Berlin get to see our Budget first ?

Biggins · 17-11-2011 04:36PM

twinytwo wrote: »

Collins must be laughing at us now... tar and feather the whole lot of them.

He hasn't got time to laugh - he's too busy rolling in his grave!

twinytwo · 17-11-2011 04:36PM

parrai wrote: »

I agree but under the current system we will always owe them money, the debt will never be paid in full as we will be in deficit continously to some extent. The budgets can only 'squeeze' so much from people... It will end badly and that is a fact.

Oh very true, i think the eu is dying a very slow death. Every country is run by a brain dead bafoon, with corruption in every government.

For the EU to function we would need honest men, unfortuantly they died out a long time ago.

The eu will contiue to push until we get a revolt here similar to what is going on in the middle east. It will take longer here because have had it too good for too long, but it will happen at some stage.

msg11 · 17-11-2011 04:37PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Anyone else growing a strong dislike for central Europe as of late... France,Germany ect...

What I will say though is if they raise VAT by 2% they will do nothing only stop people from spending money on non essential items.

And start people running across the border for cheaper alcohol when the flat rate alcohol levy comes in.

foxyboxer · 17-11-2011 04:37PM

John Doe1 wrote: »

Right lets invade germany, whos with me?:mad:

Ours
http://www.esatclear.ie/~curragh/images/ARR%204.JPG

Versus

http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/images/AberdeenProvingGrounds/20060509_2166_NSengupta_AberdeenProvingGroundss.jpg

http://edge.alluremedia.com.au/m/k/2011/10/Laughing.png

Gummy Panda · 17-11-2011 04:38PM

Well retail outlets are going to take done hit. They either absorb the 2% by lowering their profit margin or raise their shelf price. Either way is going to hurt them.

UK online sellers will be laughing in the short term though once they hit 35k euro a year sales from ireland they need to start paying Irish vat.

Son Of A Vidic · 17-11-2011 04:41PM

twinytwo wrote: »

Oh very true, i think the eu is dying a very slow death.

Possibly, unless we all submit to more centralisation and greater German control of our affairs. They might yet have their 4th Reich and without a shot being fired.

CamperMan · 17-11-2011 04:41PM

SeaFields wrote: »

I don't. Kunts.

would you rather have the Brits controlling you? the Irish Government can't look after themselves or their people, might as well be another country

ThinkAboutIt · 17-11-2011 04:41PM

Germany are paying to keep the lights on they're very entitled to see our budget. Don't forget it.

My name is URL · 17-11-2011 04:42PM

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

Germany are paying to keep the lights on they're very entitled to see our budget. Don't forget it.

I'd rather live in the dark than under their guiding light.

twinytwo · 17-11-2011 04:42PM

id like also to thank all those who voted yes to lisbon, after all those of us who voted no were morons?? right??.

We handed away what little power we had on the back of promises from those in governemt... oh the irony.

Our own government would sell us up the river if it suited them, not a sack between the lot of them.

jester77 · 17-11-2011 04:43PM

Only fair that I should know where my tax money is going :pac:

twinytwo · 17-11-2011 04:43PM

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

Germany are paying to keep the lights on they're very entitled to see our budget. Don't forget it.

no we are paying them to pay for the lights, so as usual it is the middle class thats forks up for everything.

Biggins · 17-11-2011 04:43PM

Honestly, all giving out aside. All I can do right now is shake my head in despair and wonder what the hell is next in the pipeline for the Irish people!

This is just more craziness heaped upon prior madness and stupidity.

Morlar · 17-11-2011 04:44PM

I don't know about you but I said NO to Lisbon twice, I also said 'the bubble would burst'. Each time all the boards.ie experts lined up around the block to pronounce the ridiculousness of those views.

Dempsey · 17-11-2011 04:44PM

TheZohan wrote: »

Fianna Fail sell us out, Fianna Gael continue with Fianna Fails 4 point plan and continue to sell us out and then Fianna Fail complain that Fianna Gael are doing exactly what they would have done had they remained in power.

Bunch of useless bastards the lot of them and they can shove any VAT rate up their arse, making the country more expensive to live in is not going to get us out of this hole, they'll lose more VAT by people shopping online from the UK.

All we do at election time is flip a coin, different promises but same policies & same bull****. The depressing thing is all those that though we'd be getting something different, something better by putting FG into power.

The German masterplan is upon us, persistent kunts they are

whatislife · 17-11-2011 04:45PM

Fine Gael, Fianna Faile and the rest of them are all of the same but with different cultural/historical backgrounds.

They are all run by self serving, greedy people who put themselves above and before the nation that they are supposed to support.

But its ok because we won't protest. After all protesting is for crusties and doesn't achieve anything...

foxyboxer · 17-11-2011 04:45PM

twinytwo wrote: »

id like also to thank all those who voted yes to lisbon, after all those of us who voted no were morons?? right??.

We handed away what little power we had on the back of promises from those in governemt... oh the irony.

Our own government would sell us up the river if it suited them, not a sack between the lot of them.

Sarkozy: What ees dis? You voted non to the Lisbon? Monsieur Cowen, pleez run eet again.

Completionist · 17-11-2011 04:45PM

A bit short sighted!

Raising the vat does not mean the current level of spending will remain static but rather less will be spent on non essentials resulting in a larger deficit than if they had not touched it!

Genius!

msg11 · 17-11-2011 04:46PM

Forgot too add.

Working in Tesco, retailers and the people who supply them. Love when the government raise vat or tax, it gives then a chance to up there own prices, fooling customers into thinking the price change from 1.00 to 1.20 is the governments doing. When in fact a 2% change on 1 Euro would be about 2c, then it's up by 18c by the retailer, not sure about the maths there but you get my point.

Price a pint I say will rocket too over the 5er mark.

Complete farce of a government, doing nothing they were voted in for. In fact they have actually gone against everything they said they would and then say FF signed away the country. Bunch of crocks. FG - 1 Letter = FF , same clowns.

Biggins · 17-11-2011 04:46PM

Morlar wrote: »

I don't know about you but I said NO to Lisbon twice, I also said 'the bubble would burst'. Each time all the boards.ie experts lined up around the block to pronounce the ridiculousness of those views.

I remember it well!
Where are they now!

My name is URL · 17-11-2011 04:47PM

And yesterday Noonan announced an extension of the bank guarantee. Anyone that thinks this lot are any better than FF needs their heads examined.

Morlar · 17-11-2011 04:47PM

whatislife wrote: »

Fine Gael, Fianna Faile and the rest of them are all of the same but with different cultural/historical backgrounds.

They are all run by self serving, greedy people who put themselves above and before the nation that they are supposed to support.

But its ok because we won't protest. After all protesting is for crusties and doesn't achieve anything...

That reminds me of an article in Vanity fair about the Irish. It was basically a quote from a taxi driver, the gist of it was something like 'Yeah, us Irish will take it and take it and take it and take it. But then, when we do finally snap you better watch out.' (Or words to that effect). I thought it was a fairly accurate observation.

twinytwo · 17-11-2011 04:48PM

Biggins wrote: »

I remember it well!
Where are they now!

yes where is mr Vin Rhymes... or however he spelt it.

My name is URL · 17-11-2011 04:49PM

Biggins wrote: »

I remember it well!
Where are they now!

They're in the politics forum bleating on about how we are to blame for the worlds problems and how the only remedies are ones drawn up by the EU

Sir Oxman · 17-11-2011 04:49PM

Germany is a country. We are a country. (Okay, stay with me here...)
Why is another country in an apparent union of equals having first dibs on another country's budget proposals.
If it has to be someone/thing then it should be the EU not bloody Germany.

And Fianna Fail can shut the fúck up too. Fckin vermin.

foxyboxer · 17-11-2011 04:51PM

Can anyone translate this into German and send it to Angela?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1109/pensions.html

msg11 · 17-11-2011 04:52PM

gambiaman wrote: »

And Fianna Fail can shut the fúck up too. Fckin vermin.

Don't forget that joker from the green party, I am actually starting to think here to myself that I wouldn't actually trust these looneys with a budget for dog.

Son Of A Vidic · 17-11-2011 04:54PM

Biggins wrote: »

I remember it well!
Where are they now!

Their silence is deafening isn't it? Mindless, unthinking sheep who blindly followed the bullshít verbal ejaculations of our idiot politicians.

ThinkAboutIt · 17-11-2011 04:56PM

twinytwo wrote: »

no we are paying them to pay for the lights, so as usual it is the middle class thats forks up for everything.

If we were paying we wouldn't need a BAILOUT from GERMANY. Just accept it, we cannot control ourselves now, we had the chance and blew it. It is what it is.

Biggins · 17-11-2011 04:58PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Their silence is deafening isn't it? Mindless, unthinking sheep who blindly followed the bullshít verbal ejaculations of our idiot politicians.

I like others, kept mentioning "dozing sheep" or words to that effect during the two European referendums and got ridiculed for it.
Amazing how those that were so vocal them, are silent now. Guess they must have crawled back under their rocks to hide!

Berlin get to see our Budget first ?

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