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Eurogeddon!

  • 28-11-2011 04:19PM
    #1
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 13,475 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    According to this article it has all gone to pot and the collapse of the Euro is now more a matter of when, not if.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8917077/Prepare-for-riots-in-euro-collapse-Foreign-Office-warns.html

    British embassies in the eurozone have been told to draw up plans to help British expats through the collapse of the single currency, amid new fears for Italy and Spain.


    As the Italian government struggled to borrow and Spain considered seeking an international bail-out, British ministers privately warned that the break-up of the euro, once almost unthinkable, is now increasingly plausible.
    Diplomats are preparing to help Britons abroad through a banking collapse and even riots arising from the debt crisis.
    The Treasury confirmed earlier this month that contingency planning for a collapse is now under way.
    A senior minister has now revealed the extent of the Government’s concern, saying that Britain is now planning on the basis that a euro collapse is now just a matter of time.
    “It’s in our interests that they keep playing for time because that gives us more time to prepare,” the minister told the Daily Telegraph.

    Recent Foreign and Commonwealth Office instructions to embassies and consulates request contingency planning for extreme scenarios including rioting and social unrest.
    Greece has seen several outbreaks of civil disorder as its government struggles with its huge debts. British officials think similar scenes cannot be ruled out in other nations if the euro collapses.
    Diplomats have also been told to prepare to help tens of thousands of British citizens in eurozone countries with the consequences of a financial collapse that would leave them unable to access bank accounts or even withdraw cash.
    Fuelling the fears of financial markets for the euro, reports in Madrid yesterday suggested that the new Popular Party government could seek a bail-out from either the European Union rescue fund or the International Monetary Fund.
    There are also growing fears for Italy, whose new government was forced to pay record interest rates on new bonds issued yesterday.
    The yield on new six-month loans was 6.5 per cent, nearly double last month’s rate. And the yield on outstanding two-year loans was 7.8 per cent, well above the level considered unsustainable.
    Italy’s new government will have to sell more than EURO 30 billion of new bonds by the end of January to refinance its debts. Analysts say there is no guarantee that investors will buy all of those bonds, which could force Italy to default.
    The Italian government yesterday said that in talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Prime Minister Mario Monti had agreed that an Italian collapse “would inevitably be the end of the euro.”
    The EU treaties that created the euro and set its membership rules contain no provision for members to leave, meaning any break-up would be disorderly and potentially chaotic.
    If eurozone governments defaulted on their debts, the European banks that hold many of their bonds would risk collapse.
    Some analysts say the shock waves of such an event would risk the collapse of the entire financial system, leaving banks unable to return money to retail depositors and destroying companies dependent on bank credit.
    The Financial Services Authority this week issued a public warning to British banks to bolster their contingency plans for the break-up of the single currency.
    Some economists believe that at worst, the outright collapse of the euro could reduce GDP in its member-states by up to half and trigger mass unemployment.
    Analysts at UBS, an investment bank earlier this year warned that the most extreme consequences of a break-up include risks to basic property rights and the threat of civil disorder.
    “When the unemployment consequences are factored in, it is virtually impossible to consider a break-up scenario without some serious social consequences,” UBS said.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    Nice title:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    I know they keep saying it is going to happen...I just can't imagine it happening:confused:
    I don't think it will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    every week its coming...............

    Would it ever hurry the **** up?








    *i in no way encourage the destruction of the euro*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    Eurogeddon!

    Title fixed ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    I've my pitchfork & water bombs lined up at the door... just in case the Irish embassy is not as forthcoming with a contingency plan for their Irish citizens!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Ah mihole, thats like saying the top civil servants, politicians, and economists in the EU managed to make a complete shambles of the largest financial project in European history!

    ...hmm...

    Seriously though I hope it doesn't collapse, last thing we want is to be pegged to the wreckage of the pound sterling again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    I bought a first class ticket, I expect a first class life raft!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Isn't this how 28 Days Later started?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    Heard rumours that they were printing punts in the mint.. have been for the last week or two..

    probably bull**** though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    What's a punt?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Ah mihole, thats like saying the top civil servants, politicians, and economists in the EU managed to make a complete shambles of the largest financial project in European history!

    ...hmm...

    Seriously though I hope it doesn't collapse, last thing we want is to be pegged to the wreckage of the pound sterling again.

    If the euro collapses the last thing you will be worried about will be which currency we are pegged to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Arnold Layne


    cloud493 wrote: »
    What's a punt?

    A "Poor U Next Tuesday"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    cloud493 wrote: »
    What's a punt?

    It's short for "proper cunt".

    Oh, aren't I terribly witty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    wow, the telegraph predicts the end of the euro. thats a suprise:rolleyes: Im guessing that the spirit of Diana told them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    It's sort for "proper cunt".

    And "sort" is short for... eugh, "short"?

    :eek: Nice Ninja edit!

    Wtf you did a Ninja Delete below this too. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭force eleven


    Bring it on. Lets leave the Euro, leave the EU. Peg the currency to Sterling. Decrease corpo tax and get the US to invest further. Or China, India if you like. Get our fishing grounds back, and make ourselves completely self sufficient again with regards to food production.

    We've lost control and now cannot do anything without Angela or Nicolas's say so. Above points are but a pipe dream, but anyone who thinks this austerity and IMF stranglehold are 'short term' are sorely ignorant...:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Bring it on. Lets leave the Euro, leave the EU. Peg the currency to Sterling. Decrease corpo tax and get the US to invest further. Or China, India if you like. Get our fishing grounds back, and make ourselves completely self sufficient again with regards to food production.

    What makes you think that the US, China or India would be interested in a country that is riddled with debt and risk and no longer has access to the EU common market. Even the plastic paddies wouldn't be interested, they got bigger fish to fry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Yeap a lot of ordinary joe and jane deposits are going to get destroyed but people have been warned for some time now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Bring it on. Lets leave the Euro, leave the EU. Peg the currency to Sterling. Decrease corpo tax and get the US to invest further. Or China, India if you like. Get our fishing grounds back, and make ourselves completely self sufficient again with regards to food production.

    We've lost control and now cannot do anything without Angela or Nicolas's say so. Above points are but a pipe dream, but anyone who thinks this austerity and IMF stranglehold are 'short term' are sorely ignorant...:mad:

    we've never been self sufficient. trying to do that was what caused two recessions before this one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    we've never been self sufficient. trying to do that was what caused two recessions before this one
    We're food self sufficient I think, or could be, if you don't mind eating beef and spuds forever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭Ouchette


    What makes you think that the US, China or India would be interested in a country that is riddled with debt and risk and no longer has access to the EU common market.

    Even if Ireland left the EU as well as the Euro, they'd still be able to trade with the EU. Norway and Switzerland manage just fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭TheDuderino


    Leave the Euro/EU...? Smart. Ignoring the fact we then really become just a rock in the north atlantic, opposed to a rock in the atlantic with access to a huge economic market. We will still have a massive public finance hole we need to account for, through either tax hikes or public sector cuts. The only people lending to us at a rate less than crazy are the IMF/EU. We dont HAVE to take their money, we just need to accept decimation of public services/ tax hikes overnight. Ohh and as from bank debt.... not sure what happens if we screw them over. The ECB no longer has money pumped in, cos we aint part of the euro/EU, so they all collapse.
    The IMF/EU are the only ones keeping the Irish wagon rolling. We brought this mess on ourselves by keeping FF in power (never voted for em myself - bit of a blueshirt). FF should have stopped things getting out of hand. Should have made sure the regulator, regulated. The buck stops somewhere...always at the top. Take a bow Mr Ahern!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve




    They don't deserve punishment... they deserve gunishment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    We're food self sufficient I think, or could be, if you don't mind eating beef and spuds forever.

    which you can do if you want to suffer massive malnutrition.

    it does nobody any good to be self sufficient, all you end up with is a large black market. we tried it before and i failed utterly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    Currently, Ireland produces enough food to feed 36 million people. The average number of wet days (days with more than 1mm of rain) ranges from about 150 days a year along the east and south-east coasts, to about 225 days a year in parts of the west. We'll always have a bit of munch and some water to wash it down with if things go really tits up. :)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 13,475 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    We'll be back in the Stone age, aka the 80's. Crap roads, crap jobs and crap fashion taste.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    Currently, Ireland produces enough food to feed 36 million people. The average number of wet days (days with more than 1mm of rain) ranges from about 150 days a year along the east and south-east coasts, to about 225 days a year in parts of the west. We'll always have a bit of munch and some water to wash it down with if things go really tits up. :)

    You're a glass half full type of person. I like it. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,152 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    What happens tracker mortgages that track the ECB rate ??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta


    Can we just forget this Euro rubbish and go back to the old currency where we dealt in potatoes or Guinness or whatever it was :confused:


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