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Cardinal Seán Brady and his brass neck.

  • 21-11-2011 05:17PM
    #1
    RighteousDude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ✭


    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/1121/breaking45.html
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=7

    This article out of the Irish Times today. Seán Brady coming out with some incredulous stuff. The most provocative statement being , in reference to secularism in society and government,

    "This is often justified in the name of tolerance and freedom. In fact, it could hardly be more intolerant and illiberal,” he said.

    He then migrates towards the implication that we are in the mess we are in as a country because we have abandoned our Faith.

    Having said that, it is wonderful to see the fear-mongering clutches of the Catholic Church lose its grip on this once God-fearing little island.


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  • #2
    yutta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭yutta


    Ooh look, an anti-Catholic thread on AH.

    Cardinal Brady is a very wise man. An upstanding individual whose workrate men half his age would balk at.


  • #3
    TanG411
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    I thought he had a brass neck. :(


  • #4
    RighteousDude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ✭RighteousDude


    yutta wrote: »
    Ooh look, an anti-Catholic thread on AH.

    Cardinal Brady is a very wise man. An upstanding individual whose workrate men half his age would balk at.


    Ooh look a forum gimp.


  • #5
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I would pay more attention to a statement made by Ronald McDonald


  • #6
    Super-Rush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    RighteousDude wrote: »
    Ooh look a forum gimp.

    Careful now.


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  • #7
    Leftist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    yutta wrote: »
    Ooh look, an anti-Catholic thread on AH.

    Cardinal Brady is a very wise man. An upstanding individual whose workrate men half his age would balk at.

    Isn't this the sean brady of the child sex abuse cover up scandal? or is that a different one?


  • #8
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    yutta wrote: »
    Ooh look, an anti-Catholic thread on AH.

    Not, it's a reality based thread.

    Anyway, when you have an organistaion that facilitated and protected child rapists, is it any wonder there's a backlash against it? :confused:
    yutta wrote: »
    Cardinal Brady is a very wise man. An upstanding individual whose workrate men half his age would balk at.

    Go on, give us some examples....


  • #9
    TanG411
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    Maybe it's made of tungsten. . .


  • #10
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Don't care, Santy's birthday is only 5 weeks away & I'm on a high.


  • #11
    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    "Our busy culture does not leave much room for talking about God,”

    I find it more productive to talk about the economic system of the Federation in Star Trek tbh. I mean what do Starfleet officers pay their tabs with in Quarks?! How does the Federation barter with other powers? If there's no money or need for it, then why on Earth do some lads opt to spend their lives waiting tables in Sisko's??


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  • #12
    RighteousDude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ✭RighteousDude


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    I would pay more attention to a statement made by Ronald McDonald

    Well if Ronald McDonald was turning a blind eye to systematic child rape during the distribution of Happy Meals, you might get a little miffed when he started pontificating to the nation on how live life the "right way".


  • #13
    yutta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭yutta


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Not, it's a reality bassed thread.

    Anyway, when you have an organistaion that facilitated and protexted child rapists, is it any wonder there's a backlash against it? :confused:



    Go on, give us some examples....

    Well he has a litany of post-nominals after his name and is not afraid to speak up against the dangers of same-sex unions, abortion and contraception. His publication track-record is second to none, having written over a hundred articles and several books.


  • #14
    texidub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭texidub


    Brass neck you say? Off with his head so -I could do with a new brass knocker on the front door.


  • #15
    Gee Bag
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    It should be a matter of deep concern to all people of faith that an "easy disregard" for the religious faith of so many citizens holds increasing sway on this island, the Catholic primate Cardinal Sean Brady has said.

    It mirrors the RC churches "easy disregard" for the sexual abuse of children


  • #16
    yutta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭yutta


    c_man wrote: »
    I find it more productive to talk about the economic system of the Federation in Star Trek tbh. I mean what do Starfleet officers pay their tabs with in Quarks?! How does the Federation barter with other powers? If there's no money or need for it, then why on Earth do some lads opt to spend their lives waiting tables in Sisko's??

    Dr Brady has lots to say on economic issues too: "On 13 August 2009, Brady suggested that, with confidence in commercial banks declining, the time may have come for economists to take the lead in developing credit union-type institutions. These would focus on systems of lending, saving and insurance built on an ethic of authentic human development, the cardinal stated at the opening of the national novena in Knock Shrine, Co Mayo. He noted that "Such initiatives would certainly increase the hope of a more humane and ethically robust economy." One such initiative was the credit union movement. Another was the Knights of Columbus ethical investment programme." (Wikipedia)


  • #17
    Ghandee
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    El Pistolero wrote: »
    Careful now.

    Down with that sort of thing!


  • #18
    Unavailable for Comment
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Unavailable for Comment


    Cardinal Brady wrote: »
    "there is kind of deafness or blindness" about much of modern life.

    Kind of deafness and blindness about years of institutional child abuse too.


  • #19
    Leftist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    yutta wrote: »
    Well he has a litany of post-nominals after his name and is not afraid to speak up against the dangers of same-sex unions, abortion and contraception. His publication track-record is second to none, having written over a hundred articles and several books.

    Took me a minute to stop laughing at this, just for a laugh, what are the dangers of contraception?


  • #20
    Gee Bag
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    yutta wrote: »
    not afraid to speak up against the dangers of .................. contraception.

    It's a little known fact that contraception gives you AIDS


  • #21
    Snakeblood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Gee Bag wrote: »
    It mirrors the RC churches "easy disregard" for the sexual abuse of children

    Be fair, it's not like he was personally involved in swearing abused children to secrecy in 1975 to protect noted and prolific paedophile Brendan Smyth which allowed him to abuse again and again.


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  • #22
    MonkeyTennis
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    I could write a hundred articles if I was making them all up too.


  • #23
    c_man
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    yutta wrote: »
    Dr Brady has lots to say on economic issues too: "On 13 August 2009, Brady suggested that, with confidence in commercial banks declining, the time may have come for economists to take the lead in developing credit union-type institutions. These would focus on systems of lending, saving and insurance built on an ethic of authentic human development, the cardinal stated at the opening of the national novena in Knock Shrine, Co Mayo. He noted that "Such initiatives would certainly increase the hope of a more humane and ethically robust economy." One such initiative was the credit union movement. Another was the Knights of Columbus ethical investment programme." (Wikipedia)

    Has he published any Star Trek books though?


  • #24
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    yutta wrote: »
    Cardinal Brady is a very wise man.
    Speaking in St Patrick’s College Maynooth, Dr Brady said this disregard is increasingly being expressed in a form of secularism which says religion is fine so long as it keeps to its place as a private belief and does not intrude into the public arena or a person’s approach to their civic duties.
    I'm struggling to see why he considers this a problem.

    If we tolerate people basing their approach to their civic duties on whatever is it that they believe, then we allow for all sorts of moral and ethical wrongs to be committed, whether that's a Muslim Garda turning a blind eye to a man beating his wife or a Catholic teacher refusing to educate a child born out of wedlock.

    The only truely honest and just way to operate as a society is to interact with eachother using unbiased and rational guidelines on which we can all agree, and not according to whatever irrational nonsense we've decided is correct.
    An upstanding individual whose workrate men half his age would balk at.
    Urge to Godwin....rising.

    He works hard. So what? Working hard doesn't make you smart, honest, honourable, respectable or important.


  • #25
    yutta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭yutta


    Unavailable for Comment wrote: »
    Kind of deafness and blindness about years of institutional child abuse too.

    There was no actus reus or mens rea on the part of Cardinal Brady in matters pertaining to child sexual abuse. To insinuate that he had any role to play in exposing a child to a sexual predator is nothing short of defamatory.

    If you're so confident in your libel, answer these questions:

    What crime did he commit?
    Who was the victim?
    When did the crime take place?
    Why don't you go down to your local Garda station with the information that you have and report him?


  • #26
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    ...courage to bring their Christian faith with them into the cabinet room...

    I agree, we need more people like Gay Mitchell and Dana. I think the public agree with me too :pac:


  • #27
    Unavailable for Comment
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    texidub wrote: »
    Brass neck you say? Off with his head so -I could do with a new brass knocker on the front door.

    Nah he'd be no use for that. Anyone trying to get a hold of you through him would only get lies and mistruths about your whereabouts.


  • #28
    Ostrom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Ostrom


    yutta wrote: »
    ...is not afraid to speak up against the dangers of same-sex unions, abortion and contraception

    What might those be?


  • #29
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Leftist wrote: »
    Took me a minute to stop laughing at this, just for a laugh, what are the dangers of contraception?

    condoms burst and then you die of a sudden cocaine overdose.


  • #30
    Snakeblood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    efla wrote: »
    What might those be?

    No babies, and babies.


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  • #31
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Leftist wrote: »
    Took me a minute to stop laughing at this, just for a laugh, what are the dangers of contraception?
    Sperm killer! You probably think masturbation is ok too. Enjoy hell


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