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Man feeds live kitten to Burmese Python

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭Aseth


    pockets3d wrote: »
    Mice and rats are both common enough pets but no one would bate an eyelid at a python or cat killing them.

    I can say that after reading the story I wouldn't bat an eyelid to watch a video of this sick individual being eaten alive by his python! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Aseth wrote: »
    I can say that after reading the story I wouldn't bat an eyelid to watch a video of this sick individual being eaten alive by his python! :mad:

    And believe it or not boardsies, Aseth likes rats for pets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭KamiKazeKitten


    Sad, sick and warped, yes, but it's no different than what we eat. Cows don't generally enjoy being turned into steaks. Difference is, the kitten had the aww factor.
    The fact that it sounds like he got a kick out of it has me a bit worried, though.


    ... My username is making this post pretty ironic :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Cameron Poe


    I'd assume that anyone trying to justify this has never kept snakes or has never had a cat.

    The guy in this video is a prick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 catser6767


    This video is shocking and that is exactly what the maker wanted. By using a santa hat, and a cute kitten it was designed to shock and horrify people and he has achieved his goals. I think it is just another example of the depraved society we are living in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Sad, sick and warped, yes, but it's no different than what we eat. Cows don't generally enjoy being turned into steaks. Difference is, the kitten had the aww factor.
    The fact that it sounds like he got a kick out of it has me a bit worried, though.


    ... My username is making this post pretty ironic :D

    Cows are killed swiftly and humanely, they do not spend their last moments terrified, struggling to free themselves from an unknown vice. Cows are killed the way I would choose to die. There is a difference. That you cant see it, worries me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    A snake ate small animal. I am shocked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Aurum


    catser6767 wrote: »
    This video is shocking and that is exactly what the maker wanted. By using a santa hat, and a cute kitten it was designed to shock and horrify people and he has achieved his goals. I think it is just another example of the depraved society we are living in.
    Of course, because horrible people are a 20th century invention :rolleyes:. A certain percentage of humanity has always been horrible and cruel, it's just that the technological advances of the last fifty years means we're informed about the actions of a much larger percentage of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Sheeps wrote: »
    A snake ate small animal. I am shocked.

    Added to ignore list.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 catser6767


    Aurum wrote: »
    Of course, because horrible people are a 20th century invention :rolleyes:. A certain percentage of humanity has always been horrible and cruel, it's just that the technological advances of the last fifty years means we're informed about the actions of a much larger percentage of them.
    Firstly never mentioned horrible people.
    Secondly never remotely insinuated that there hasnt always been horrible and cruel people around.
    Thirdly I stated a fact as I see it . That it is another example of our depraved society.
    Finally, Thanks for the tip on technology advances, wish I was as knowledgable as you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Tasteless? That's beyond tasteless - that's a sadistic, disgusting human being, and the argument regarding a snakes diet is irrelevant to the most disturbing aspect to that clip - that someone went to such lengths to lull a kitten into a false sense of security and greatly emphasize the kittens status as a domesticated, and seemingly beloved pet by putting it in a stocking and kissing it - and then feed it to a snake for his own enjoyment. No-one ever said they're indifferent to the potential plights of mice/rats/any other of a million and one animals that perish each and every day as a result of nature taking a course, that was never an issue. Feeding a live kitten to a pet snake in such a manner - as that conducted in the video - is not natures course, it's a sick individual who is clearly somewhat disturbed and took great enjoyment in acting out a scenario that he deemed would cause the greatest emotional reaction possible. Plenty of frozen food is available for snakes, there is no reason to feed it a live kitten. And even regarding live food, and stupid comments like feeding at zoos, I don't really think one would see zoo-keepers kissing and cuddling said food sources and wrapping them in festive bows before coaxing them into the mouths of relevant predator. No-ones arguing natures course, or the food chain, or that snakes are bad. But the manner in which this sick individual went about this, is beyond defense and in my opinion he deserves severe punishment. If I read a story about a snake eating a kitten as a simple occurrence of nature, it wouldn't even phase me 10% of what the nature of this story does.

    The issue here is more so the individual and how he orchestrated this, not the snake, not the kitten, not the food chain, not what snakes usually eat.


    Perfectly put. Cute and cuddly animals die every day in the wild as part of nature. The circumstances and the recording of this act make it absolutely sickening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Aurum


    catser6767 wrote: »
    Firstly never mentioned horrible people.
    Secondly never remotely insinuated that there hasnt always been horrible and cruel people around.
    Thirdly I stated a fact as I see it . That it is another example of our depraved society.
    Finally, Thanks for the tip on technology advances, wish I was as knowledgable as you.

    It is rather a stretch, though, to suggest that society as a whole is depraved based on the actions of a depraved (and very small) minority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭19543261


    As others have pointed out, there are many instances of people feeding prey to predators. The variable factor here is human empathy. After watching a video of a screaming cow or pig being walked towards it's slaughter, a person might argue the justification for the meat on his plate, citing diet and habit. As reaction to a video of a rat being fed to a snake, that person might consider it reasonable according to the food-chain. Change the rat for an animal society empathises with, and suddenly that person faces a criminal charge. Irrational and hypocritical are a few words that come to mind. The death of all animals at the hands of humans should be differentiated by their purpose, and entertainment certainly isnt a morally justifiable one. Yet the cat's death also served another purpose; and that was to feed another animal. This occurs every day, naturally. But the cause and end here was human interference and death, respectively. The reaction by the public to this article verifies that some individuals place varying importance on life, which, when examined, are objectively illogical. Death of animals is caused by most owners of large snakes, possibly to the entrainment of the owner, yet it is not outlawed until that animal's life is one we perceive to be of great(er) importance. The cat died in the same manner that it, and any other animal it's size, would have in the wild - the perceived cruelty here is the enjoyment of the owner. To reason that it was then cruel because the cat is not it's natural prey does not correlate with the magnitude of the emotional response. Perhaps it is reasoned by an individual that the enjoyment of suffering or death is to be criminalised; or perhaps only when the want for this entertainment is acted upon. My overlords are investigating this cognitive err - the report will be completed upon the perceived resolution of this incident. *tck tck tck tkck tck tck tck tck*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    I haven't watched the video because I know it will upset me and I have absolutely no desire to have the memory burned into my brain. The individual in question sounds like a sick git, quite possibly disturbed or lacking in empathy, if others' descriptions and reactions here are anything to go by.

    HOWEVER, and I am not trying to upset anyone here, I completely agree with people who say this is getting the reaction it is getting because of the animal killed in it.

    Don't get me wrong--I'm an animal lover. Have had cats, dogs and a gerbil and doted on all of them. I have also had rats and have seen how easily people dismiss them as smelly, disgusting creatures, when in fact they are often affectionate, very clean (they become upset if left in their own filth), highly intelligent animals.

    I have also had the unhappy misfortune of seeing people of a similar mental bent post feeding videos involving rodents before that have not drawn as severe a reaction as this one.

    I do see the distinction that his method in feeding the kitten to the snake was disgusting but people should be careful not to anthropomorphise one animal (the kitten) and not display the same kind of outrage to another (rodents).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Of course there is a contradiction in the outrage expressed over a kitten as opposed to a rodent, but I think that's because cats are often kept as family pets and people are more shocked by that than anything else. It's also the issue that the video was put up on the internet for people to watch and that the man doing it seems to take some pleasure out of it and probably thinks it's hilarious (bringing it in in a stocking, etc.). It's not a video I'd ever want to see, and I really think that the guy who did it is an utter prick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭skinny90


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_E6Ju1kuoI&NR=1&feature=endscreen
    just out of interest i youtubed it and no matter how vile the person there seems to be 1000's of the same type of video...be it little baby rabit or kitten


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    syklops wrote: »
    Cows are killed swiftly and humanely, they do not spend their last moments terrified, struggling to free themselves from an unknown vice. Cows are killed the way I would choose to die. There is a difference. That you cant see it, worries me.

    POST FAIL

    You're delusional if you actually believe that. People in general is what worries me. :(

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL6gnMHK53k
    There are literally hundreds of videos on the internet showing that cows do 'spend their last moments terrified, struggling to free themselves from an unknown vice'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 301 ✭✭HovaBaby


    I saw a video on youtube of a man feeding a snake a hamster for lunch. Just nature I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    HovaBaby wrote: »
    I saw a video on youtube of a man feeding a snake a hamster for lunch. Just nature I guess.

    There are a hell of a lot of people on here missing the point.

    Had he fed the python a frozen kitten specifically bread for feeding pythons there would be no issue here in my opinion.

    It is the whole videoing and acting out of the feeding that I have issue with.

    Why the Christmas hat, why the Christmas music, why kiss and cuddle the kitten luring it into a false sense of security. Why even focking video the incident and post it in YouTube?

    It's clearly a sick person who done this. Plenty of exotic pet owners feed their pets live prey and don't feel the need to record and put an act on for the feeding. This person got the reaction they wanted. If I ever met him he'd get one help of a punch in the forehead.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Why would anybody want to keep one of those snakes in the first place, alarm bells should start going off when some weirdo comes into a shop and wants to buy one.

    And then you wonder why stuff like this ends up happening?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭Aseth


    Would some of you be still talking about food chain if instead of a kitten was a puppy???
    I bet not!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭ROFLcopter


    Just watched the video on live leak, it didn't look like the kitten suffered too much, now don't get me wrong the guy who made the video is a sick fcuk, he has Mariah Carey's "a whole new world" playing in the background as he records the snake munching down the kitten. He obviously got the kitten for the purpose of feeding his pet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭BunShopVoyeur


    Aseth wrote: »
    Would some of you be still talking about food chain if instead of a kitten was a puppy???
    I bet not!

    It shouldn't make any bloody difference what animal it is?

    I agree with the fact that the guy is an evil ****er for making this for a laugh or whatever his motivation but I don't like the doe eyes and hand wringing just because it's cute.

    "Ah sure rats are ugly and most people hate them, feed them to snakes all day long.........not the kittens though....you can't use the kittens"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Of course the kitten is cute, but anyone that is able to sit back and laugh and mock any animal knowing they are going to hear its cries of terror and death is a sick b*stard.

    Would love to put this guy in front a bear and see the terror in his eyes as he struggles for his life.

    It's absolutely awful. And the cuddling etc beforehand shows just how sick that f*cker is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    There are plenty of videos on youtube of kittens eating snakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    Aseth wrote: »
    Would some of you be still talking about food chain if instead of a kitten was a puppy???
    I bet not!

    If i did i would be just as bad as people caring about cats over rats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭KamiKazeKitten


    syklops wrote: »
    Cows are killed swiftly and humanely, they do not spend their last moments terrified, struggling to free themselves from an unknown vice. Cows are killed the way I would choose to die. There is a difference. That you cant see it, worries me.


    As Fromthetrees said - Google it, look it up on youtube and you will see animals suffering in slaughterhouses. And thats before we even get into how they are kept when they're alive...

    My point of view on this is that would anyone really care if he had fed a rat to the snake? I'm guessing there wouldn't be nearly as much outrage if he had. It's because a cute lil kitty was picked that has everyone all worked up. It's exactly why he chose it - for the shock factor.

    I agree of course that the way the kitten died was horrible, and the fact he enjoyed it and a video of its death was warped. I just think that the fact that it was a kitten has people all worked up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 !3theraven


    Thats not the only video-theres another video from the same user who uploaded another video of himself drowning a kitten in a bath.

    There must be ways with modern technology to track his IP address as where he lives and where these videos were uploaded from.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    There are a hell of a lot of people on here missing the point.

    Had he fed the python a frozen kitten specifically bread for feeding pythons there would be no issue here in my opinion.

    It is the whole videoing and acting out of the feeding that I have issue with.

    Why the Christmas hat, why the Christmas music, why kiss and cuddle the kitten luring it into a false sense of security. Why even focking video the incident and post it in YouTube?

    It's clearly a sick person who done this. Plenty of exotic pet owners feed their pets live prey and don't feel the need to record and put an act on for the feeding. This person got the reaction they wanted. If I ever met him he'd get one help of a punch in the forehead.

    Yes it's certainly disturbing, but that's not the point, if it offends somebody that does not make it illegal, it may be sick all right. If a rat can be fed legally to a snake so can a kitten. IMO neither should be allowed. I don't know the specifics of what is legal to feed to animals, live rats/fish/whatever but if rats were allowed to be fed to them it would be hypocritical for the law to then say it's cuter so it's a crime.


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