Bush and Blair found guilty of genocide in war crimes tribunal..

Confab wrote: »

Um, are you aware of the USA's history of overthrowing dictators for their own convenience? If not, it makes a mockery of your post. If you are aware of it then you're a hypocrite.

Who cares why they overthrow dictators?

If Ireland was ruled by a thug like Gaddaffi would you give a flying crap why the Americans are overthrowing him? Don't you think the Libyan rebels could care less if NATO was helping them as long as somebody got their thumbs out of their bottoms and actually did something???

The Irish Volunteers bought guns from Germany so they could launch 1916 and they even included 'our gallant allies in Europe' in the 1916 Proclamation. Do you think they wanted Germany to win the war? They didn't give a damn. Before that the Irish got help from Spain and France or whoever else was prepared to help them fight British rule in Ireland.

When Connally's Irish Citizen Army joined forces with Patrick Pearse do you think he didn't know that socialism was anathema with the bourgeoise nationalism of the Irish Volunteers? But he did anyway because the common enemy was British rule.

To beat Hitler, the Western Allies made friends with Stalin.

Most of the British Army who fought Japan in Burma were Indians, many of the French troops who fought for De Gaulle against the Germans were Algerians and a lot of the French and Italian resistance who fought the Nazis were actually communists.

In the post-war period the Indians revolted against British rule, the Algerians fought against French colonialists and French and Italian communist urban guerrillas fought the French and Italian states from the 1960s to the 1980s.

If it is a war crime for Bush or Blair to do what they did in 2003 then any military assistance to any people living under oppression or any group fighting for their freedom is a war crime too. We need big states (for selfish reasons of course!) to come to the assistance of small nations.

Currently Tibetans are oppressed by China while the Burmese junta are a puppet of China. The global rivals of China are America and Europe. American and Europe political and business elites want to make troubles for Chinese political and business elites so naturally for selfish reasons they are going to back the Tibetans and Burmese opposition. Do you think the Burmese opposition care? They will worry about American and European imperialism later but first they want the Burmese junta to fall.

Similarly it was in the interests of the Soviets to support left wing movements in America who want civil rights and were opposed to American foreign policy. Do you think American left wingers were Soviet lapdogs. Not at all. McCarthy tried to paint them as communists but most left wingers simply wanted a fairer society.

I'm amazed that I have to explain this basic stuff.

You may not like Bush and Blair but what they did if it was made illegal would harm future interventions.

weisses wrote: »

Al-Qaeda was not even in Iraq before the US invaded ... So much ignorance

Have you never heard of Musab Al-Zarqawi? Syrian, Jordanian and Saudi members of Al-Qaeda and jihadists from around the world were already preparing for jihad before the invasion of Iraq.