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Evolution And All That Jazz

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  • #32
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    So we derived from monkeys or apes or whatever, right?

    We just dragged ourselves outta the water one day and evolved in to what we are today over millenia? We developed all sorts of technology beginning in the stone age and have gone onwards and upwards ever since.

    What about the other creatures we share this world with? Ok, giraffes developed longer necks to eat from trees and crocs developed thick skins, etc.

    Have any other animals on the planet done something similar that we're not aware of or are humans unique in their speed of evolution on this planet? Or are we merely an experiment and mice truly rule this world?
    Basically, every single living thing on this planet is your cousin.

    Ain't it cool? :cool:


  • #33
    Daithi 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Basically, every single living thing on this planet is your cousin.

    Ain't it cool? :cool:

    Even my missus ?


  • #34
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Lemmewinks wrote: »
    Yeah, you implied a limit by it's very definition. e.g. If you meant millions you would say millions. If you meant less than 100 you would say dozens, etc. If you meant thousands, you would say millennia (you spelled it wrong, BTW).

    And considering you said "we evolved from apes", it's safe to assume your grasp of how long it took was also likely to be way off.

    Oh, and you also avoided my main point which was about your sh*t grasp of evolution. Other than that, awesome reply.

    Maybe I've got a different definition of plural than you!
    Lemmewinks wrote: »
    Obvious troll is obvious.

    Hardly! How do you really know that any other species we share this planet with are not more intelligent than humans and have evolved better or more quickly than us? Because they haven't built skyscrapers, computers and rocket ships? Maybe, just maybe, they evolve in different ways and develop things we wouldn't even recognise?


  • #35
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    Even at that, who is to truly say we are more intelligent than any other animal? We have physical things we can see, methods of communication we can understand but who's to say that other creatures on this planet haven't developed better technology than humans when we can't even understand their languages let alone their development.

    Possibly true. I mean the Dolphins beat the Redskins last week.


  • #36
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    God created the world. So it was gods plan to set up a process called evolution. And here we are..


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  • #37
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Wertz wrote: »
    Ants.

    Damn communists being all successful at it.


  • #38
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    God created the world. So it was gods plan to set up a process called evolution. And here we are..

    ...but man created God.


  • #39
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    OP, is this you?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJe3L56AP54


  • #40
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    God created the world. So it was gods plan to set up a process called evolution. And here we are..

    Why would he choose such an inefficient method to get to the point where humans arose?


  • #41
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    ...but man created God.

    Let keith have his little opinion, even though I'm of the opinion that he's here to troll only, that opinion is pretty harmless. it allows children to grow up learning biology correctly.


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  • #42
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I exist.
    I have no idea why I exist, but I exist.

    I do not believe that I was created by some supreme being.
    I know for a fact that my parents has sex, and that I am the product of them having sex.

    There is absolutely no proof that a miracle created me, but there is scientific proof that I was created through a biological process.

    Speaking of scientific proof, it supercedes all mythological beliefs of Gods and stuff.

    When God appears to me and hundreds of others at the same time, I'll consider his existence. Until then I'm putting my faith in proven scientific facts.

    "I think, therefore I am." That's just crap.
    Popeye nailed it. I am what I am.


  • #43
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    I highly recomend this series of videos on Youtube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLGb1uOSHQ


  • #44
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Terry wrote: »
    I know for a fact that my parents has sex


    Pics or GTFO.


  • #45
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Pics or GTFO.
    Cameras were not invented back then.
    All I have are some paintings by DaVinci, but they're gonna cost you a few quid.


  • #46
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    amacachi wrote: »
    Why would he choose such an inefficient method to get to the point where humans arose?
    Don't know. He works in mysterious ways I suppose. ;)


  • #47
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Evolution is not inherently an "upward" movement so it's misleading to talk about it in that way.

    I'd imagine it'd be hard for any animal to evolve to sentience with us dominating the planet.

    Finally, it's the 21st century: don't we have better things to be discussing?

    We evolved from simpler lifeforms. It's pretty obvious.


  • #48
    WolfForager
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,532 ✭✭✭WolfForager


    Hold on a second...

    So some people think that evolution is less believable than the sudden existence of a single all knowingly all powerful being?

    Right.....

    http://tiny.cc/rdw5o


  • #49
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Look at all the variations of domestic dog around today.

    They're all as a result of humans selectively breeding wolves with different characteristics over mere thousands of years. A Chihuaha is a distant relative of a Great Dane.

    Is it really so hard to believe that other species on the planet could have evolved from a common ancestor, much further back, over millions of years?


  • #50
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    desertcircus wrote: »
    I'm going to learn to play the sax and call my first album Evolution And All That Jazz.

    And I shall buy that album.


  • #51
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Damn communists being all successful at it.

    As much as I like ants, they are fascist monarchists, not communists.


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  • #52
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Don't know. He works in mysterious ways I suppose. ;)

    That's not a cop out in any way, shape or form.


  • #53
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    amacachi wrote: »
    That's not a cop out in any way, shape or form.
    I know. Straight to the point.


  • #54
    Duke Leonal Felmet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Duke Leonal Felmet


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    Sir Frederick Hoyle (the British astronomer who coined the term “Big Bang” .
    The likelihood of the formation of life from inanimate matter is one to a number with 40,000 naughts after it... It is big enough to bury Darwin and the whole theory of evolution. There was no primeval soup, neither on this planet nor any other, and if the beginnings of life were not random, they must therefore have been the product of purposeful intelligence.(1981)

    What an moronically ignorant statement that is. Darwinian evolution considers the origin of species, not the origin of life.


  • #55
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    strobe wrote: »
    As much as I like ants, they are fascist monarchists, not communists.

    Really? I always looked upon the little buggers as communists.

    Moar explanation please!


  • #56
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Really? I always looked upon the little buggers as communists.

    Moar explanation please!

    The ultimate goal of communism is to lead towards a non-hierarchical society. Ant hierarchy is pretty much inalienable. Queen runs the show (monarchy) and everyone else is subservient.

    From Wikipedia: Fascists seek to rejuvenate their nation based on commitment to the national community as an organic entity, in which individuals are bound together in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood.

    Fascist monarchy. :(

    I live in hope though that one day a common worker ant will risk it all and attempt to solidify the workers of the ant world in opposition to the unjust system. Unfortunately I suspect that they will rely heavily on the soldier ants to accomplish this. Then it seems somewhat tragically inevitable that there will be a mustachioed soldier ant in there somewhere who dreams only of becoming the defacto fascist monarchy himself, but will ride in on the concepts of communism until he is strong enough to make his move.

    Ant Gulags... That's all I'm sayin'.


  • #57
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    hierarchical structure where no one individual is more important that any other except the queen and then not even her so much since they always have at least another couple of queens waiting to take over.


  • #58
    calabi yau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭calabi yau


    378495-2001_ape_monolith_super.jpg


  • #59
    carfiosaoorl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭carfiosaoorl


    Every life form on the planet evolves to suit the environment that it is living in. If it doesnt it will eventually die out.


  • #60
    Voodoomelon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    I don't think my head as every hurt so much after reading a thread.


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  • #61
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    bleg wrote: »
    No. With this sentence you have shown a complete lack of knowledge or understanding about the theory of evolution.

    Actually, it doesn't.

    We are descended from both apes, and also prior to that - earlier primates which could be described as monkeys if they lived today.

    I see absolutely no need to dispute that homo sapiens are descended from monkeys. We just aren't descended from modern monkeys.


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