Taxi Driver fights for life after Dublin city attack [died today]

Crazy Horse 6 · 24-11-2011 02:13PM

stomprockin wrote: »

I heard 5 lads flagged a Taxi down on Pearse street. they all jumped in, taxi drove 20 feet and stopped when the driver realized he had 5 passengers.
The driver asked for one to get out or all get out and he also wanted his fare (for driving 20 feet) the lads told him to get stuffed and they all proceeded to leave the Taxi.The driver got out of the Taxi looking for his fare and grabbed one of the guys who pushed him, he fell and banged his head, and has since died (RIP) .

Thats what is being reported alright. A tragic accident.

StephenHendry · 24-11-2011 02:59PM

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

Thats what is being reported alright. A tragic accident.

goes to show that the media can get it very wrong and report stuff without the full facts. I hope it was this , an accidental death rather than a racist attack. a few months ago the herald did a report of a gay guy attacked in a fast food outlet but it turns out the person in question ( the gay guy) provoked the other 2 people involved in the 'assault' and that he wasn't attacked because he was gay but that he kept hassling the other 2 people involved in the incident.

Nervous Wreck · 24-11-2011 03:24PM

StephenHendry wrote: »

goes to show that the media can get it very wrong and report stuff without the full facts. I hope it was this , an accidental death rather than a racist attack. a few months ago the herald did a report of a gay guy attacked in a fast food outlet but it turns out the person in question ( the gay guy) provoked the other 2 people involved in the 'assault' and that he wasn't attacked because he was gay but that he kept hassling the other 2 people involved in the incident.

In fairness, there was never anything other than vague and reactionary supposition to indicate that it was a race attack. It was reported from that start that it was believed to be an argument over a fare. People jump to conclusions like this and, in doing so, could really damage more lives.

This is a general comment btw and not entirely directed at you StephenHendry.

Lollipops23 · 24-11-2011 03:25PM

ojola wrote: »

let us not jump the gun here. whatever happened is still being investigated.

That's why I said it "appears". I feel terrible for his family, terribly sad and unnecessary waste of life either way.

mikom · 24-11-2011 03:27PM

stomprockin wrote: »

I heard 5 lads flagged a Taxi down on Pearse street. they all jumped in, taxi drove 20 feet and stopped when the driver realized he had 5 passengers.
The driver asked for one to get out or all get out and he also wanted his fare (for driving 20 feet) the lads told him to get stuffed and they all proceeded to leave the Taxi.The driver got out of the Taxi looking for his fare and grabbed one of the guys who pushed him, he fell and banged his head, and has since died (RIP) .

The racism roarers are going to be very disappointed if that's the case.
Nothing to do for the rest of the day.

mattjack · 24-11-2011 04:40PM

mikom wrote: »

The racism roarers are going to be very disappointed if that's the case.
Nothing to do for the rest of the day.

so are those who blamed drug addicts / Trinity court clients , Gardai who didnt move drug addicts on ,the general Pearse st area etc

dsmythy · 24-11-2011 04:48PM

Still the potential for a manslaughter charge.

StephenHendry · 24-11-2011 05:00PM

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

In fairness, there was never anything other than vague and reactionary supposition to indicate that it was a race attack. It was reported from that start that it was believed to be an argument over a fare. People jump to conclusions like this and, in doing so, could really damage more lives.

This is a general comment btw and not entirely directed at you StephenHendry.

i understand , no probs mate

Oranage2 · 24-11-2011 05:11PM

Very sad news indeed but if any light can shine through the tunnel is that hopefully it wasnt a racist attack.

I'll admit when I first heard it I was expecting racist thuggery at play and I was fearing for society if that was the case and how cheap life is to some scum but after hearing reports I'm slightly relieved.

Though this sad story makes me ask myself questions such as:

- Should Taxi men/women be allowed carry mace?
- Is it part of the job?
- What was the taxi man doing chasing down 5 lads for a 200 feet fair?

Terrible news though and may God have mecy on his family and perpetrator.

My_left_leg · 24-11-2011 05:13PM

the amount of times i've gotten into taxis driven by foreigners (mainly Nigerians/black Africans) and to be honest they don't seem to have a clue where they are going. this could be a deliberate attempt to screw me, or it could simply be ignorance.

either way it is extremely annoying, as i the passenger has to pay for their stupidity. i can see how this could lead to arguments. thankfully i'm a pretty patient guy, but if you got a drunken/stoned hothead in the cab the results are gonna be violent.

(btw i've also been "misdirected" by irish taxi drivers, but on a very rare occasion).

yosser hughes · 24-11-2011 05:14PM

Pdfile wrote: »

and people think pearse/townsend st area is nice...

Flith !

Do they?I have never heard anybody describe that area as nice.
Shed loads of knackers living in the flats there. gangs of kids wandering around at all hours of the day and night,very often hassling people on the street. I have witnessed this several times.
On another note what on earth was the driver doing asking to be paid for driving 20 yards. That is silly. Loads of CCTV aroun there so I reckon the whole thing will be recorded.
Manslaughter is the likely outcome. If even that.

ojola · 24-11-2011 05:19PM

Guys until we get the PM result nobody can claim to know what transpired that led to the death of this poor man. Was it a punch, a savage punch, a cosh or a hammer the post motem result will tell.

homerjay2005 · 24-11-2011 05:20PM

tragic story for all concerned, if a poor man lost his life over something so simple, then its awful to think about it.

likewise, for the others involved, they have to live with this for the rest of their lives.

may he rest in peace and if this wasnt an accident, then i hope justice is served. either way, i think the truth will come out eventually. would be a shame for this to have happened for the sake of 5euro.

My_left_leg · 24-11-2011 05:26PM

fights/arguments can start over the daftest of "issues".

i was at a do recently where there was a free bar all night. no problem just go to the bar and order whatever you want. 2 guys from our office started punching the heads off one another 'cos 1 guy accused the other guy of "stealing" his drink. (both culprits were Irish). Oh how we laughed on Monday!:D

Dyr · 24-11-2011 05:29PM

ojola wrote: »

Was it a punch, a savage punch, a cosh or a hammer the post motem result will tell.

I doubt it greatly

homerjay2005 · 24-11-2011 05:31PM

why is racism always mentioned when somebody non irish dies?

how do the people writing these articles/posts know for sure for example, the people involved were irish for example?

really gets me that the racism card is played, without any evidence to back it up.

Ellis Dee · 24-11-2011 05:51PM

Some posters here seem to be much better informed (in their own estimation at least) about the details of this tragic incident than the rest of us can read in the media. This is the latest I could find (on the RTE news web site):

"A 41-year-old taxi driver who was injured in an incident on Dublin's Pearse Street early on Monday morning has died today.

The man was pronounced dead at St James's Hospital this afternoon.

A man in his 20s, who was arrested in connection with the incident, has been released without charge.

A file is being prepared for the Director of Public Prosecutions.

The taxi driver was attacked by a man near the junction of Erne Street.

The man then left the scene and walked in the direction of Erne Street. "

Perhaps those who have been posting details of how the taxi driver allegedly threatened the passenger with a cosh, etc., etc., etc., would care to tell us their source?

I doubt that a member of the Garda would leak such information.

Also, if the young man who has been arrested was acting in self-defence - and especially if there were any witnesses - why did he leave the scene?

Belly_Dancer · 24-11-2011 05:53PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

why is racism always mentioned when somebody non irish dies?

how do the people writing these articles/posts know for sure for example, the people involved were irish for example?

really gets me that the racism card is played, without any evidence to back it up.

Totally agree HomerJay!
This attack is deeply regretable, but has nothing to do with race.
Some foreigner/Eastern European allegedly killed and chucked 2 blokes (1 Irish, 1 English) in a river in Bandon.
Should we classify that as a racist killing?

I know this will disappoint the PC crowd, but heck ......

Belly_Dancer · 24-11-2011 05:56PM

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Some posters here seem to be much better informed (in their own estimation at least) about the details of this tragic incident than the rest of us can read in the media. This is the latest I could find (on the RTE news web site):

"A 41-year-old taxi driver who was injured in an incident on Dublin's Pearse Street early on Monday morning has died today.

The man was pronounced dead at St James's Hospital this afternoon.

A man in his 20s, who was arrested in connection with the incident, has been released without charge.

A file is being prepared for the Director of Public Prosecutions.

The taxi driver was attacked by a man near the junction of Erne Street.

The man then left the scene and walked in the direction of Erne Street. "

Perhaps those who have been posting details of how the taxi driver allegedly threatened the passenger with a cosh, etc., etc., etc., would care to tell us their source?

I doubt that a member of the Garda would leak such information.

Also, if the young man who has been arrested was acting in self-defence - and especially if there were any witnesses - why did he leave the scene?

The reason he left the scene may be to get home, as this was his initial intention I presume. Just because he may have acted in self-defence does not negate that intention.

DamoNolan · 24-11-2011 05:56PM

i heard on the radio that they were fighting over the fare and that the taxi driver hit the fella and then the fella hit him back and he fell and hit his head and then he walked off..after he hit his head he got bck up tho..thats what i heard on the radio..

Ellis Dee · 24-11-2011 06:01PM

Belly_Dancer wrote: »

The reason he left the scene may be to get home, as this was his initial intention I presume. Just because he may have acted in self-defence does not negate that intention.

What about calling an ambulance for the stricken man, or the Gardai, or both?

Just asking, like.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Belly_Dancer · 24-11-2011 06:12PM

Ellis Dee wrote: »

What about calling an ambulance for the stricken man, or the Gardai, or both?

Just asking, like.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Well as the previous poster claims, if allegedly the taxi overcharged me, and then proceeded to assault me I wouldn't be a particularly charitable mood. Would you?

I know the right thing to do would be to not get involved in an argument in the first place, and just give him his fare but some folk get pretty heated if they perceive themselves to be ripped off.

My_left_leg · 24-11-2011 06:16PM

Belly_Dancer wrote: »

Well as the previous poster claims, if allegedly the taxi overcharged me, and then proceeded to assault me I wouldn't be a particularly charitable mood. Would you?

I know the right thing to do would be to not get involved in an argument in the first place, and just give him his fare but some folk get pretty heated if they perceive themselves to be ripped off.

Well i can tell ya if some bloody foreigner attempted to rip me off, and then attacked me i would not walk away!
They must think we're feckin eejits!

thegreengoblin · 24-11-2011 06:44PM

My_left_leg wrote: »

Well i can tell ya if some bloody foreigner attempted to rip me off, and then attacked me i would not walk away!
They must think we're feckin eejits!

I reckon they think you're a feckin eejit for a start.

So what would you do if some bloody Irish person tried to rip you off?

My_left_leg · 24-11-2011 06:50PM

thegreengoblin wrote: »

I reckon they think you're a feckin eejit for a start.

So what would you do if some bloody Irish person tried to rip you off?

i would react in exactly the same way.
i don't believe in getting all PC when i am about to beat the crap outta some scammer.:D

thegreengoblin · 24-11-2011 06:55PM

My_left_leg wrote: »

i would react in exactly the same way.
i don't believe in getting all PC when i am about to beat the crap outta some scammer.:D

Well, you're being ripped off left, right and centre in this country so you must be tired from all that beating up you do.

My_left_leg · 24-11-2011 07:17PM

thegreengoblin wrote: »

Well, you're being ripped off left, right and centre in this country so you must be tired from all that beating up you do.

if i'm being scammed i'll let 'em know about it for sure. and if the person proceeded to attack me, then most definitely i would defend myself.

unlike many of us Irish i wont be thinking "oooh! i mustn't offend these poor people who have come from Africa, because God Bless 'em they need the money, and things are so bad in their own country & we are so lucky to be white and living here".

SCREW THAT!:D

mattjack · 24-11-2011 07:32PM

My_left_leg wrote: »

if i'm being scammed i'll let 'em know about it for sure. and if the person proceeded to attack me, then most definitely i would defend myself.

unlike many of us Irish i wont be thinking "oooh! i mustn't offend these poor people who have come from Africa, because God Bless 'em they need the money, and things are so bad in their own country & we are so lucky to be white and living here".

SCREW THAT!:D

have you finished your homework yet ?

Belly_Dancer · 24-11-2011 07:38PM

My_left_leg wrote: »

if i'm being scammed i'll let 'em know about it for sure. and if the person proceeded to attack me, then most definitely i would defend myself.

unlike many of us Irish i wont be thinking "oooh! i mustn't offend these poor people who have come from Africa, because God Bless 'em they need the money, and things are so bad in their own country & we are so lucky to be white and living here".

SCREW THAT!:D

that's whats wrong with this country. We all seem to so afraid of offending these foreigners (oops! sorry ethnic minorities). England made exactly that mistake and now look at it. You cant look sideways at one of them or they'll accuse you of being a racist.

Stinicker · 24-11-2011 07:39PM

My_left_leg wrote: »

if i'm being scammed i'll let 'em know about it for sure. and if the person proceeded to attack me, then most definitely i would defend myself.

unlike many of us Irish i wont be thinking "oooh! i mustn't offend these poor people who have come from Africa, because God Bless 'em they need the money, and things are so bad in their own country & we are so lucky to be white and living here".

SCREW THAT!:D

Well it seems the chaps nationality or race is totally unimportant here and hopefully there was nothing racial about it. If it was an Irish taxi driver the same thing could have happened.

If there was a row over a fare aggression then surely the CCTV if there was any will provide a true picture of what happened and the coroners would know if the guy was assaulted or fell etc.

It does say in the news reports that Gardai arrested a chap in a pub a while late, so you'd be hoping they done the right thing and called paramedics and guards, because if a person assaulted me I'd ring the guards on them and if I saw someone falling knocking themselves out I'd call them an ambulance or doctor.

It looks like a tragic disaster for all involved

Taxi Driver fights for life after Dublin city attack [died today]

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