Evolution And All That Jazz

Big Nasty · 18-11-2011 11:00PM #1

So we derived from monkeys or apes or whatever, right?

We just dragged ourselves outta the water one day and evolved in to what we are today over millenia? We developed all sorts of technology beginning in the stone age and have gone onwards and upwards ever since.

What about the other creatures we share this world with? Ok, giraffes developed longer necks to eat from trees and crocs developed thick skins, etc.

Have any other animals on the planet done something similar that we're not aware of or are humans unique in their speed of evolution on this planet? Or are we merely an experiment and mice truly rule this world?

RichieC · 18-11-2011 11:04PM

Not sure our evolution was any faster than other creatures.

Terry · 18-11-2011 11:06PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

What about the other creatures we share this world with?

They're the idiots who vote for FF.

bleg · 18-11-2011 11:06PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

So we derived from monkeys or apes or whatever, right?

No. With this sentence you have shown a complete lack of knowledge or understanding about the theory of evolution.

AnamGlas · 18-11-2011 11:06PM

Terry wrote: »

They're the idiots who vote for FF.

Stop, you're making creatures look bad.

TheBegotten · 18-11-2011 11:07PM

The faster a species reaches sexual maturity and the more populous and varied the population, the faster it evolves. Intelligence and agility are just skills honed by primates to aid in survival.

Or at least that's what I think "squeak squeak" means.

desertcircus · 18-11-2011 11:08PM

I'm going to learn to play the sax and call my first album Evolution And All That Jazz.

Daithi 1 · 18-11-2011 11:08PM

Sir Frederick Hoyle (the British astronomer who coined the term “Big Bang” .

The likelihood of the formation of life from inanimate matter is one to a number with 40,000 naughts after it... It is big enough to bury Darwin and the whole theory of evolution. There was no primeval soup, neither on this planet nor any other, and if the beginnings of life were not random, they must therefore have been the product of purposeful intelligence.(1981)

earpiece · 18-11-2011 11:09PM

I believe women have evolved too.

Big Nasty · 18-11-2011 11:09PM

TheBegotten wrote: »

The faster a species reaches sexual maturity and the more populous and varied the population, the faster it evolves. Intelligence and agility are just skills honed by primates to aid in survival.

Or at least that's what I think "squeak squeak" means.

So rabbits really rule the world!

smk89 · 18-11-2011 11:12PM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Sir Frederick Hoyle (the British astronomer who coined the term “Big Bang” .

The likelihood of the formation of life from inanimate matter is one to a number with 40,000 naughts after it... It is big enough to bury Darwin and the whole theory of evolution. There was no primeval soup, neither on this planet nor any other, and if the beginnings of life were not random, they must therefore have been the product of purposeful intelligence.(1981)

Sounds like intelligent design tbh. Just because something is really really rediculously unlikely doesn't mean it can't happen.

Daithi 1 · 18-11-2011 11:13PM

smk89 wrote: »

Sounds like intelligent design tbh. Just because something is really really rediculously unlikely doesn't mean it can't happen.

yeah but for countless species ? 40,000 X countless

Wertz · 18-11-2011 11:15PM

Ants.

Doc Ruby · 18-11-2011 11:16PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

So rabbits really rule the world!

I for one welcome our tasty, tasty overlords.

Gee Bag · 18-11-2011 11:16PM

earpiece wrote: »

I believe women have evolved too.

Thats where your wrong.....

Lemmewinks · 18-11-2011 11:17PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

So we derived from monkeys or apes or whatever, right?

No - we share a common ancestor.

evolved in to what we are today over millenia?

No, over millions of years.

Come back when you grasp even the basic concept of evolution. You're below primary school level at the moment.

desertcircus · 18-11-2011 11:19PM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Sir Frederick Hoyle (the British astronomer who coined the term “Big Bang” .

Sir Frederick Hoyle, noted non-biologist and non-statistician, making a bad statistical argument about a field which wasn't his specialty; an argument so bad it has its own Wikipedia page, under Hoyle's fallacy. There are complex and involved explanations about how wrong he is, but let's take the simple approach: whatever the odds are on life evolving randomly, the odds against an omnipotent being existing and controlling the process are vastly larger.

RichieC · 18-11-2011 11:20PM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Sir Frederick Hoyle (the British astronomer who coined the term “Big Bang” .

What would an astronomer know of biology? even less so of abiogenisis I'd venture.

*desertcircus beat me to it.

Standman · 18-11-2011 11:24PM

Just because we have gained consciousness and superior intelligence does not mean we are "more evolved". That's not how evolution works.

Big Nasty · 18-11-2011 11:25PM

Lemmewinks wrote: »

No, over millions of years.

Come back when you grasp even the basic concept of evolution. You're below primary school level at the moment.

Millenia = plural of millenium.

Did I put a limit on the number of millenia?

Come back when you grasp even the basic concept of mathematics. You're below primary school level at the moment.

Daithi 1 · 18-11-2011 11:26PM

RichieC wrote: »

What would an astronomer know of biology? even less so of abiogenisis I'd venture.

*desertcircus beat me to it.

It's just an interesting personal observation folks, no disrespect intended :pac:

no need to get ur poxy nickurs in a twist

sgb · 18-11-2011 11:29PM

Adam and Eve enter the equation for allot of people, we should not ignore their beliefs

I know the Christianity Forum is that way

Big Nasty · 18-11-2011 11:30PM

Standman wrote: »

Just because we have gained consciousness and superior intelligence does not mean we are "more evolved". That's not how evolution works.

Even at that, who is to truly say we are more intelligent than any other animal? We have physical things we can see, methods of communication we can understand but who's to say that other creatures on this planet haven't developed better technology than humans when we can't even understand their languages let alone their development.

Gee Bag · 18-11-2011 11:30PM

sgb wrote: »

Adam and Eve enter the equation for a lot of people, we should not ignore their beliefs

Yes we should.

Lemmewinks · 18-11-2011 11:32PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Millenia = plural of millenium.

Did I put a limit on the number of millenia?

Come back when you grasp even the basic concept of mathematics. You're below primary school level at the moment.

Yeah, you implied a limit by it's very definition. e.g. If you meant millions you would say millions. If you meant less than 100 you would say dozens, etc. If you meant thousands, you would say millennia (you spelled it wrong, BTW).

And considering you said "we evolved from apes", it's safe to assume your grasp of how long it took was also likely to be way off.

Oh, and you also avoided my main point which was about your sh*t grasp of evolution. Other than that, awesome reply.

Daithi 1 · 18-11-2011 11:32PM

Gee Bag wrote: »

Yes we should.

How do you get away with that name ? :pac:

amacachi · 18-11-2011 11:32PM

sgb wrote: »

Adam and Eve enter the equation for allot of people, we should not ignore their beliefs

I know the Christianity Forum is that way

Hope you're not ignoring adherents to The Church of the FSM.

Cpt_Blackbeard · 18-11-2011 11:35PM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Sir Frederick Hoyle (the British astronomer who coined the term “Big Bang” .

So you're taking his word as proof of a superior being etc.? He coined the term ''big bang'' as a mockery and stated stellar nucleosynthesis as proof as to why the big bang wasn't possible - Big bang nucleosynthesis doesn't explain the formation of elements heavier than lithium (I think). I'm sure he'd be dismayed if he knew how the stellar nucleosynthesis he backed just serves to help our understanding of the big bang.

Lemmewinks · 18-11-2011 11:36PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Even at that, who is to truly say we are more intelligent than any other animal? We have physical things we can see, methods of communication we can understand but who's to say that other creatures on this planet haven't developed better technology than humans when we can't even understand their languages let alone their development.

Obvious troll is obvious.

mackg · 18-11-2011 11:38PM

Lemmewinks wrote: »

Obvious troll is obvious.

troll is a bit harsh.

Daithi 1 · 18-11-2011 11:38PM

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

So you're taking his word as proof of a superior being etc.? He coined the term ''big bang'' as a mockery and stated stellar nucleosynthesis as proof as to why the big bang wasn't possible - Big bang nucleosynthesis doesn't explain the formation of elements heavier than lithium (I think). I'm sure he'd be dismayed if he knew how the stellar nucleosynthesis he backed just serves to help our understanding of the big bang.

Basically, he was a dìck.

Um.. not taking it as proof. Relax. just throwing it out there.

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