Racism

Ryan Tasteless Lumber wrote: »

In my experience, yes a lot of times it is.

I posted about this more than once... Again speaking from experience, if I stop a black African at the door of a pub or club the race card is immediately thrown at me, and quite aggressively too - its a minefield and I'm very careful of my actions and what I say.

Member's of the travelling community will play it too, I'm 50/50 on this one.

Whilst I know they can be troublesome, personally speaking (again) I've only been in one row with traveler's in a bar and it was caused by a DJ making a stupid joke about traveler's.

Another minority I'd regularly have dealings with are Roma gypsy, who I've NEVER seen play the race card - if their told to stop selling rose's or begging around a pub/club door they'll leave and won't cause trouble.

Same as you get the Roma trying to come in dressed in suits, or as a couple - they know that we know what their game is and a nod or a simple 'no' and they'll leave so as not to draw attention to themselves.

There ya go OP, is that what you want?.

I am black... i worked as a doorman in Dublin for fifteen years in many dublin spots and I must say I get accused of racism regularly for not letting people in despite the fact that majority of callers inside wherever I was working were white. Would I say that is playing the race card? No, I would just say that is the myopic view of a drunken guy that just got denied entry into a place.

Story time. I got off the ferry @ holyhead driving my ten year old reliable, I however got pulled over by the UK border force who tried their best not to annoy me. Driving towards a guy that flagged me down, I noticed that he was looking at a piece of paper, probably reading my car description and plate number. I pulled over they asked for ID I provided my drivers licence which was rejected as my place of birth did not say Ireland. the official assumed I had no visa however I pulled out my passport and viola the attitude changed and my passport was returned to me and you could hear her referring to me as a sir. I was quickly waved on. is that racism? I say not. That is ethnic profiling in action,

I will attempt to differentiate between racism and ethnic profiling.

I hate XYZ people = racism

XYZ people behave like this = ethnic profiling.

I would rather not serve these people for whatever reason = ethnic profiling therefore, Scully is guilty of ethnic profiling.

ojola wrote: »

No answer?

Would it have anything to do with most black taxi driver's ask you for directions? or that most taxi's I've been in that are driven by black guys they always have a sat nav....

Or possibly the FACT that some black taxi driver's do not have to undergo the extensive back round checks indigenous taxi driver's do, This was pointed out some years ago by the rep from the taxi federation i.e how can a proper check be done on a African applicant. Now if you have an issue with this post that's fine,if you think it has any kind of racist slant that's also fine. I am giving my opinion and giving facts from my own experiences.

not yet wrote: »

Would it have anything to do with most black taxi driver's ask you for directions? or that most taxi's I've been in that are driven by black guys they always have a sat nav....

Or possibly the FACT that some black taxi driver's do not have to undergo the extensive back round checks indigenous taxi driver's do, This was pointed out some years ago by the rep from the taxi federation i.e how can a proper check be done on a African applicant. Now if you have an issue with this post that's fine,if you think it has any kind of racist slant that's also fine. I am giving my opinion and giving facts from my own experiences.

Please do not prempt my perception of your post. It is almost as bad as assumimng what a person would say before they say it.

Also I will have you note that the background checks are not any different irrespective of where prospective taxi drivers come from. Also do you know how many new estates sprang up during the celtic tiger boom days? What is wrong with a guy having a backup plan peradventure he needs it. Also Sat Navs have more than 1 use, they can also be bluetooth units used for mobile communications.

Your reasoning above are those raised by xenophobes in the taxi industry who would rather keep irish jobs for the Indigenous Irish.

Another story. I was working one night; I had the pleasure of a taxi driver friend of mine waiting for a fare at the hotel taht I worked in. He kept complaining about the number of taxi drivers on the road and how the business had been destroyed by foreigners. I listened for so long and after a while I decided to shut him up: how did I do it? I asked him a few questions.

1. How long does it take to train to become a taxi driver? Not very long ( a few days actually)

2. How long does it take to train to be a security guard? Not very long either.

3. How long does it take to be a brain surgeon or a doctor or an astronaught? Very very long.

4. which jobs are safer? of course we all know his answer.

My point being in a recession,people that lose their jobs would descend on the low level jobs. Jobs that need just little training.

I told him to do what people do when their earnings are not enough, get a 2nd job or change careers. that is what majority of people do in society. Why not the taxi industry.

I think people are missing the real elephant in the room that Irish people by enlarge are racist -

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well this must be a big room because there's many elephants in it but yes that's exactly what I'm saying - by enlarge only white people can be racist.

That is shyte... a bigot can be any colour. You are playing right into the hands of the people the OP is talking about, cause they are there too.

Chuck Stone wrote: »

BTW - is that elephant in the room an African or Asian one? I find Asian Elephants are severely underrepresented in the media.

It doesnt matter to me as I'm not a racist - I'll take the elephant at face value without the racial profiling that your so hell bent on doing.