irish people criticizing irish americans

phasers · 19-11-2011 12:39AM

Deal With It.

woodoo · 19-11-2011 12:40AM

Kiera wrote: »

*wush* that went over your head didnt it?

No

foxinsox · 19-11-2011 12:43AM

Lemmewinks wrote: »

Solid theory there - no holes at all. Would stand up to any sample case or scrutiny.

Man left Africa around 70,000 years ago.

Pangea existed around 250 million years ago.

You may have a slight discrepancy with the numbers there. 70,000 years ago, the continents were in almost the exact position they're in now. In fact, 13,000 years ago Ireland was covered in ice, so it was after that when man finally made it to northern Europe. But yeah; 250 million, or 13,000 years - all the same, eh?

ok ok.. I didn't mention figures

I can't remember details, but I have a vague recollection of seeing a documentary showing a red line highlighting where people migrated from the continent of Africa.. maybe it meant they made it to Northern Europe etc. I didn't necessarily mean they walked to Ireland, or into town

I should have taken more time researching facts before posting, but hey it's late. so apologies to anyone I have upset by vaguely suggesting that man walked from Africa to Ireland..

Anyways, ye get the jist of what I'm saying..

* sulks off back to kitchen *

Lemmewinks · 19-11-2011 12:46AM

foxinsox wrote: »

ok ok.. I didn't mention figures

I can't remember details, but I have a vague recollection of seeing a documentary showing a red line highlighting where people migrated from the continent of Africa.. maybe it meant they made it to Northern Europe etc. I didn't necessarily mean they walked to Ireland, or into town

I should have taken more time researching facts before posting, but hey it's late. so apologies to anyone I have upset by vaguely suggesting that man walked from Africa to Ireland..

Anyways, ye get the jist of what I'm saying..

* sulks off back to kitchen *

This is a good animation of it:

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

It even shows the ice receding, etc.

blahfckingblah · 19-11-2011 12:46AM

another melodramatic american

GhostInTheRuins · 19-11-2011 12:47AM

RMD wrote: »

I want you to go to the location where you store your passport. Now I want you to take it out and view it, what is it? It's an American passport. Is it an Irish passport? No, it's an American passport. You're an American with Irish ancestry, that is all.

I have no problem with Americans acknowledging their Irish heritage, but the Americans who insist they're Irish and pretend they know Irish culture or Ireland itself, well that gets pretty bloody irritating quickly.

Fairly sad if you define yourself by what a piece of governmental paper says.

Other than that I agree with ya.

Overheal · 19-11-2011 12:48AM

How isn't he Irish? You folks seem to be thinking of Ireland the Nationality, not Irish the race of people. You are a Race aren't you? I was pretty sure. Last I checked. Otherwise African Americans are just taking the piss right?

twistyj · 19-11-2011 12:49AM

woodoo wrote: »

Tipp doesn't have a culture and an identity like Ireland and Irish do. You don't grow up in Dublin with your Tipp roots and culture at the core.

read that back to yourself. it dosnt mean anything.

phasers · 19-11-2011 12:49AM

Sure isn't race just black white and yellow

Wibbs · 19-11-2011 12:51AM

Yep and the "original people" mixed with locals along the way, so Europeans and west Asians have Neandertal blood in the mix and east Asian folks have even more archaic human blood in them. It starts to get terribly confusing and we're barely beginning to scratch the surface. So to claim any definitive ancestry gets even more confusing and a tad daft.

EdenHazard · 19-11-2011 12:52AM

irish cant relate to this because they dont no what a multicultaral society is. im born in america to irish parents...im irish and american..lived in ireland since 6

A Primal Nut · 19-11-2011 12:53AM

MagicMarker wrote: »

So you're American.

Kiera wrote: »

You werent born here, so you're not Irish. That's like me saying i'm from Tipp cause my Mam is.... Stupidness!

So if Irish parents go on holiday who gave birth to a child while in America, then return to Ireland where the child grew up, that child is American?

That is rediculous.

If two Nigerian parents give birth to a child in Ireland, I suppose that child has no right to be called Nigerian and is instead 100% Irish, by your analysis?

I like it when Americans consider themselves proud of their Irishness a lot more than other Nationalities! Makes me proud to be Irish.

SugarCoat · 19-11-2011 12:54AM

sandmanporto you're irish.we should all be happy with the fact that people are proud to identify as irish and not start splitting hairs.I heard of lots of people who have come back to ireland to live once again after their previous relatives left and i think that's great.

mrsdewinter · 19-11-2011 12:54AM

You regard yourself as American. Irish people regard you as American.
Where's the problem?

sandmanporto · 19-11-2011 12:54AM

Kiera wrote: »

Erm? WUT?

*wush* that went over your head didnt it?

ERM ???
WUT??

fonecrusher1 · 19-11-2011 12:54AM

sandmanporto wrote: »

I am pretty sick of this. I am American by birth, and I get pretty frustrated when Irish people tell irish americans they ARE AMERICAN NOT IRISH. I would admit to my scandinavian heritage before my irish! Peace all!

Eh??? Irish? American? does it really matter?

Sick of people having a go at americans. Leave em alone.

Kiera · 19-11-2011 12:55AM

A Primal Nut wrote: »

So if Irish parents go on holiday who gave birth to a child while in America, then return to Ireland where the child grew up, that child is American?

That is rediculous.

If two Nigerian parents give birth to a child in Ireland, I suppose that child has no right to be called Nigerian, by your analysis?

I like it when Americans consider themselves proud of their Irishness a lot more than other Nationalities! Makes me proud to be Irish.

I dont think you're allowed fly when that heavily pregnant :P

woodoo · 19-11-2011 12:56AM

twistyj wrote: »

read that back to yourself. it dosnt mean anything.

There is no Tipp culture. Its hardly something you identify with if you grow up in Dublin like she did. Its just not the same as identifying with a nationality.

Kiera · 19-11-2011 12:57AM

sandmanporto wrote: »

ERM ???
WUT??

See! You dont even speak the language :P

Wibbs · 19-11-2011 12:58AM

Overheal wrote: »

How isn't he Irish? You folks seem to be thinking of Ireland the Nationality, not Irish the race of people. You are a Race aren't you? I was pretty sure. Last I checked. Otherwise African Americans are just taking the piss right?

Well.... OH "race" is a bit of a vague and slightly daft premise. Genetic populations have a little more weight, but again it's confusing. EG "Africans" encompass the largest genetic diversity on earth. Even so as a species we're very very very interrelated. One group of chimps separated by a mile of forest can be less related than all humans on earth are.

John Doe1 · 19-11-2011 12:58AM

A first generation irish kid of nigerian parents parents is 200 time more irish in my eyes than some fanny pack wearing yank

Latchy · 19-11-2011 01:10AM

Irish mother...

'' Rosin ....put that Brentwood LA / Bronx NYC accent down ...NOW :mad:

Rosin

'' Mom ...your taken the piss ''

pragmatic1 · 19-11-2011 01:14AM

Kiera wrote: »

You werent born here, so you're not Irish. That's like me saying i'm from Tipp cause my Mam is.... Stupidness!

If a pig is born in a stable does it turn into a horse? There a lot more to nationality than being born in a country.

Kiera · 19-11-2011 01:22AM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

If a pig is born in a stable does it turn into a horse? There a lot more to nationality than being born in a country.

Haha, you iz silly. We're all still humans no matter where we're born. Just not all of the same nationality. Your little barn story doesnt really make sense, its cute tho :P

pragmatic1 · 19-11-2011 01:23AM

Kiera wrote: »

Haha, you iz silly. We're all still humans no matter where we're born. Just not all of the same nationality. Your little barn story doesnt really make sense, its cute tho :P

Fanks silly.

Desire2 · 19-11-2011 01:46AM

Lemmewinks wrote: »

13,000 years ago Ireland was covered in ice,

What are You on about?
Last year Ireland was covered in Ice.:pac:

Desire2 · 19-11-2011 01:53AM

Overheal wrote: »

How isn't he Irish? You folks seem to be thinking of Ireland the Nationality, not Irish the race of people. You are a Race aren't you? I was pretty sure. Last I checked. Otherwise African Americans are just taking the piss right?

Seems like all Americans other than the native ones are taking the piss by your logic there overheal.

Overheal · 19-11-2011 01:54AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Well.... OH "race" is a bit of a vague and slightly daft premise. Genetic populations have a little more weight, but again it's confusing. EG "Africans" encompass the largest genetic diversity on earth. Even so as a species we're very very very interrelated. One group of chimps separated by a mile of forest can be less related than all humans on earth are.

Well if you want to bring Gene Pool into it, over here, I can still spot an Irish blooded person from 50 yards away, with a reasonably high level of accuracy. Hell, I just met another Moylan today.

I really don't understand why it's such a problem if such people wish to identify as Irish American. I understand Italian Americans are also pretty famous for doing this.

Seems like all Americans other than the native ones are taking the piss by your logic there overheal.

How do you reckon?

The USA is a multicultural society but it has clear genealogical divisions. It's not outlandish to identify oneself by that division anymore than one would refer to themselves both by their first name and their family name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maps_of_American_ancestries

Arianna_26 · 19-11-2011 01:56AM

sandmanporto wrote: »

I am pretty sick of this. I am American by birth, and I get pretty frustrated when Irish people tell irish americans they ARE AMERICAN NOT IRISH. I would admit to my scandinavian heritage before my irish! Peace all!

WTF! Talk about a chip on your shoulder. We don't care what you would admit to.

Mammanabammana · 19-11-2011 01:56AM

Because Americans come up with things like this.

irish people criticizing irish americans

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