister was 16 she worked for a major charity selling "Lines". She earned more in a week than my Dad did for his 9-5. I then gave up all faith in "Charidees".

gigino · 09-12-2011 12:06AM

Shane-KornSpace wrote: »

Hi, everyone!
I have done a little bit of research online. What I have found is absolutely shocking (in my opinion)!
According to Examiner.ie, "Director of Trócaire Justin Kilcullen receives around €150,000. The chief executive of the Brothers of Charity, which provides respite care, is paid €113,000. The top man in St Michael’s House in Dublin, Paul Ledwidge is on €176,000"

Those sort of salaries are more than most Prime Ministers in Europe earn. And them charity boyos think they deserve more money than Prime Ministers earn ?

Solnskaya · 09-12-2011 12:07AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

CEO in getting paid shocker!!!!

Err, yeah, "Charity CEO is massivly overpaid by money raised to give to the poor being syphoned off due to ridiculous overheads Shocker".

Oranage2 · 09-12-2011 12:08AM

Shane-KornSpace wrote: »

Hi, everyone!
I have done a little bit of research online. What I have found is absolutely shocking (in my opinion)!
According to Examiner.ie, "Director of Trócaire Justin Kilcullen receives around €150,000. The chief executive of the Brothers of Charity, which provides respite care, is paid €113,000. The top man in St Michael’s House in Dublin, Paul Ledwidge is on €176,000"

Here is the source: http://www.examiner.ie/opinion/giving-to-charity-or-to-bloated-salaries-151611.html

Is it just me, or does this completely defeat the purpose of a charity? I feel this is absolutely outrageous! These CEO's are earning a massive amount of money and have the cheek to guilt us (the public) in to donating our hard earned cash even though alot of us earn only a fraction of these people's salaries.

Am I wrong to feel this way about these CHARITY owners?

Can you justify what you earn?

Oranage2 · 09-12-2011 12:09AM

gigino wrote: »

Those sort of salaries are more than most Prime Ministers in Europe earn. And them charity boyos think they deserve more money than Prime Ministers earn ?

We're forced to pay government ministers - we don't have to give to charity -

Shane-KornSpace · 09-12-2011 12:10AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Can you justify what you earn?

If you must know, I work my arse off in Sales to provide a home for me and my heavily pregnant girlfriend. I am scraping by if you must know. But yes. I can. Me working my arse off 40 hours a week is going to keep a roof over our heads and provide food for my family.

Also, take in to consideration, the amount of money pai to advertise their ad campaigns on TV. Those ads cost well in to the thousands to air.

Celly Smunt · 09-12-2011 12:11AM

A charity CEO works no less than a CEO of private business,the wage is deserved imo.

Except for Mary Davis,she's just a bag.

Oranage2 · 09-12-2011 12:12AM

Shane-KornSpace wrote: »

If you must know, I work my arse off in Sales to provide a home for me and my heavily pregnant girlfriend. I am scraping by if you must know. But yes. I can. Me working my arse off 40 hours a week is going to keep a roof over our heads and provide food for my family.

40 hours a week annoying people more like!

gigino · 09-12-2011 12:13AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

We're forced to pay government ministers - we don't have to give to charity -

no, but they use emotional blackmail to entice money out of vulnerable people - eg think of the poor little children .

The charity workers children are looked after a lot better than the children of most people who give to charity anyway.

Solnskaya · 09-12-2011 12:14AM

pmcmahon wrote: »

A charity CEO works no less than a CEO of private business,the wage is deserved imo.

Except for Mary Davis,she's just a bag.

Feck off. Charity is supposed to be about selflessness and giving. Just, just, feck off.

gigino · 09-12-2011 12:15AM

pmcmahon wrote: »

A charity CEO works no less than a CEO of private business,the wage is deserved imo.

most people in private business do not earn 170,000 a year, or even half or quarter of that.

Celly Smunt · 09-12-2011 12:15AM

Solnskaya wrote: »

Feck off. Charity is supposed to be about selflessness and giving. Just, just, feck off.

then the charity would turn into a charity case.

Celly Smunt · 09-12-2011 12:16AM

gigino wrote: »

most people in private business do not earn 170,000 a year, or even half or quarter of that.

i was talking CEO's of business of like size to the charities.

Solnskaya · 09-12-2011 12:16AM

pmcmahon wrote: »

then the charity would turn into a charity case.

B0llox. Then the Charity would turn into an actual charity.

tigger123 · 09-12-2011 12:17AM

A charity is a company like any other, if you want the right people for the job you have to pay them the wages that will attract the right people to that position. If you don't, they'll simply go into other organisations where they can make that kind of money. Put simply, if you offer the job at 50k a year, that's the kind of candidate you'll get and, I'd wager, the charity isnt necessarily going to be run very well.

It's a free employment market. The fact that it's a charity, pragmatically, doesn't make a lick of difference.

BTW, I'm not saying it's morally right, I'm just saying that's the way I see it.

Shane-KornSpace · 09-12-2011 12:17AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

40 hours a week annoying people more like!

Way to look be an ignorant tool :rolleyes:

Out of 5 months of working in my current job, I have only had 1 complaint. I don't think I would call that "annoying people".
Don't get me wrong, working in sales was not my goal in life, but **** happens. So being mature, I got the first full time job I could find.

Now, back to the topic at hand. Charities.

D!armu!d · 09-12-2011 12:18AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

We're forced to pay government ministers - we don't have to give to charity -

We are forced - a lot of the funds charities get are paid directly by the government, and a lot of it never makes it to those in need.

Darkglasses · 09-12-2011 12:18AM

If its of any interest, I worked in an Oxfam shop for about a year and a half, never got paid a cent and nor did any of my co-workers, with the exception of the manager who took a quite small wage (nowhere near minimum wage for example). We did pay for any clothes or other items we bought, at roughly 75 percent of the price we'd put it out on the shelves with. Disgusted to hear its any other way in other shops. None of the people I worked with would even dream of taking money from the cause!

Celly Smunt · 09-12-2011 12:19AM

Solnskaya wrote: »

B0llox. Then the Charity would turn into an actual charity.

?
so you'd put in 50 hours or so a week and survive on nothing?

Shane-KornSpace · 09-12-2011 12:21AM

pmcmahon wrote: »

?
so you'd put in 50 hours or so a week and survive on nothing?

I'm not suggesting (at all) that these people work for free. But alot of people in this country are surviving on a fraction of what these people are making.

Sheeps · 09-12-2011 12:21AM

Shane-KornSpace wrote: »

Also, take in to consideration, the amount of money pai to advertise their ad campaigns on TV. Those ads cost well in to the thousands to air.

Yes, but think of the revenue they bring in.

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