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Black girl raped by 4 white teens.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Yeah read a bit about that yesterday. WTF is wrong with people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Rape is rape.

    Why draw a distinction? Women and girls of all backgrounds are assaulted in this manner and I see no reason why her racial background has been brought into this.

    Rape should be treated with the same severity as murder regardless of the victims background


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    I might be wrong but is nt this the 2nd such incidence of a black girl being raped by white teens this week?

    http://www.herald.ie/news/race-rape-of-girl-16-2942663.html

    I don't think you should focus on the girls colour, Rapist are not usually picky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭KINGVictor


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Rape is rape.

    Why draw a distinction? Women and girls of all backgrounds are assaulted in this manner and I see no reason why her racial background has been brought into this.

    Rape should be treated with the same severity as murder regardless of the victims background


    Yeah you are correct but I wonder if the response would have been measured if it was 4 Nigerian men that raped an Irish girl...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    More crap from the Herald...now with added racism.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭parrai


    Animals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,530 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    We don't know the whole story so won't make any judgements on the rapists' motives in this case.

    However, it's not always as simple as "rape is rape". Rape is commonly used as a weapon in civil wars drawn on ethnic lines, i.e. the idea is raping the women of your enemies will "de-purify" them and advance your side's ethnicity. This happened in Rwanda, the Congo and Bosnia. It's definitely a case that rape can be used in a racist way and it's not always as simple as controlling the person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭arse..biscuits


    "Race Rape" should sell more copies and generate more profit than boring old "Rape"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    KINGVictor wrote: »
    Yeah you are correct but I wonder if the response would have been measured if it was 4 Nigerian men that raped an Irish girl...

    It's peoples own business how they react to a sexual assault but any reasonable person shouldn't be deflected from the seriousness of a rape by mere skin colour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,583 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    The Herald must have read the bastard rapists minds as to their reason for raping someone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭bbam


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Rape should be treated with the same severity as murder

    It should be but unfortunately in this country that means being pampered in relative luxury at the expense of the tax payer...

    My idea of an appropriate punishment would involve a 6 x 6 cell, window would be optional (but would replace the need for a light), chair, mattress and a ****ter in the corner...

    No.. books, tv, phone, drugs, family contact, x-box, play station, fresh air, strolls round Dublin, Christmas days out...

    I think we should be looking at a decent deterrent rather than rehabilitation..

    Assholes would quickly realise that being locked up would MEAN being locked up and they would fear being caught..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    4 of the cnuts Jesus,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    We don't know the whole story so won't make any judgements on the rapists' motives in this case..

    But you will anyway...
    However, it's not always as simple as "rape is rape". Rape is commonly used as a weapon in civil wars drawn on ethnic lines, i.e. the idea is raping the women of your enemies will "de-purify" them and advance your side's ethnicity. This happened in Rwanda, the Congo and Bosnia. It's definitely a case that rape can be used in a racist way and it's not always as simple as controlling the person.

    Irish Voodoo practioners are also known to be active in the area.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    parrai wrote: »
    Animals

    Animals dont commit rape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    KINGVictor wrote: »
    Yeah you are correct but I wonder if the response would have been measured if it was 4 Nigerian men that raped an Irish girl...

    Depends if they were black Nigerians I suppose.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 160 ✭✭My_left_leg


    We don't know the whole story so won't make any judgements on the rapists' motives in this case.

    However, it's not always as simple as "rape is rape". Rape is commonly used as a weapon in civil wars drawn on ethnic lines, i.e. the idea is raping the women of your enemies will "de-purify" them and advance your side's ethnicity. This happened in Rwanda, the Congo and Bosnia. It's definitely a case that rape can be used in a racist way and it's not always as simple as controlling the person.

    yes i agree Jack. one of the more intelligent contributions thus far.
    i recall from my history classes that the Russians were quite keen on it after they fought the Nazis back in 1945.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    We don't know the whole story so won't make any judgements on the rapists' motives in this case.

    However, it's not always as simple as "rape is rape". Rape is commonly used as a weapon in civil wars drawn on ethnic lines, i.e. the idea is raping the women of your enemies will "de-purify" them and advance your side's ethnicity. This happened in Rwanda, the Congo and Bosnia. It's definitely a case that rape can be used in a racist way and it's not always as simple as controlling the person.

    Are the motives really that important?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Animals dont commit rape.

    You need to watch National Geographic more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭arse..biscuits


    We don't know the whole story so won't make any judgements on the rapists' motives in this case.

    However, it's not always as simple as "rape is rape". Rape is commonly used as a weapon in civil wars drawn on ethnic lines, i.e. the idea is raping the women of your enemies will "de-purify" them and advance your side's ethnicity. This happened in Rwanda, the Congo and Bosnia. It's definitely a case that rape can be used in a racist way and it's not always as simple as controlling the person.

    Hey Steo, wanna advance our ethnicity later?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭parrai


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Animals dont commit rape.

    Fair play, you are dead right.... vicious mindless cnuts to do that to ANY 16 year old child... ruin the start of her life...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Animals dont commit rape.

    Ducks, geese, bottlenose dolphins and chimpanzees do


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 160 ✭✭My_left_leg


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Animals dont commit rape.

    WRONG!

    Rats & Chimps have been known to practise rape as a means of enforcing dominance in a social group.

    Ask a blond (male/female) to walk down Johannesburg in the wee hours if you don't believe me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Rape is rape.

    Why draw a distinction? Women and girls of all backgrounds are assaulted in this manner and I see no reason why her racial background has been brought into this.

    Rape should be treated with the same severity as murder regardless of the victims background

    I was thinking that exact same thing! Thing is though, if it was the other way around there would be MURDER, and the headlines would be screaming for it!

    Poor girl, hope she's getting all the help she's gonna need!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Geekness1234


    bbam wrote: »
    It should be but unfortunately in this country that means being pampered in relative luxury at the expense of the tax payer...

    My idea of an appropriate punishment would involve a 6 x 6 cell, window would be optional (but would replace the need for a light), chair, mattress and a ****ter in the corner...

    No.. books, tv, phone, drugs, family contact, x-box, play station, fresh air, strolls round Dublin, Christmas days out...

    I think we should be looking at a decent deterrent rather than rehabilitation..

    Assholes would quickly realise that being locked up would MEAN being locked up and they would fear being caught..
    Here we go,another "reform the prison system" post.
    These posts hijack every thread about crime in general.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    bbam wrote: »
    It should be but unfortunately in this country that means being pampered in relative luxury at the expense of the tax payer...

    My idea of an appropriate punishment would involve a 6 x 6 cell, window would be optional (but would replace the need for a light), chair, mattress and a ****ter in the corner...

    No.. books, tv, phone, drugs, family contact, x-box, play station, fresh air, strolls round Dublin, Christmas days out...

    I think we should be looking at a decent deterrent rather than rehabilitation..

    Assholes would quickly realise that being locked up would MEAN being locked up and they would fear being caught..

    The punishment should fit the crime.

    Rape will change a victims life to varying degrees. Depending on the victim of course and I dare say that each case is different but no other crime apart from the obvious effects of murder and manslaughter have the power to ruin someones life like rape does.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    RachaelVO wrote: »
    I was thinking that exact same thing! Thing is though, if it was the other way around there would be MURDER, and the headlines would be screaming for it!

    Poor girl, hope she's getting all the help she's gonna need!

    That says more about the people reacting than anything else


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,530 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Degsy wrote: »
    But you will anyway...
    The second part of my post isn't my take on the first part. I was merely pointing out that in some instances of rape, the ethnicity of the person can be a factor. In this case, it might be, it might not.

    But it definitely was a factor for the Serbs raping Bosnian Muslims in the early 90's, for one example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    Siuin wrote: »
    Ducks, geese, bottlenose dolphins and chimpanzees do

    They use it differently though. Its mostl touching genitals as a form of social interaction and a way of keeping the group (pack, school, gaggle, flock whatever you want to call it) close so they will come together against an attacker. (and other reasons I'm sure)

    Seen some mad documentarys on it. It's particularly common in the monkeys and dophins


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    You need to watch National Geographic more.

    Yeah. I must tune in for the next instalment of Johnannesburg rat rape


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    KINGVictor wrote: »
    Yeah you are correct but I wonder if the response would have been measured if it was 4 Nigerian men that raped an Irish girl...

    No that would be used as proof that Nigerians are all animals. :rolleyes:


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