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Man feeds live kitten to Burmese Python

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭talkinyite


    Aren't they all equal or does an animals cuteness define it's worth?

    Haven't you seen/read animal farm? http://ykyuen.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/all_animals_are_equal_but_some_animals_are_more_equal_than_others.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭cassi


    pockets3d wrote: »
    as if every person that owns a snake or goes to the zoo isn't entertained by the gruesome feeding habits of nature.

    The guy with the cat was just bringing this fascination to its logical conclusion in order to gain attention from pussys(excuse the pun) like yourselves. You are in fact giving him everything he wants by being shocked by this, making him feel special.

    No, not everyone that owns a snake or goes to the zoo is interested in seeing feeding. Also this is NOT nature, its a guys bedroom. At least in the wild the prey is givin a chance, this kitten was literally handed to the snake.

    I also fail to see how feeding a kitten to a snake brings a logical conclusion to anything. :confused:

    Do you really think the guy made the video for the benefit of people that are horrified by it?? No he made it for other people that would find it entertaining.

    Also if being sickened by some weirdo feeding a defenseless animal to a snake for fun makes me a "pussy" than im absoluetly fine with that!!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 81,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Sick sick sick bastard,he should get his balls chopped off for being so cruel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    I got here late!

    Are we complaining because the kitten was live?

    Or that it was a kitten?

    Or that the snake ate it?

    Or that it was a snake?

    Or that some random faciltated the snakes natural prey instinct?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,731 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    Fcuking dirtbird, deserves to have his fingernails pulled off with pliers in addition to that sentence:mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭steve9859


    The problem is that this was filmed, right? Not that he did it? Or are people getting wound up about a "man feeds predator it's natural prey shocker". They eat dog in some countries....it's not a reach to say that cute little pussy cats are eaten in sone countries too! Who knows what's on your skewer in a Bangkok street market!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    id be suprised if anything happens to him, if he gets done for feeding a kitten o a snake, why shouldnt people who feed mice to them be done... wont watch the vid not my thing really but really people need to come back down to reality here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭BunShopVoyeur


    Fcuking dirtbird, deserves to have his fingernails pulled off with pliers in addition to that sentence:mad:
    Sick sick sick bastard,he should get his balls chopped off for being so cruel.

    No, no, no, no, no you can't feed one animal to another but it's alright to cut off someones balls and pull their fingernails out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭Saaron


    I don't enjoy seeing snakes being fed mice, rats or any other rodent :( So hearing about this is sad. I'm not a huge meat eater either so all in all not a fan of the eating of animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    cassi wrote: »
    Ah come on, there's a huge difference in just feeding a snake a rat or mouse and feeding it a domesticated house cat.

    What's the difference? That a kitten is furry and cute? That you like kittens perhaps, and not so much mice or rats? I'm pretty certain that a pet mouse or rat has as much nerve nerve endings and capacity for fear and dread under their skin, as a fluffy little kitten has under its skin.
    Whats sick is that, the person did this for ENTERTAINMENT!! And its a very very safe assumption to make that the kitten was used because it would get more of a reaction. Thats both cruel AND unnecessary!!

    So you're not outraged so much by him feeding the kitten to the snake, but rather that he chose to record it?
    Whats worse is they promised more videos, if they are starting with kittens where will they progress to.

    Maybe cute rabbits? Perhaps guinea pigs? Maybe he'll do the decent thing and just go back to feeding live mice and rats to his snake, and that way everyone will be happy because no young mammals will be killed in such a horrific way. Er, wait...
    cassi wrote: »
    At least in the wild the prey is givin a chance, this kitten was literally handed to the snake.

    So are rats and mice, and yet only the likes of PETA would complain about that. And they'd probably be mocked for doing so, but at least they're consistent.
    I also fail to see how feeding a kitten to a snake brings a logical conclusion to anything. :confused:
    A logical conclusion to the snake's hunger perhaps? ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Guill wrote: »
    I got here late!

    Are we complaining because the kitten was live?

    Or that it was a kitten?

    Or that the snake ate it?

    Or that it was a snake?

    Or that some random faciltated the snakes natural prey instinct?

    You're just disappointed that is wasn't a a clip of a human eating another human! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭talkinyite


    A rats brain is closer to a humans than a cats, hence why they're studied in laboratories.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    If it was a rat, nobody would care. Snakes eat live things.

    That said, I don't want to even talk to somebody who enjoys doing that and filming it for entertainment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Would it be as 'horrific' if it was a live rat.
    We eat animals that spend their lives in cages. :rolleyes:

    Kittens are cute though.

    It's just like people, only the good looking should have rights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,744 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Would it be as 'horrific' if it was a live rat.
    We eat animals that spend their lives in cages. :rolleyes:
    I agree. People have a huge double standard when it comes to animals; it's ok to feed rats to snakes, but not cats. It's ok to eat pigs, but not dogs, even though pigs are smarter. It's ok to eat chickens but not peacocks. People's opinions are hugely swayed by how pretty the animal is.
    pH wrote: »
    I know we keep cats as pets, and we have empathy for them, but in terms of a developed brain and the ability to feel pain, fear and suffer is there really much difference between a 4 month old kitten and a 4 month old rat?
    A 4month old rat would be basically an adult, so a lot more developed, relatively, than a kitten. The difference between a 17 year old and a 3 year old.
    MiseryCat wrote: »
    OMG! Thats so ****ing cruel,I hope they catch the person for this and How can people be so cruel to animals?seriously!
    Should he let the snake starve to death? Wouldn't that be cruel? Is it ok to be cruel to ugly or scary animals?
    cassi wrote: »
    Ah come on, there's a huge difference in just feeding a snake a rat or mouse and feeding it a domesticated house cat.
    What's the difference? One is a mammal, the other is a mammal. One is intelligent, the other is intelligent. Be honest; the only difference is that rats are 'ugly' whereas cats are 'cute'.
    Whats sick is that, the person did this for ENTERTAINMENT!!
    He did it to feed his pet. Do you have pets? Do you stay up all night heartbroken about the little baa-lambs and chick-chicks that get slaughtered for their dinner?
    And its a very very safe assumption to make that the kitten was used because it would get more of a reaction. Thats both cruel AND unnecessary!!
    Actually, I'd say he used a kitten because that's how much meat the snake needed. Why kill two rats when you can kill one cat? Surely it's better to end one life than two?
    Whats worse is they promised more videos, if they are starting with kittens where will they progress to.
    The elderly, I guess, or babies. :rolleyes:
    No, no, no, no, no you can't feed one animal to another but it's alright to cut off someones balls and pull their fingernails out.
    +1


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Most responsible snake owners feed frozen/thawed and only frozen/thawed...idiots trying to show off feed live in order to provoke a reaction.

    Feed items are euthanised in a humane way and then frozen for snake owners to purchase whether that be mice,rats,gerbils,hamsters,guinea pigs,rabbits.


    On one occasion Ive had to feed live with a particular python that wouldnt eat.Live feeding in that case was required and I sought a vets opinion before doing so--it was a case of feed a live mouse or loose a 500+ euro snake.

    Once the snake fed once on live food it started to eat frozen/thawed and continued to do so.


    The sick **** that posted that video is NOT a responsible snake owner and some users here shouldnt tar all snake owners wuth the one brush.Hes an idiot that should be jailed.

    A kitten in my opinion is not a feed item for a snake--there are enough feed items available to buy without having to resort to feeding a kitten.

    Hes a sick fook and should be hunted down and jailed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    When people lack empathy, they can do anything.:rolleyes:

    There was an article in the UK papers a few days ago about people maiming and killing their pets just to fiddle the insurance.

    http://money.aol.co.uk/2011/11/15/owners-maim-or-kill-pets-for-cash/

    Evil fücks!:mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Wereghost


    Kudos to the RSPCA and the Sun for standing up for what's right. Society needs to be protected from the likes of this cutthroat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭BunShopVoyeur


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Most responsible snake owners feed frozen/thawed and only frozen/thawed...idiots trying to show off feed live in order to provoke a reaction.

    Feed items are euthanised in a humane way and then frozen for snake owners to purchase whether that be mice,rats,gerbils,hamsters,guinea pigs,rabbits.


    On one occasion Ive had to feed live with a particular python that wouldnt eat.Live feeding in that case was required and I sought a vets opinion before doing so--it was a case of feed a live mouse or loose a 500+ euro snake.

    Once the snake fed once on live food it started to eat frozen/thawed and continued to do so.


    The sick **** that posted that video is NOT a responsible snake owner and some users here shouldnt tar all snake owners wuth the one brush.Hes an idiot that should be jailed.

    A kitten in my opinion is not a feed item for a snake--there are enough feed items available to buy without having to resort to feeding a kitten.

    Hes a sick fook and should be hunted down and jailed.

    Ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭cassi


    kylith wrote: »

    What's the difference? One is a mammal, the other is a mammal. One is intelligent, the other is intelligent. Be honest; the only difference is that rats are 'ugly' whereas cats are 'cute'.

    He did it to feed his pet. Do you have pets? Do you stay up all night heartbroken about the little baa-lambs and chick-chicks that get slaughtered for their dinner?

    Actually, I'd say he used a kitten because that's how much meat the snake needed. Why kill two rats when you can kill one cat? Surely it's better to end one life than two?

    The elderly, I guess, or babies. :rolleyes:
    +1

    SERIOUSLY!! Have you actually watched the video or read the article??!!

    The difference and im talking in the case of the video he made not feeding in general, is that he used a PET kitten and not a wild rodent.

    He put the cat in a santa hat, put it on the bed where he had hidden the snake and then distracted the cat when it went into defensive mode after spotting the snake!! If you think thats the normal feeding habits of snake owners then you've just insulted alot of decent people.

    It had nothing to do with the snakes hunger or the amount of meat needed, he didnt for entertainment, its plain as day!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭talkinyite


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Most responsible snake owners feed frozen/thawed and only frozen/thawed...idiots trying to show off feed live in order to provoke a reaction.

    Feed items are euthanised in a humane way and then frozen for snake owners to purchase whether that be mice,rats,gerbils,hamsters,guinea pigs,rabbits.


    On one occasion Ive had to feed live with a particular python that wouldnt eat.Live feeding in that case was required and I sought a vets opinion before doing so--it was a case of feed a live mouse or loose a 500+ euro snake.

    Once the snake fed once on live food it started to eat frozen/thawed and continued to do so.


    The sick **** that posted that video is NOT a responsible snake owner and some users here shouldnt tar all snake owners wuth the one brush.Hes an idiot that should be jailed.

    A kitten in my opinion is not a feed item for a snake--there are enough feed items available to buy without having to resort to feeding a kitten.

    Hes a sick fook and should be hunted down and jailed.

    He should be jailed because you don't consider a pythons kill to be humane? Should muslims and jews be jailed for eating hatal and kosher?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Ridiculous.

    Why??

    As a snake owner myself and having rescued snakes that idiot owners thought were "cool" to live feed only to end up with getting bitten by large pythons in my opinion this bloke should be jailed or fined--...not because it was a kitten but because it was downright cruel.


    As I said there are enough prey items available to buy without having to resort to kittens.Even if he didnt have any pet shops near him a python large enough to take a kitten would last for months without food.

    Even if he was tight for cash the cheapest prey items start at a euro each--a large rabbit is only 4-5 euros over here so probably cheaper in the UK.

    Absolutely no reason to use a live kitten or any live food
    as prey.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    talkinyite wrote: »
    He should be jailed because you don't consider a pythons kill to be euthanasia? Should muslims and jews be jailed for eating hatal and kosher?

    So how did we get from a cruel pet owner to Muslims and Jews.

    He should be jailed because it was cruel--end of.See my last post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Fbjm


    pockets3d wrote: »
    The fact of the matter is that OP is a feline furry.
    Whats weirder about feeding a cat to a python than feeding a cat canned meat that spent its entire life in food factories or a letting it catch a mouse.

    Mice and rats are both common enough pets but no one would bate an eyelid at a python or cat killing them.

    What the heck is a feline furry? I've never been on 4chan etc. so think of me as a newb to the 'net :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    I don't see any problem here.

    Non-story tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭BunShopVoyeur


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Why??

    As a snake owner myself and having rescued snakes that idiot owners thought were "cool" to live feed only to end up with getting bitten by large pythons in my opinion this bloke should be jailed or fined--...not because it was a kitten but because it was downright cruel.


    As I said there are enough prey items available to buy without having to resort to kittens.Even if he didnt have any pet shops near him a python large enough to take a kitten would last for months without food.

    Even if he was tight for cash the cheapest prey items start at a euro each--a large rabbit is only 4-5 euros over here so probably cheaper in the UK.

    Absolutely no reason to use a live kitten or any live food
    as prey.


    Why are kittens any different to "prey items" though?

    I genuinely cannot differentiate between a kitten and another mammal. Some people keep rats and mice as pets and may be as equally horrified as some people here are regarding the kitten.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭talkinyite


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    So how did we get from a cruel pet owner to Muslims and Jews.

    He should be jailed because it was cruel--end of.See my last post.

    Because halal and kosher slaughter isn't considered humane in the western world?

    It's only your opinion that a pythons kill is more cruel than an inhalant or injection.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Why are kittens any different to "prey items" though?

    .


    There is no difference.Say the kitten was purchased as a frozen food item (in some places you can buy kittens like this--not in Europe or the States though) there wouldnt be an issue.

    Its the feeding of LIVE thats the problem--almost all pet snakes will take frozen/thawed and in my opinio if it doesnt it shouldnt be a pet--its too risky.Have you ever tried to get even a 4 ft pythin off someone??Try an 8 foot one--its impossible without 2 people.Feeding live can make the snake think your arm/leg is food even if you are just changing water or cleaning the cage.Its leaving you open to severe injury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    There is no difference.Say the kitten was purchased as a frozen food item (in some places you can buy kittens like this--not in Europe or the States though) there wouldnt be an issue.

    Its the feeding of LIVE thats the problem--almost all pet snakes will take frozen/thawed and in my opinio if it doesnt it shouldnt be a pet--its too risky.Have you ever tried to get even a 4 ft pythin off someone??Try an 8 foot one--its impossible without 2 people.Feeding live can make the snake think your arm/leg is food even if you are just changing water or cleaning the cage.Its leaving you open to severe injury.

    So gassing kittens, freezing them and feeding them to snakes is fine, but live feeding not? Your current argument seems to come down to being worried about the safety of the guy feeding the kitten! is this your primary concern? that he may get bitten by his snake later on if he continues to live feed kittens?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭BunShopVoyeur


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    There is no difference.Say the kitten was purchased as a frozen food item (in some places you can buy kittens like this--not in Europe or the States though) there wouldnt be an issue.

    Its the feeding of LIVE thats the problem--almost all pet snakes will take frozen/thawed and in my opinio if it doesnt it shouldnt be a pet--its too risky.Have you ever tried to get even a 4 ft pythin off someone??Try an 8 foot one--its impossible without 2 people.Feeding live can make the snake think your arm/leg is food even if you are just changing water or cleaning the cage.Its leaving you open to severe injury.

    Listen you obviously know a lot more about the behaviours and eating habits of snakes than I do. If it's a fact that live feeding can make a snake more aggressive then I accept your point but that wasn't what I was arguing against.


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