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Comments that left you fuming! (And maths debate)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Ordinary maths is not aimed at mentally retarded people so he doesnt have a point.

    Is mentally retarded the new PC way of saying that.?:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭chocksaway


    woodoo wrote: »
    Who did she want the job for? Does she think you are minted or something. Strange woman. I'd bar her.

    Was just one of those statements- like the 'lucky you have a job' ones we get regularly. People were too important to be seen stacking shelves ot too long ago and now they're giving out saying college students have 'taken them all'. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    You obviously don't grasp the concept of real maths. I'm sure working out 'real world situation' such as the chances of winning a chance game is great. plus everything done in ordinary level is covered in higher in the introductions to each topic!

    Oh I do, i've been to school, i've done my Leaving Cert, i've done college level Maths. I know what i'm talking about.

    It's quite obvious that you are in denial about what "real" maths are. Maths gets to a point where it stops becoming something that is useful in real life and starts to become a specified medium.

    "Real" maths are the maths that you can "really" use in the "real" world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Not really, how will somebody who did ordinary maths for the LC manage in a science or engineering degree. If they couldn't be arsed putting in enough extra work to keep up higher level in school they sure wont after.

    Are you joking? Plenty of people who did ordinary maths for the leaving cert and went onto study science. I studied biology and started out studying ordinary maths. I know biology is not maths heavy but we had to cover linear algebra and calculus in first year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    So she served you without you producing ID?

    It's HER who should be given the heeve-ho!

    This leaves me fuming.:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Lord Ned Stark


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    chocksaway wrote: »
    Bit over the top don't ya think.. there's ways and means around everything....

    Not really, how will somebody who did ordinary maths for the LC manage in a science or engineering degree. If they couldn't be arsed putting in enough extra work to keep up higher level in school they sure wont after.

    Are you actually serious ?! Like really serious ?! Or have you been repeatedly banging your head off a wall all day ?! One honours maths is extremely hard two the standard of teachers is very poor three it takes way more time than any other subject four it isn't really applicable in real life and just for your information my brother got a B in ordinary maths and went on to top his class in Engineering in university so take your huge unfounded generalisations and hide them deep inside before you make an idiot of yourself

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭Yahew


    chocksaway wrote: »
    Was just one of those statements- like the 'lucky you have a job' ones we get regularly. People were too important to be seen stacking shelves ot too long ago and now they're giving out saying college students have 'taken them all'. :mad:

    Nobody is lucky to have a job - unless they are a CEO or banker or something. In general lucky people don't need jobs because they inherit wealth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Ordinary maths is not aimed at mentally retarded people so he doesnt have a point.

    retards...manual laboureres....no hopers....ordinary maths students.

    Just a case of wording...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭chocksaway


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Oh I do, i've been to school, i've done my Leaving Cert, i've done college level Maths. I know what i'm talking about.

    It's quite obvious that you are in denial about what "real" maths are. Maths gets to a point where it stops becoming something that is useful in real life and starts to become a specified medium.

    "Real" maths are the maths that you can "really" use in the "real" world.

    +1
    There's only so many place imaginary numbers will bring you! The standards of maths required for most science engineering degrees is quite low. Once you pass the modules you rarely have to use half the stuff again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Not really, how will somebody who did ordinary maths for the LC manage in a science or engineering degree. If they couldn't be arsed putting in enough extra work to keep up higher level in school they sure wont after.
    Probably not very well. They're still not retards though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭Yahew


    Are you actually serious ?! Like really serious ?! Or have you been repeatedly banging your head off a wall all day ?! One honours maths is extremely hard two the standard of teachers is very poor three it takes way more time than any other subject four it isn't really applicable in real life and just for your information my brother got a B in ordinary maths and went on to top his class in Engineering in university so take your huge unfounded generalisations and hide them deep inside before you make an idiot of yourself

    Thanks

    Really, what type of engineering? Because I am not walking on a bridge he builds, or designs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    chocksaway wrote: »
    Was just one of those statements- like the 'lucky you have a job' ones we get regularly. People were too important to be seen stacking shelves ot too long ago and now they're giving out saying college students have 'taken them all'. :mad:

    I'd bet her children are living of the state and wouldn't even want the job anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Not really, how will somebody who did ordinary maths for the LC manage in a science or engineering degree. If they couldn't be arsed putting in enough extra work to keep up higher level in school they sure wont after.

    Lol!

    Funny how you're telling people they don't know what they're talking about and then come out with a statement like this!

    Turns out Common Sense isn't on the Real Maths curriculum :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭Yahew


    chocksaway wrote: »
    +1
    There's only so many place imaginary numbers will bring you! The standards of maths required for most science engineering degrees is quite low. Once you pass the modules you rarely have to use half the stuff again

    Gosh I must have done a different kinda engineering to most other people. Anybody with a B-Eng should have had to to get an A, or B in leaving cert maths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    retards...manual laboureres....no hopers....ordinary maths students.

    Just a case of wording...

    Wow.

    I'd give you a slide and think you weren't trolling but your spelling shows you up.

    Post reported


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭chocksaway


    Turns out most of he comments that wind people up are in this thread.....:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    retards...manual laboureres....no hopers....ordinary maths students.

    Just a case of wording...

    Clearly your life has worked so well...to be slagging off perfectly normal people on an internet forum.

    I did ord in the end, and my life has worked out pretty darn sweet. Have a job, nice standard of living etc.

    Clearly I'm a happier person than you so I feel sorry for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    retards...manual laboureres....no hopers....ordinary maths students.

    Just a case of wording...

    Ha ha you must be joking man. Half the top biologists I worked with have done ordinary level maths. Some have modified genes in crops adding nutirents that prevented blindness, some have synthesised enzymes that restore function to tissues and others are working on tissue regeneration in salamanders and trying to apply their findings to mammals. These people are all no hopers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    Yahew wrote: »
    Really, what type of engineering? Because I am not walking on a bridge he builds, or designs.

    Do you check the qualifications of all the engineers involved before setting foot on every bridge then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Wicklowrider


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    In fairness he had a point. Anyway ordinary level is not real maths and people who do it will never get anywhere where they may need real maths, so who cares.
    No he didn't have a point. He had an elitist pompous attitude. He said that anyone not doing higher maths was retarded.Maths teacher? How does a maths teacher look down on anyone?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Are you actually serious ?! Like really serious ?! Or have you been repeatedly banging your head off a wall all day ?! One honours maths is extremely hard two the standard of teachers is very poor three it takes way more time than any other subject four it isn't really applicable in real life and just for your information my brother got a B in ordinary maths and went on to top his class in Engineering in university so take your huge unfounded generalisations and hide them deep inside before you make an idiot of yourself

    Thanks

    You shouldn't make your lies so obvious!

    Seems like some people get angry when somebody shatters their illusion that they're smart because they got a high grade on tard-level maths.

    There's a reason why an A1 in higher level will earn you 130 points, while an A1 in ordinary level will earn you just 60.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    A comment a little old woman made to a Polish shop worker the other day. She appeared to casually ask where she was from, and then made some comment about taking our jobs. Both our jaws nearly the floor, poor girl was horrified and had to ask me what the old one said, as could quite not belive it what she had heard.

    I felt outraged and embarrised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Not really, how will somebody who did ordinary maths for the LC manage in a science or engineering degree. If they couldn't be arsed putting in enough extra work to keep up higher level in school they sure wont after.

    My cousin did Ordinary maths in his leaving got a C. Then 5 years later went to college( maths course anyway). Now hes in his final year studying for his masters to be an actuary.


    Just because you do Ordinary level in school doesn't mean you can't study maths in college a few years later etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Lord Ned Stark


    Yahew wrote: »
    Are you actually serious ?! Like really serious ?! Or have you been repeatedly banging your head off a wall all day ?! One honours maths is extremely hard two the standard of teachers is very poor three it takes way more time than any other subject four it isn't really applicable in real life and just for your information my brother got a B in ordinary maths and went on to top his class in Engineering in university so take your huge unfounded generalisations and hide them deep inside before you make an idiot of yourself

    Thanks

    Really, what type of engineering? Because I am not walking on a bridge he builds, or designs.


    Why simply because he did ordinary level maths ? Even though he got a 1.1 in civil engineering and all his lecturers commended him ?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭Yahew


    Namlub wrote: »
    Do you check the qualifications of all the engineers involved before setting foot on every bridge then?

    If they did ordinary level maths the bridge would collapse long before I get on it. I didn't use the word retard - however engineering, science in general, physics, and other scientific subjects need higher level maths. It used to be a requirement, as far as I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,971 ✭✭✭amacca


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    retards...manual laboureres....no hopers....ordinary maths students.

    Just a case of wording...

    woah.....I sort of admire you sticking to your guns but you really know how to lose friends and alienate people


    so maybe you could say some people are doing ordinary level maths because they are lazy...and some are doing it because they are challenged etc however many people doing it can be gifted in other areas and are not necessarily retarded

    (btw : there is also foundation level for either those who never come to school/ dont care or are very challenged or indeed challenging)

    so aside from my belief that an increasing number of students today are lazier than they used to be and lacking in personal responsibility and perseverance for longer in life...I those that do ordinary certainly are not retards or anything of the sort.



    + the whole real maths argument is nonsense.....any maths is real maths by virtue of the fact it exists and you can perform measurable/verifiable calculations etc with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Wow.

    I'd give you a slide and think you weren't trolling but your spelling shows you up.

    Post reported

    :P When a troll is caught he's caught...oh well i wasted a few minutes for people.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Lord Ned Stark


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Are you actually serious ?! Like really serious ?! Or have you been repeatedly banging your head off a wall all day ?! One honours maths is extremely hard two the standard of teachers is very poor three it takes way more time than any other subject four it isn't really applicable in real life and just for your information my brother got a B in ordinary maths and went on to top his class in Engineering in university so take your huge unfounded generalisations and hide them deep inside before you make an idiot of yourself

    Thanks

    You shouldn't make your lies so obvious!

    Seems like some people get angry when somebody shatters their illusion that they're smart because they got a high grade on tard-level maths.

    There's a reason why an A1 in higher level will earn you 130 points, while an A1 in ordinary level will earn you just 60.


    Your clearly trolling
    It's not a lie and yeah there Is a reason it's because the educational system is a joke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Yahew wrote: »
    If they did ordinary level maths the bridge would collapse long before I get on it. I didn't use the word retard - however engineering, science in general, physics, and other scientific subjects need higher level maths. It used to be a requirement, as far as I know.

    No they dont. If you enter without higher level maths often theres an extra module you have to sit to bring you up to speed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭chocksaway


    irish-stew wrote: »
    A comment a little old woman made to a Polish shop worker the other day. She appeared to casually ask where she was from, and then made some comment about taking our jobs. Both our jaws nearly the floor, poor girl was horrified and had to ask me what the old one said, as could quite not belive it what she had heard.

    I felt outraged and embarrised.

    Stuff like that annoys the sh*t out of me.. people came here to work and to do the jobs that the Irish thought they were 'too good for'. Now things are gone belly up a whole other side of people has come out!


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