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Atheism causes creationism

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  • #422
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Sarky wrote: »
    I like Marmite...

    Get out...


  • #423
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Marmite hater! You'll burn in hell!


  • #424
    Newsite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Oh I have read them. There is clearly a world of difference between what you consider to be evidence and what I consider to be evidence. Evidence is something which you do not have. No I don't think it got there by itself, obviously Carl Sagan did it.

    http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/the_cosmos_episode_1_the_shores_of_the_cosmic_ocean

    I don't hate the message. It is idiotic.

    MrP

    I fixed it.

    Not that there's a comparison, but a bit like saying 'Marmite is disgusting'. 'I don't hate Marmite'. Non?

    You're lost, so you find it idiotic. There's no way round that.


  • #425
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Newsite wrote: »
    To summarise - you hate the message, so you find it idiotic.
    Well, what's your opinion think up around the idea where it's have a quotation from Tacitus' Aeneid beside? Did umpteen, at least at the earlier palimpsest, hampers his fibrillitude, in quantum as well as elsewhere?

    But what struck me about the glib line was was the cut-glass postilions, preternatural where not obfuscated made the hoplites so feared and attenuated, as reported by Thucydidease, certainly of the central meconium, paused then reversed sideways. And that's to avoid the carry-on of the Tedescan prince Gallic invaded Italy and happily top-ending the downside in the Gallic Wars up Italy which at the time was divided into three parts, or four if you count Rome?

    It's certainly worth thinking a bout.


  • #426
    Ciaran0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭Ciaran0


    robindch wrote: »
    Well, what's your opinion think up around the idea where it's have a quotation from Tacitus' Aeneid beside? Did umpteen, at least at the earlier palimpsest, hampers his fibrillitude, in quantum as well as elsewhere?

    But what struck me about the glib line was was the cut-glass postilions, preternatural where not obfuscated made the hoplites so feared and attenuated, as reported by Thucydidease, certainly of the central meconium, paused then reversed sideways. And that's to avoid the carry-on of the Tedescan prince Gallic invaded Italy and happily top-ending the downside in the Gallic Wars up Italy which at the time was divided into three parts, or four if you count Rome?

    It's certainly worth thinking a bout.

    Wow. That is spectacular.


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  • #427
    psychward
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭psychward


    Sarky wrote: »
    I like Marmite...


    Vegemite is the one true path. Marmite is an unholy abomination.


  • #428
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    psychward wrote: »
    Marmite is an unholy abomination.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-15933599

    Police have named 62.2 million suspects.


  • #429
    MrPudding
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    robindch wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-15933599

    Police have named 62.2 million suspects.

    This has caused a delay in a conference I am attending. Yet another reason to hate it.

    MrP


  • #430
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Sarky wrote: »
    I like Marmite...
    And I've made my peace with X-Factor.

    /runs


  • #431
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    No Dades!

    Not you too!!!!


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  • #432
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Can one mod card another one?


  • #433
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    robindch wrote: »
    Can one mod card another one?

    Let's hope so :P


  • #434
    dmw07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭dmw07


    Newsite wrote: »
    2000 years ago Paul (a man who actively persecuted Christians, and could have had the easy life, but changed from his ways. Funny that.) knew there were those like you.

    If you believe that line from you local priest, then i know how easy it is to fool you.


  • #435
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    robindch wrote: »
    Can one mod card another one?
    Yes, but I can lift it. :D


  • #436
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Ah, but mr omnipotipants, can you give yourself an infraction so powerful that even you can't lift it?


  • #437
    psychward
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭psychward


    robindch wrote: »
    Mr Pud, you da man!

    After reading his previous post I have come to the conclusion that Mr Pud is the messiah and we should follow him

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krb2OdQksMc


  • #438
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    psychward wrote: »
    After reading his previous post I have come to the conclusion that Mr Pud is the messiah and we should follow him

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZRe1kPWZw


  • #439
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Newsite wrote: »
    You find it lacking, and you find it idiotic, because you're a militant unbeliever who rejects God. And unless you turn from that you always will. It's not about me, it's about you. As you say above, the messenger may change, but you'll still hate the message. Proving, again, it's about you.

    "Militant unbeliever" :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Personally, I don't hate the message - I hate the bullsh*t that surrounds it and I hate the concept of a god. There, I said it - I hate God :D

    "Militant unbeliever" :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • #440
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Newsite wrote: »
    You find it lacking, and you find it idiotic, because you're a militant unbeliever who rejects God. And unless you turn from that you always will. It's not about me, it's about you. As you say above, the messenger may change, but you'll still hate the message. Proving, again, it's about you.

    I'm not a militant unbeliever.

    I just personally think that people who sprout hatred, and eternal love with conditions, condemn good people to a eternity of agony and torture because of their sexuality can quite frankly, go suck on a rail road spike.

    Who are you, or any Church, to say what is and isn't right, all under the righteousness of Religion and a Holy Book, written by the corrupt and biased hand of Men.

    Belief in a God(s) is fine, but don't you dare say you're a better person because you follow the Bible.


  • #441
    Newsite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I'm not a militant unbeliever.

    I just personally think that people who sprout hatred, and eternal love with conditions, condemn good people to a eternity of agony and torture because of their sexuality can quite frankly, go suck on a rail road spike.

    Who are you, or any Church, to say what is and isn't right, all under the righteousness of Religion and a Holy Book, written by the corrupt and biased hand of Men.

    Belief in a God(s) is fine, but don't you dare say you're a better person because you follow the Bible.

    If you can quote a post where I said that, I'd love to see it. I'll wait here while you go find it.


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  • #442
    psychward
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    Newsite wrote: »
    If you can quote a post where I said that, I'd love to see it. I'll wait here while you go find it.


    Calling people ''militant'' as a way of dismissing their legitimate and peacefully held views has connotations of a type of snobbery about it. I can see this with minimal work just reading back 2 or 3 posts.
    In Irish society in particular, calling someone ''militant'' and crucially getting it to stick even when a falsehood does them no favors and excludes them.


  • #443
    Newsite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    psychward wrote: »
    Calling people ''militant'' as a way of dismissing their legitimate and peacefully held views has connotations of a type of snobbery about it. I can see this with minimal work just reading back 2 or 3 posts.
    In Irish society in particular, calling someone ''militant'' and crucially getting it to stick even when a falsehood does them no favors and excludes them.

    The problem is that they are clearly not 'peacefully held', and simply are reinforcing their own position. That you hold them to be 'peacefully held' is the impression you arrive at, quite possibly as you stand full square behind the views being held.

    If you are telling me that being told to 'go suck on a railroad spike' amounts to a 'peacefully held view', then I'd love to hear you can reconcile the two?


  • #444
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Newsite wrote: »
    The problem is that they are clearly not 'peacefully held', and simply are reinforcing their own position. That you hold them to be 'peacefully held' is the impression you arrive at, quite possibly as you stand full square behind the views being held.

    If you are telling me that being told to 'go suck on a railroad spike' amounts to a 'peacefully held view', then I'd love to hear you can reconcile the two?

    Whereas being told you're going to burn in hell for all eternity is all sweetness and light...


  • #445
    dmw07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭dmw07


    Newsite wrote: »
    The problem is that they are clearly not 'peacefully held', and simply are reinforcing their own position. That you hold them to be 'peacefully held' is the impression you arrive at, quite possibly as you stand full square behind the views being held.

    If you are telling me that being told to 'go suck on a railroad spike' amounts to a 'peacefully held view', then I'd love to hear you can reconcile the two?

    You were never told to go and suck on a pike. And if you think you were told this then obviously you are a person that spouts hatred, and eternal love with conditions, condemns good people to a eternity of agony and torture because of their sexuality.

    That would mean that you have homophobe tendencies and have erratic illogical morals. Which i don't think is fully the case.

    My point is, If you are going to play the innocent card which works only so many times, you will also have to accept the pit falls of doing this. How about you address the topics instead of playing behind being offended, and indulging in tomfoolery.


  • #446
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    ^^^ Folks, calm down please.


  • #447
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    robindch wrote: »
    ^^^ Folks, calm down please.

    I am militantly calm


  • #448
    Newsite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    dmw07 wrote: »
    You were never told to go and suck on a pike. And if you think you were told this then obviously you are a person that spouts hatred, and eternal love with conditions, condemns good people to a eternity of agony and torture because of their sexuality.

    That would mean that you have homophobe tendencies and have erratic illogical morals. Which i don't think is fully the case.

    Where did I say that I, specifically, was told to do that? I fully expected you to come back with that - but that wasn't the point. My point is that talking about 'peacefully held views' in the same breath as 'sucking on a rail spike' clearly does not add up.

    There are so many untrue points and flaws in what sonics2k was saying - but this is what happens when you are up on a soap-box and using emotive language - you end up dealing in cliches and misconception. It's easy to get carried away and not look at what you're really claiming to check if it actually adds up.
    dmw07 wrote: »
    My point is, If you are going to play the innocent card which works only so many times, you will also have to accept the pit falls of doing this. How about you address the topics instead of playing behind being offended, and indulging in tomfoolery.

    I have no idea where you are getting that I am playing 'the innocent card'. I don't get how that has anything to do with this discussion. I am not even a tiny bit offended.

    God does not 'condemn' anyone without the person playing their part. He does not 'condemn' homosexuals for being gay, he condemns homosexual acts. He doesn't choose Hell for people, they choose it by not wanting anything to do with Him. I always think it's interesting that people who say they hate God and want nothing to do with Him are the ones who are the most indignant about how He chooses to let them have their way in the end. Doesn't add up when you think about it.


  • #449
    The Mad Hatter
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    Newsite wrote: »
    It's easy to get carried away and not look at what you're really claiming to check if it actually adds up.

    That's what we've been trying to tell you for weeks.


  • #450
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Newsite wrote: »


    God does not 'condemn' anyone without the person playing their part. He does not 'condemn' homosexuals for being gay, he condemns homosexual acts. He doesn't choose Hell for people, they choose it by not wanting anything to do with Him. I always think it's interesting that people who say they hate God and want nothing to do with Him are the ones who are the most indignant about how He chooses to let them have their way in the end. Doesn't add up when you think about it.

    I don't know where to begin. Is this the hard sell? Because it really, really doesn't add up at all.

    I hate your god and all he stands for; I hate him or it because of the foul putrid excrement his followers spew out in order to justify their hatred of homosexuals.

    Nobody chooses for me & nobody ever will, especially not some insane concept that claims "love" with one hand and "hate" with the other.


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  • #451
    Newsite
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    old hippy wrote: »
    I don't know where to begin. Is this the hard sell? Because it really, really doesn't add up at all.

    I hate your god and all he stands for; I hate him or it because of the foul putrid excrement his followers spew out in order to justify their hatred of homosexuals.

    Nobody chooses for me & nobody ever will, especially not some insane concept that claims "love" with one hand and "hate" with the other.

    Maybe you can't read what I wrote above about you making your choice? I mean, I put it as plainly as I possibly could, but if you want me to rephrase it to make it even more clear then just let me know.


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