Comments that left you fuming! (And maths debate)

OldmanMondeo · 27-11-2011 08:57PM

Take your maths outside and divide, multiply and stick it up your arse, then go figure it out. and breath.....

Worked in a place years ago, was during a sale and I was in charge of despatch, had worked at least 12 hour days for around 2 weeks, including weekends, the last day of the sale, we're opened about an hour, this stuck up auld lad comes, who was their the previous night but left when we told all customers waiting it was past 10pm the staff where knackered and were going home, theywould have to collect the next day or we would deliver at no extra cost, up smiles and says "Well you showered then", like F you dickwad, I shower everyday and after a 12+ hard hour day, yip I am gonna smell a bit.

steddyeddy · 27-11-2011 08:57PM

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

Your clearly trolling
It's not a lie and yeah there Is a reason it's because the educational system is a joke

+1

How well you do in the leaving does not forecast how well you do in college. Biology in particular is not indicative of college biology.

AfterDusk · 27-11-2011 08:58PM

Friend of mine was applying for his NHS number in a medical centre when we moved to the UK a few months ago. I already had my NHS no. so registering at the medical centre was no problem for me.

But the wagon of a receptionist took great pleasure in refusing his application 'because he didn't have a stamp in his passport to say he could work in the UK'. I have never been so enraged in my life. She was trying to imply that an Irish person needed a Visa to live & work in the UK! Stupid bítch! :mad:

AnamGlas · 27-11-2011 08:58PM

Can we finish up with the maths debating please :pac:

Yahew · 27-11-2011 08:59PM

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

Why simply because he did ordinary level maths ? Even though he got a 1.1 in civil engineering and all his lecturers commended him ?!

Wondering how he got into a civil engineering course with lower level maths, and how did he get past the hurdles of not knowing the higher level maths needed?

Its possible, of course, that people are immature in school, don't do the HL maths but have a proficiency, and then get better when mature.

If your friend got a 1.1 in Civil Engineering he should be proficient in maths far beyond the level of a HL maths student, so the debate here is mere terminology about what people did in school, rather than what mathematical ability they need. Nobody should be getting though these courses with the level of mathematics of a OL maths student, since the maths needed is far higher.

( I could easily post links to first year engineering books on Amazon which have the "look inside" feature to prove the point, but the point should be simple). In other news, if you want to do English literature at university, honours English would be a plus. And so on.

amacca · 27-11-2011 09:00PM

AnamGlas wrote: »

Can we finish up with the maths debating please :pac:

shhh.....not too soon...hold back for a better ending young one!

Yahew · 27-11-2011 09:00PM

neil2304 wrote: »

Friend of mine was applying for his NHS number in a medical centre when we moved to the UK a few months ago. I already had my NHS no. so registering at the medical centre was no problem for me.

But the wagon of a receptionist took great pleasure in refusing his application 'because he didn't have a stamp in his passport to say he could work in the UK'. I have never been so enraged in my life. She was trying to imply that an Irish person needed a Visa to live & work in the UK! Stupid bítch! :mad:

Thats true. You need to register.

Namlub · 27-11-2011 09:00PM

Yahew wrote: »

If they did ordinary level maths the bridge would collapse long before I get on it. I didn't use the word retard - however engineering, science in general, physics, and other scientific subjects need higher level maths. It used to be a requirement, as far as I know.

Because secondary school maths is the most reliable measure of how capable an engineer is at their job...

AfterDusk · 27-11-2011 09:03PM

Yahew wrote: »

Thats true. You need to register.

No I know you need to register. But she was implying that he was an illegal immigrant. She wouldn't register him because she said his passport didn't have a stamp. An Irish person moving to the UK doesn't need a Visa. EU free movement and all that

Yahew · 27-11-2011 09:03PM

Namlub wrote: »

Because secondary school maths is the most reliable measure of how capable an engineer is at their job...

Unless immaturity is a reason, then not being able to do Higher Level mathematics at school means you will not be able to do the harder level needed in most engineering college degrees.

This statement produced by the dept. of the obvious.

KeithM89_old · 27-11-2011 09:04PM

BEASTERLY wrote: »

:P When a troll is caught he's caught...oh well i wasted a few minutes for people.:D

Thats nice.
Banned.

tayto lover · 27-11-2011 09:06PM

I got onto a bus recently and a young lad got up and offered me his seat. He was lucky he didn't get a clip on the ear.

Eric Cartman · 27-11-2011 09:07PM

BEASTERLY wrote: »

In fairness he had a point. Anyway ordinary level is not real maths and people who do it will never get anywhere where they may need real maths, so who cares.

ill give this 2/10

Lord Ned Stark · 27-11-2011 09:07PM

Yahew wrote: »

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

Why simply because he did ordinary level maths ? Even though he got a 1.1 in civil engineering and all his lecturers commended him ?!

Wondering how he got into a civil engineering course with lower level maths, and how did he get past the hurdles of not knowing the higher level maths needed?

Its possible, of course, that people are immature in school, don't do the HL maths but have a proficiency, and then get better when mature.

If your friend got a 1.1 in Civil Engineering he should be proficient in maths far beyond the level of a HL maths student, so the debate here is mere terminology about what people did in school, rather than what mathematical ability they need. Nobody should be getting though these courses with the level of mathematics of a OL maths student, since the maths needed is far higher.

( I could easily post links to first year engineering books on Amazon which have the "look inside" feature to prove the point, but the point should be simple). In other news, if you want to do English literature at university, honours English would be a plus. And so on.

No problem with your questions at all !!
He did an extra module to get into the course !!
He so simply worked at it and studied and the quality of lecturers helped

Eric Cartman · 27-11-2011 09:11PM

college lecturer years ago on the topic of an electronic circuit simulator : "dont put a switch in there , you dont learn how to use a switch until next semester, and if you dont know what your doing the experiment results will be wrong"

I decided that level of thinking from a lecturer meant college wasnt for me

merengueca · 27-11-2011 09:15PM

Yahew wrote: »

Unless immaturity is a reason, then not being able to do Higher Level mathematics at school means you will not be able to do the harder level needed in most engineering college degrees.

This statement produced by the dept. of the obvious.

I failed maths at secondary school - got a D in GCSE.. now a qualified, experienced Civil Engineer - head hunted twice, responsible for some remarkable infrastructure also earning an obscene wage

.

Yahew · 27-11-2011 09:16PM

My last post on the maths and engineering issue. Here is the standard entry textbook on engineering mathematics. It does go over the foundations again, which would be up to HL standards, but it is all hard sums. You can look inside the book on amazon and see 25% of it.

And thats first ( or second) year stuff.

You need that competence in mathematics to get a B.Eng.

charlemont · 27-11-2011 09:16PM

I only done foundation maths and only got a B.

Strangely enough I'm quite good at Area/Volume etc Got an A in Tech Graphics.

Yahew · 27-11-2011 09:17PM

merengueca wrote: »

I failed maths at secondary school - got a D in GCSE.. now a qualified, experienced Civil Engineer - head hunted twice, responsible for some remarkable infrastructure also earning an obscene wage .

I see. I am 35 though, so possibly standards have declined, or you matured. I would have thought a civil engineer with a D in GCSE is like a poetry lecturer with no ability to read.

Apparently not. Cant see us over-taking the Chinese at this rate.

merengueca · 27-11-2011 09:20PM

Yahew wrote: »

I see. I am 35 though, so possibly standards have declined, or you matured. I would have thought a civil engineer with a D in GCSE is like a poetry lecturer with no ability to read.

Apparently not. Cant see us over-taking the Chinese at this rate.

My last project was in China;)

Lord Ned Stark · 27-11-2011 09:21PM

Yahew wrote: »

merengueca wrote: »

I failed maths at secondary school - got a D in GCSE.. now a qualified, experienced Civil Engineer - head hunted twice, responsible for some remarkable infrastructure also earning an obscene wage .

I see. I am 35 though, so possibly standards have declined, or you matured. I would have thought a civil engineer with a D in GCSE is like a poetry lecturer with no ability to read.

Apparently not. Cant see us over-taking the Chinese at this rate.

Tbh I think it's the standard of maths teachers today compared to years ago some are ridiculously bad and I read somewhere that over 25% of maths teachers in Ireland aren't properly qualified to teach it

Eric Cartman · 27-11-2011 09:25PM

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

Tbh I think it's the standard of maths teachers today compared to years ago some are ridiculously bad and I read somewhere that over 25% of maths teachers in Ireland aren't properly qualified to teach it

we had an electronics graduate try to teach us LC maths after being left for 6 months with no maths teacher in 6th year , surprisingly 4 out of 7 of us doing higher level failed.....

engineering grads teaching maths is apparantly quite common...or atleast was 5 years ago

cocoshovel · 27-11-2011 09:28PM

charlemont wrote: »

I only done foundation maths and only got a B. Strangely enough I'm quite good at Area/Volume etc Got an A in Tech Graphics.

Foundation level B, high five!

Im terrible at maths. Shame pretty much every college course in Ireland requires you to have a decent level at maths.

Also we went through about 4 maths teachers throughout 6th year, none of which could teach properly or show up half the time. They just didn't give a shíte about our class. :pac:

(Thread needs to be re named to something math related)

27-11-2011 09:28PM

I wish people would stop putting about the notion that honours maths is omg-super hard and deserves the extra points
I don't really think it does at all, it's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy - tell everyone it's really hard and they should find it difficult, and they will

That's not allowing for bad teachers of course

amacca · 27-11-2011 09:28PM

Lord Ned Stark wrote: »

Tbh I think it's the standard of maths teachers today compared to years ago some are ridiculously bad and I read somewhere that over 25% of maths teachers in Ireland aren't properly qualified to teach it

possibly......

the actual standards of behaviour and those expected and enforced have also slipped back in a big way.......kind of makes it hard to teach when anto, shayo and deco just wont shut the fcuk up and cant be shifted for the best part of two years... if of course the school wants to shift them at all given they would like to hold on to numbers

two sides to every coin and all that

amacca · 27-11-2011 09:30PM

bluewolf wrote: »

I wish people would stop putting about the notion that honours maths is omg-super hard and deserves the extra points
I don't really think it does at all, it's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy - tell everyone it's really hard and they should find it difficult, and they will

too true..........unfortunately

Darksaga87 · 27-11-2011 09:33PM

Put an opinion on facebook today about the waste of life lost by gary speed, and the death of a rifleman in afghanistan today, the difference being only one will make news headlines, and not the good one. I then get berated with comments about how great a hero gary speed was. Like I give a toss. I have friends in afghanistan.

chocksaway · 27-11-2011 09:34PM

cocoshovel wrote: »

Foundation level B, high five!

Im terrible at maths. Shame pretty much every college course in Ireland requires you to have a decent level at maths.

Also we went through about 4 maths teachers throughout 6th year, none of which could teach properly or show up half the time. They just didn't give a shíte about our class. :pac:

(Thread needs to be re named to something math related)

Any ideas.. I'm drawing a blank!:pac:

Aoifey! · 27-11-2011 09:36PM

chocksaway wrote: »

Any ideas.. I'm drawing a blank!:pac:

I like it :pac:

im invisible · 27-11-2011 09:38PM

Whats the square root of 4b^2?

2b or not 2b

just saw the title change there, should it not be math-debate...