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Afghan woman offered jail release if she will marry rapist...

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  • #32
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    In Ireland, the Catholic Church reigned over years of terror & sexual abuse of children & then covered it up.

    Then they got the government to protect them by limiting the amount of compensation they had to pay to it's abuse victims. And these days, they are still allowed to run the majority of schools in the country.

    Now, while what happens in other parts of the world might be "fucking backwards & retarded", people who live in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones.

    Hard to credit you actually posted that - and are comparing the two. This woman was raped, then jailed for being raped, and then offered a 'deal' to release her if she married her rapist. The Catholic Church pales in comparison.


  • #33
    Bullseye1
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    They always condemn these? What are you talking about :D


  • #34
    Dudess
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    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Dudess wrote: »
    Bet plenty of Muslims would condemn this - you only hear about the bad ones though.

    Hmmm. But I don't see the Muslim/Islam supporters rushing on here to condemn it though. And in fairness 'bad' doesn't even BEGIN to describe this act of savagery.
    Not being a fan of all Muslims being pigeonholed as fanatics is not the same as being an Islam supporter - and you can be sure such people would certainly condemn this.


  • #35
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Dudess wrote: »
    Simple really Fred. Reprehensible as this is, it simply isn't representative of all Islam.

    There are moderate Muslims who get abuse since 9/11 and that's wrong too.

    D, I'm very surprised at that reply. This savagery is beyond belief. Do you condemn it unequivocally?


  • #36
    Latchy
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    Norwayviking wrote: »

    I dont think they really care where they are:mad:
    A rape is a rape regardless of which country it's carried out in and it's ****ing gallling and mad that this seems lost on these ''westernised '' Packistanis :mad:


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  • #37
    AgileMyth
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    Dean09 wrote: »
    That may be true but religion for the most part seems to keep the majority of believers on the straight and narrow, whereas the islamic religion is fúcked up at the best of times.
    The catholic church is a fairly twisted organisation itself. Every religion has bad people associated with it. It just happens that the worlds Islamic community is very large in numbers. Being somewhat removed from their communities we tend to hear only of the extreme cases.


  • #38
    Bullseye1
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    We do tend to hear quite a lot about women who are rapped being threaded appallingly in these countries. This is not an isolated case. And it should be reported everytime it happens.


  • #39
    Dudess
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    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Dudess wrote: »
    Simple really Fred. Reprehensible as this is, it simply isn't representative of all Islam.

    There are moderate Muslims who get abuse since 9/11 and that's wrong too.

    D, I'm very surprised at that reply. This savagery is beyond belief. Do you condemn it unequivocally?
    Of course I do - it's utterly depraved. But it's incorrect to say Islam is like this across the board and by that token all Muslims would endorse it. Moderate Muslims find it vile too - I personally know some who do.


  • #40
    Saul Goodman
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    Taliyah Mealy Sunstroke wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065301/Afghan-woman-jailed-raped-cousins-husband-offered-release-marries-attacker.html

    That'll make for an interesting 'how I met your mother' conversation....


    wouldnt take any notice of a country where men can have as many wives they wish and treat wimmins like stray dogs


  • #41
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    D, I'm very surprised at that reply. This savagery is beyond belief. Do you condemn it unequivocally?

    Actually, I agree with her. My first thought was 'madness', and I didn't want to hear any more of it -ignorance on my own part.

    You couldn't possibly tar an entire religion with the same brush. While aspects of the religion is just unfathomable to us, there are many within the religion that don't feel it's right either.

    Your disapproval of her comment is highly exaggerated in my opinion, and you're not really seeing what she is saying to you. They don't all believe that this is fair, and have their objections to this.


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  • #42
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    AgileMyth wrote: »
    The catholic church is a fairly twisted organisation itself. Every religion has bad people associated with it. It just happens that the worlds Islamic community is very large in numbers. Being somewhat removed from their communities we tend to hear only of the extreme cases.

    This is the 21st Century. There are no excuses. You start by condemning the Catholic Church and then trying to rationalise what happened to this lady by quoting it as 'an extreme case'. Nice.


  • #43
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Abi wrote: »
    Actually, I agree with her. My first thought was 'madness', and I didn't want to hear any more of it -ignorance on my own part.

    You couldn't possibly tar an entire religion with the same brush. While aspects of the religion is just unfathomable to us, there are many within the religion that don't feel it's right either.

    Your disapproval of her comment is highly exaggerated in my opinion, and you're not really seeing what she is saying to you. They don't all believe that this is fair, and have their objections to this.

    I'll ask you the same then. Do you condemn this unequivocally?


  • #44
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Abi wrote: »
    Actually, I agree with her. My first thought was 'madness', and I didn't want to hear any more of it -ignorance on my own part.

    You couldn't possibly tar an entire religion with the same brush. While aspects of the religion is just unfathomable to us, there are many within the religion that don't feel it's right either.

    Your disapproval of her comment is highly exaggerated in my opinion, and you're not really seeing what she is saying to you. They don't all believe that this is fair, and have their objections to this.

    I'll ask you the same then. Do you condemn this unequivocally?
    Of course she does - she said it a few times. Only a complete nutter would condone it. I don't understand how you equate "Not all Muslims agree with this" to approval of it. If anything, Muslims themselves condemning it just further reinforces how horrific it is.


  • #45
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Dudess wrote: »
    Of course I do - it's utterly depraved. But it's incorrect to say Islam is like this across the board and by that token all Muslims would endorse it. Moderate Muslims find it vile too - I personally know some who do.

    No doubt. I wouldn't expect any less. But, in reality, there are so many of these cases now beginning to surface (and all purportedly based on the "religion" that is Islam) that it will be hard to stem the tide. It is a "religion" that belongs in the Middle Ages - not the 21st Century.


  • #46
    Abi
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    Freddie59 wrote: »
    I'll ask you the same then. Do you condemn this unequivocally?
    I don't mean to be rude, but have you actually read anything myself or Dudess said? If you did I'm sure you would know our standing on this.


  • #47
    Abi
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    Freddie59 wrote: »
    No doubt. I wouldn't expect any less. But, in reality, there are so many of these cases now beginning to surface (and all purportedly based on the "religion" that is Islam) that it will be hard to stem the tide. It is a "religion" that belongs in the Middle Ages - not the 21st Century.

    That is just an unfathomably blinkered view, and it I actually don't know how to follow up from it. All I have is a visual of a very tarry brush.


  • #48
    MagicSean
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    Muslim laws are so ****ed up. Anyone else remember the outcry when the gardai made the rape joke about the hippy? Kind of puts stupid things like that in perspective. It's difficult to believe there are such backward countries out there.


  • #49
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Abi wrote: »
    That is just an unfathomably blinkered view, and it I actually don't know how to follow up from it. All I have is a visual of a very tarry brush.

    From YOUR perspective.


  • #50
    Shattered Dreamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭Shattered Dreamer


    I agreed we can't tarnish every Muslim with the same brush but what do you expect from people who follow a believe system written in the Middle Ages, one of the most violent times in human history. But then again Christians aren't much better.


  • #51
    Pdfile
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    its o nthe daily mail...


    Lies op, lies.


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  • #52
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Shattered Dreamer wrote: »
    I agreed we can't tarnish every Muslim with the same brush but what do you expect from people who follow a believe system written in the Middle Ages, one of the most violent times in human history. But then again Christians aren't much better.

    How so? Last time I looked, my wife wasn't treated as property by me, and our two adult daughters lived a very free and unfettered lifestyle, answerable to nobody except themselves. Yeah, Christians have it bad alright.:rolleyes:


  • #53
    Shattered Dreamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭Shattered Dreamer


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    How so? Last time I looked, my wife wasn't treated as property by me, and our two adult daughters lived a very free and unfettered lifestyle, answerable to nobody except themselves. Yeah, Christians have it bad alright.:rolleyes:

    Well for one the Catholic church protects paedophiles within it's own organization. Not to mention in term of history as many if not more people have been killed in the name of the Christian religion, ever heard of the Crusades by any chance? But I suppose you tend to ignore all this stuff like most Irish Catholics are indoctrinated into doing:rolleyes::pac:

    My major problem with Muslims is the way they immigrate to other countries & then refuse to mix & take on the customs of that country. In most towns & cities where there is a sizeable group of them they live in closed communities refusing to mix. This is ridiculous because if any of us lived in an Islam state such behaviour wouldn't be tolerated.


  • #54
    smash
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    Jesus reading that article made me feel sick. What a bunch of backwards fcukwits.


  • #55
    stargazer 68
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,212 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    Shattered Dreamer wrote: »
    Well for one the Catholic church protects paedophiles within it's own organization.

    My major problem with Muslims is the way they immigrate to other countries & then refuse to mix & take on the customs of that country. In most towns & cities where there is a sizeable group of them they live in closed communities refusing to mix. This is ridiculous because if any of us lived in an Islam state such behaviour wouldn't be tolerated.


    I agree with your first paragraph however the 2nd one is not quite true. Having lived in several Islamic states for nearly 15 years I can categorically say that the majority of people do not mix and take on the customs. Some do - as do some Muslims in non Islamic states. But brewing your own alcohol in Saudi and Kuwait despite the fact that it is illegal and against their customs is the norm for Westerners as one example.


  • #56
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Shattered Dreamer wrote: »
    Well for one the Catholic church protects paedophiles within it's own organization. Not to mention in term of history as many if not more people have been killed in the name of the Christian religion, ever heard of the Crusades by any chance? But I suppose you tend to ignore all this stuff like most Irish Catholics are indoctrinated into doing:rolleyes::pac:
    Yes they have and they do. And it is equally inexcusable. Glad to see you mentioned the Crusades - something that belongs in the Middle Ages - along with the Islamic "religion". I see you have not condemned the actions in this case in your rush to judge the Catholic Church. Well done.:rolleyes: I take it you are neither married nor have children?

    Shattered Dreamer wrote: »
    My major problem with Muslims is the way they immigrate to other countries & then refuse to mix & take on the customs of that country. In most towns & cities where there is a sizeable group of them they live in closed communities refusing to mix. This is ridiculous because if any of us lived in an Islam state such behaviour wouldn't be tolerated.

    It would make you wonder why.


  • #57
    ForgottenCandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 ✭ForgottenCandy


    Fromthetrees wrote: »
    Ahh, Islam, the religion of peace......:rolleyes:

    Lol. One of the most peace-loving religion out there if you ask me.


  • #58
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Ah great, another thread about Islam where anyone who points out the simple fact that not all Muslims would support this disgusting behaviour is branded as a supporter of rape and the treatment of women as property by Freddie59.

    Another day in AH, then.


  • #59
    Raging_Ninja
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    Its part of their culture and we should respect it.


  • #60
    ejmaztec
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    Raging_Ninja wrote: »
    Its part of their culture and we should respect it.

    It might be part of their culture, but no-one in their right mind would respect it.


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  • #61
    Farold
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭Farold


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Hard to credit you actually posted that - and are comparing the two. This woman was raped, then jailed for being raped, and then offered a 'deal' to release her if she married her rapist. The Catholic Church pales in comparison.

    Does it? I mean the Catholic church knowingly allowed priests to operate who were raping children and then when things got too hot they simply moved them to other churches knowing that they would probably rape other children.

    Similarly, before people blame Islam they might want to see what people are doing in the name of christianity in Africa. Its a combination of poverty and a lack of education that turns people barbaric, not religion.

    Muslim autocracies don't want their people educated because it threatens their power. Thats why even rich Muslim countries prioritize religious education rather than actual education. If you learn nothing but the LITERAL interpretation of the Koran then your going to carry it out exactly as it says. If one was to carry out the LITERAL interpretation of the bible (as is happening in parts of Africa) your going to have similar atrocities. Thankfully though, christianity is basically dead in the christian world and democracy reigns supreme.


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