Windows Phone 7 Launch Thread

AntiVirus wrote: »

I'd expect this is going to be the biggest selling Windows Phone so far. Far out selling the HTC Titan.

It will be the biggest selling WP7, that doesn't get away from the fact its a pretty cack smartphone, best selling != best.

There's a massive legacy Nokia fanboy base, the sort of people who told us the N98 was better than the iPhone, and among the non mobile phone cognescenti Nokia still has an excellent reputation.

I don't think the average buyer will be interested in the history of the Lumia 800 or how it relates to the N9; it's simply a phone that looks really well, runs WP7.5 perfectly, has a fairly decent camera and is a Nokia. Stick the Angry Bird tile to the Start screen and it's sold. Those are the key factors for the vast majority.

Admittedly the rest of us phone geeks will indeed be thinking No FFC, No internet sharing at launch, Camera could be better, Only 16GB, Features have been removed compared to N9, etc etc. But who cares what we think?

I downloaded the new update today, which resolves the lack of voicemail notifications.....
Now I've 18 new voicemails!

Odaise Gaelach wrote: »

Which update is that? Surely there's not another one out now, is there?

http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-reportedly-rolling-out-7740-os-update-windows-phone

wheresmybeaver wrote: »

I don't think the average buyer will be interested in the history of the Lumia 800 or how it relates to the N9; it's simply a phone that looks really well, runs WP7.5 perfectly, has a fairly decent camera and is a Nokia. Stick the Angry Bird tile to the Start screen and it's sold. Those are the key factors for the vast majority.

Admittedly the rest of us phone geeks will indeed be thinking No FFC, No internet sharing at launch, Camera could be better, Only 16GB, Features have been removed compared to N9, etc etc. But who cares what we think?

Do you mean NFC?

Personally (As a "phone geek") I'm still fairly impressed with the Lumia.

People are going on about how the specs are crap compared to Android counterparts, but they dont understand that the specs are only as relevant as the OS using them.

Android needs to make use of more RAM and higher clocked processors because of the way it works. WP7 (and iOS too) are much less resource heavy, and so, dont require big fancy processors.

I've a friend with a Samsung Galaxy S2, and while its great most of the time, it does have instances where it gets quite laggy, notably when typing on the keyboard.

I've never had any lag on my Optimus. Nor did I have any on my 3GS.

The SGS2 is clocked at 1.2Ghz Dual Core with 1GB RAM
The Optimus is clocked at 1Ghz Single Core with 512MB RAM
The 3GS is clocked at 600Mhz Single Core with 256MB RAM

Moral of the story is; Its not the hardware you've got, its how you use it

wheresmybeaver wrote: »

Just putting this out there for some of the Irish WP7 developers who frequent the board:

Would it be possible to develop an app (perhaps with live tile) that displays your remaining text and voice minutes, remaining data etc. on your plan? Or your credit if you're on prepay? Something like this or this

I would especially like one for counting data on my O2 billpay plan as it is ridiculously difficult to check this from my phone (I need to navigate half a dozen pages of the not-mobile-optimized O2 website).

I realise that this would involve scraping data from the operators homepages, which ends up getting broken every time they update their website, but I would pay money to keep track of my data and bill more closely. I'm almost certain O2 aren't going to do this for me. Any takers?

Not a dev myself, but I think this was brought up before. I may be wrong, but as far as I know it cant be done at the moment because Irish carriers dont give out the API's used to access that data.

DjFlin wrote: »

Not a dev myself, but I think this was brought up before. I may be wrong, but as far as I know it cant be done at the moment because Irish carriers dont give out the API's used to access that data.

Yeah there are very few operators who give allow API access at all, so that's why I'm suggesting scraping publically available pages.

Odaise Gaelach wrote: »

I'd give it a go, but the main problem is that I'm on pay-as-you-go with Vodafone. I could probably implement that, with a little work. But I've no clue how Vodafone present billpay information on their website, or how other operators such as O2 login and display that information on their site.

That of course is very valid. You would need some trusting beta testers to give you access to their O2 or Vodafone logons! A comprehensive app with support for O2, Vodafone, 3 and Meteor would be a nightmare.. probably best done on a one-network-per-app basis. Are there any android apps like this? Do Voda or O2 offer official Android apps in this country?

Nokia Lumia 800 wins Phone of The Year award

http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-800-wins-phone-year-award

gman2k wrote: »

Nokia Lumia 800 wins Phone of The Year award

http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-800-wins-phone-year-award

Real meaningful that result, "Nokia fanboys vote unreleased phone as phone of the year in meaningless magazine without ever having seen or touched one!"

Bet these guys voted

rossc007 wrote: »

Well you wrote it off without seeing or touching one, right?

Indeed, but that's because its crap. Its underpowered compared to it's WP7 peers, overpriced at over 450 sterling sim free, and simply not worth countenancing as a purchase.

I firmly believe Nokia's purpose built WP7 handsets which will come next year will be very good, but the Lumia 800 is just a poor stopgap, and only a fool would buy one.

DjFlin wrote: »

Okay, what the hell is FFC? Your the second person to mention it, and I've no clue what it is.

Front-facing camera.

So a really weird thing happened to me tonight. I decided to take the plunge on a ChevronWP7 unlock token, mainly for two reasons, the ability to sideload out-of-region apps (see my Spotify post above) and to finally start working on some app ideas I've had.

So I went through the process (which is remarkably easy in case anyone else is thinking about it) and eventually get an error at the final stage. The error stated that the phone had already been unlocked externally so, following the advice on XDA, I went to the AppHub Registration Tool and entered my details. It then proceeded to register the device so I did it again to unregister it. Tried the Unlock Tool again and got the same error. Feeling slightly baffled, I then decided to fire up the Visual Studio and using the template app attempted to deploy it to the phone. Presto it worked! What the hell?

So, the only thing I can think of is that when I moved over here earlier in the year, Meteor gave me an unlock code for the phone but I assumed that was just a carrier one so I could use alternate SIM cards. Surely that wouldn't actually unlock the phone for dev purposes, would it?