He's right on this....."scrap the childen allowance" says O'Leary.

MidlandsM · 21-11-2011 07:40PM #1

The CEO of Ryanair Michael O'Leary has said child benefit should be scrapped.

O'Leary said it was ridiculous that he received the entitlement for his four children, given his income.

Speaking today,he said the allowance should be scrapped for everyone, even those on lower incomes.

"I think you scrap it for everybody...You need to channel children's allowance (to those who need it) through income support schemes, where you're trying to channel money to those on very low incomes," he said.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/oleary-scrap-my-childrens-allowance-scrap-everyones-529230.html#ixzz1eMnPIJfm

Stocking Drinks Whiskey · 21-11-2011 07:42PM

You don't know how much it costs to raise a child, do you?

phasers · 21-11-2011 07:43PM

I assume he donates his to a worthwhile charity so?

Saila · 21-11-2011 07:44PM

he makes a fair point tbh

Amirani · 21-11-2011 07:45PM

Stocking Drinks Whiskey wrote: »

You don't know how much it costs to raise a child, do you?

Obviously he does as he has 4 of them?

hondasam · 21-11-2011 07:45PM

It should be means tested, I would not say abolish it all together but it needs to be reduced.

Ronin247 · 21-11-2011 07:47PM

Childrens allowance shouldn't be scrapped it should be means tested.Some people need that extra income to pay for sky tv and booze and some need it to feed the kids.

Pherekydes · 21-11-2011 07:49PM

He thinks he's too rich to get it, so he thinks it should be scrapped for everyone?

He thinks he's too rich to get it, but he claims it anyway?

He probably thinks he's too rich to buy a cheap seat on his airline, but he's not agitating for cheap seats to go for everyone.

Rich right wingers always moan about excessive government-led regulation but he won't take a lead and eschew the allowance.

Hook was mentioning the free bus pass in the same vein, but there's nothing to stop him paying his busfare if he wants to.

Ouanquers like these always whine about the lack of leadership, but they won't lead by example.

Abi · 21-11-2011 07:49PM

"I think you scrap it for everybody...

Ignorant prick.

O'Leary said it was ridiculous that he received the entitlement for his four children, given his income.

You've said it pal.

Cutting it for those on low incomes is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Cutting it off for those of over a certain income bracket, I'd agree with.

Galtee · 21-11-2011 07:50PM

It's not really a fair point, it's a typical point from someone who doesn't depend on it to make life bearable. If the government were increasing airport taxes for operators he'd be up in arms over it even though he has the option (and would use it as he has done in the past) of passing it onto the consumer which isn't an option that someone who's been stripped of their allowance has. He's being his typical ignorant self in this matter tbh.

SEPT 23 1989 · 21-11-2011 07:50PM

I would like to see Mr O' Leary in charge of public sector reform

Amirani · 21-11-2011 07:51PM

phasers wrote: »

I assume he donates his to a worthwhile charity so?

Hardly an effective solution. If all high income earners decide to donate their children's allowance to a charity working in Africa then it's not of much benefit to the Irish taxpayer. His suggestion is far more sensible.

Seaneh · 21-11-2011 07:51PM

It should have a celling after which it isn't paid.
Means tested like every other benefit/allowence.

Why do Dr. Murphy and his wife, Mrs. Murphy who is principle of the local school with their joined income of well over 200k per year need it? They don't.

Where as The Browns down the road who are scraping by each month as it is, both working fulltime and barely scraping 50k between them do.

mconigol · 21-11-2011 07:52PM

Yeah all well and good in theory.

We'll still have the usual spongers taking their handouts financed by people who actually work for a living though.

Bluefox21 · 21-11-2011 07:53PM

Galtee wrote: »

It's not really a fair point, it's a typical point from someone who doesn't depend on it to make life bearable. If the government were increasing airport taxes for operators he'd be up in arms over it even though he has the option (and would use it as he has done in the past) of passing it onto the consumer which isn't an option that someone who's been stripped of their allowance has. He's being his typical ignorant self in this matter tbh.

He's identified a serious flaw in how child benefit is distributed and suggested that a fairer system should be introduced. Please identify how this is in anyway ignorant.

Seaneh · 21-11-2011 07:53PM

Just to point out, he did say the money should be channelled into other incom support schemes and still go to the less well off.

The man wasn't sitting there with his wads of cash saying "sure **** the poor, let them starve" he give a genuine and possibly workable answer to what an obvious flaw.

pragmatic1 · 21-11-2011 07:54PM

Every benefit should be means tested. Its a no brainer.

geetar · 21-11-2011 07:55PM

Abi wrote: »

Ignorant prick.

why dont you read next time. he wants the less well off to only recieve it. he doesnt want means testing, he wants to scrap the idea of children allowance and aid families in need through other welfare schemes that are more beneficial to both the families and the tax payer.

My name is URL · 21-11-2011 07:55PM

I wish O'Leary would either run in an election or keep his mouth shut about how the country is run. People have been saying for years that the Children's Allowance should be restricted to those that need it. It's hardly a radical new idea.. just another chance for O'Leary to see his name printed all over the place.

m.j.w · 21-11-2011 07:55PM

Seaneh wrote: »

Just to point out, he did say the money should be channelled into other incom support schemes and still go to the less well off.

The man wasn't sitting there with his wads of cash saying "sure **** the poor, let them starve" he give a genuine and possibly workable answer to what an obvious flaw.

Exactly, are people just reading the title and not the whole quote.

Irish Guitarist · 21-11-2011 07:55PM

I'd like to see how willing he would be to give it up if he was on a lower income himself.

By the way why is the CEO of Ryanair being interviewed about childrens allowance?

SEPT 23 1989 · 21-11-2011 07:55PM

He chooses to live in the state and pays roughly 14m in tax a year

He has the right to say where he thinks his money should go

Stocking Drinks Whiskey · 21-11-2011 07:56PM

niallsparky wrote: »

Obviously he does as he has 4 of them?

I was speaking to OP.

hondasam · 21-11-2011 07:57PM

The reality is no one is going to say no to money if they can get it.They have to means test it and stop wealthy people getting it.

Galtee · 21-11-2011 07:58PM

Bluefox21 wrote: »

He's identified a serious flaw in how child benefit is distributed and suggested that a fairer system should be introduced. Please identify how this is in anyway ignorant.

He's ignorant to the fact that people need it and hence scrapping it altogther and making people go through 6mths of paperwork to get it back isn't a viable solution.

mikom · 21-11-2011 07:59PM

MidlandsM wrote: »

The CEO of Ryanair Michael O'Leary has said child benefit should be scrapped.

O'Leary said it was ridiculous that he received the entitlement for his four children, given his income.

Speaking today,he said the allowance should be scrapped for everyone, even those on lower incomes.

"I think you scrap it for everybody...You need to channel children's allowance (to those who need it) through income support schemes, where you're trying to channel money to those on very low incomes," he said.

Said on the day Ryanair announces four new routes from Knock airport.

From next March, there will be over 20 flights a week to and from Milan, Paris, Frankfurt and Barcelona.
They will be the first such direct flights in and out of the Western region.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1121/ryanair_knock.html

Suckered again folks.
Too easy Michael, too easy.

Amirani · 21-11-2011 08:04PM

Stocking Drinks Whiskey wrote: »

I was speaking to OP.

The OP didn't express an opinion so it's hardly a relevant question to be asking?

westendgirlie · 21-11-2011 08:05PM

The only way you get childrens allowance is if you apply for it. Why are the rich putting their claims in if they say they don't need it?

Don't bother applying if you don't want it.

Saila · 21-11-2011 08:06PM

hondasam wrote: »

they have to means test it and stop wealthy people getting it.

thats the thing though it costs time and resources and money to do this, probably as much as they end up saving too!

like the man says take it away and make it like a community welfare allowance like payment, you have to show why you need it.

Abi · 21-11-2011 08:06PM

geetar wrote: »

why dont you read next time.

Oh I read it alright, if you don't understand my issue with it, it's not my fucking problem.

he wants the less well off to only recieve it. he doesnt want means testing, he wants to scrap the idea of children allowance and aid families in need through other welfare schemes that are more beneficial to both the families and the tax payer.

Who the fuck is he to be shouting about this shit?

Does he think he's coming up with some new radical idea about cutting CB for the better off? *slow clap* More beneficial to families my arse. Re-naming so as to leave them even further out of pocket if you ask me.

Did he hand back all the child benefit his family didn't need? I seriously doubt it. The hypocrisy is just delicious.

Storminateacup · 21-11-2011 08:06PM

Stocking Drinks Whiskey wrote: »

You don't know how much it costs to raise a child, do you?

If you can't afford to raise a child, don't have them.

He's right on this....."scrap the childen allowance" says O'Leary.

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