Disband the whole f**kin Army NOW !

talkinyite · 16-11-2011 02:47AM

Token resistance me hole, they'd be well able to mount a perpetual guerrilla war. I can't understand why people want to be completely defenseless. Military service should be mandatory, every household should have at least one gun.

prinz · 16-11-2011 02:53AM

Toy soldiers alright. Sitting between Lebanon, Israel and Syria.

jd007 · 16-11-2011 03:04AM

"Just miles from your doorstep, hundreds of men are given weapons and trained to kill. The government calls it the Army, but a more alarmist name would be... The Killbot Factory." -- Kent Brockman

K-9 · 16-11-2011 03:05AM

Sure we can rely on the Brits if anything goes wrong.

mackg · 16-11-2011 03:15AM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

And stones with with nice Oirish things written on them.

send em down to Killarney for a weekend with their defense budget and watch them blow it all on woolly jumpers, plastic leprechauns and Guinness.

The Scientician · 16-11-2011 03:17AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II5tqdp-JUk

Local-womanizer · 16-11-2011 04:40AM

johnr1 wrote: »

And everybody knows our brave soldiers weakness, deafness.

You haven't a clue do you?

Do you have any idea what is involved in a soldiers day to day life at work? Or do you just speculate as you actually have no idea and just base your assumptions on ill-founded opinions of those with an axe to grind with the Defence Forces?

And have you actually done any further reading into the Army Deafness cases other than what was in the paper at the time?

If you did you would see that the soldiers who did sue the state where well within their rights to do so. If the same carry on happened in a private workplace you would be fully supportive of the employees.

They are much braver than you, that's for sure, unless where you type from is worse than lets say, Lebanon, Chad, Afghanistan or Kosovo, but somehow I doubt it....

shannon_tek · 16-11-2011 05:06AM

We need the Army this afternoon for the riots. :pac:

LighterGuy · 16-11-2011 06:00AM

Every country needs an army.
Not matter how small or tiny it may be compared to other countries military forces.

Laisurg · 16-11-2011 06:02AM

Yakult wrote: »

I say fence off the country's coast line, barbed wire or something like that which would stop them.

We just need to take a lesson from the french and stick up our own maginot line.

Adam · 16-11-2011 06:07AM

LighterGuy wrote: »

Every country needs an army.
Not matter how small or tiny it may be compared to other countries military forces.

Wow.

Picture this: No country has an army.

Did I just blow your mind?

Cookie_Monster · 16-11-2011 06:17AM

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Do you have any idea what is involved in a soldiers day to day life at work?

Lots of hard work by the looks of things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1seJgRVNifk

Son Of A Vidic · 16-11-2011 06:19AM

K-9 wrote: »

Sure we can rely on the Brits if anything goes wrong.

The Brits you say? Why would we depend on the one army we have a track record of kicking the shít outta?

NinjaK · 16-11-2011 07:19AM

johnr1 wrote: »

Big Hooha going on about a few of our fat overpaid underworked toy soldiers having to drive a few miles extra to work, (the poor dears will only be paid a nice chunk to do it for the first year).

I say, disband the whole lot of them now, as they are as useless as a fork when its raining soup anyway. If we were to be invaded, (not likely) they could only put up a small token resistance anyway, and would be massacred within a few days.

Here's what we could do instead with the money saved ;

1. Keep a very small force - maybe 500 or so for protecting cash-in-transit and minding our Leprechaun in the Park (thats another thread entirely) and picking up old dears when their houses get flooded.

2. Spend half of the savings on hospitals, schools, - stuff we dont have that most normal societies do....fill in this blank to your own taste.

3. Spend the other half saved on equipping our token Navy properly seeing as most of our borders are in water, and most illegal incursions into our state happen when our fishing stocks (We have the largest waters in EU but one of the smallest fish quotas) get systematically stolen by other countries.
Our newly beefed up Navy could also play a more meaningful role in reducing drug trafficing through Irish waters.

Now I've no particular interest in fishing, or drug traffic reduction, or the Navy, but it seems mad to me that we have a huge coastline, and countries with almost none eg Poland have Navies which put us to shame, while we have a land army used almost exclusively for peacekeeping outside of Ireland.

What a load of condescending anti Irish b ull****

K-9 · 16-11-2011 07:51AM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

The Brits you say? Why would we depend on the one army we have a track record of kicking the shít outta?

When was this?

Who do you think will do it then?

Mr. CooL ICE · 16-11-2011 08:00AM

TheZohan wrote: »

what's 7ft tall, ginger, built like a brick schit-house and would make you pee your pants if you said that to him?

Dominick Bumpy Seal?

Gummy Panda · 16-11-2011 08:23AM

TheZohan wrote: »

what's 7ft tall, ginger, built like a brick schit-house and would make you pee your pants if you said that to him?

Dr Bollocko?

:pac:

Nodin · 16-11-2011 08:31AM

johnr1 wrote: »

Big Hooha going on about a few of our fat overpaid underworked toy soldiers .............

Good to see you've kept an open mind there.

daithimacgroin · 16-11-2011 08:39AM

making the army smaller to pay for a better navy and aircorps is a good idea imo

smurgen · 16-11-2011 08:50AM

i say we disband the army and outsource our defence to Somali pirates.We could turn a profit on them, they don't even eat that much and they could steal shi+ from the British for us.

Pherekydes · 16-11-2011 08:51AM

I think the OP must be Ivan Yates.

hairy sailor · 16-11-2011 08:55AM

excellent idea OP,the money we save when we sack the lot of them we can use to pay their dole,

AJ1 · 16-11-2011 08:58AM

I'm just wondering what it is our army does that a civilian contractor couldn't do? It would be cheaper than having a permamanent defence force.

I remember a similar debate on the radio a few years ago. One lady saying " Of course we need an army. Well you just never know, what if we were to be invaded......" :rolleyes:

To be honest, we would last slightly less than pissing time against a modern, well equipped army. Save for the Steyer and a few Javelins we wouldn't have the resources to mount any kind of serious defence so it would descend into guerrilla-style warfare as another poster has said.

Whilst I have the greatest respect for the Irish army and the work that they do home and abroad. I can't see the need for a permanent defence force. I personally think we could drastically reduce it to a small confederacy and still perform the same jobs on a smaller (and cheaper) scale.

I'm not anti-army in any way whatsoever, I was a soldier myself once. This is just my personal opinion.

Dravokivich · 16-11-2011 09:29AM

LordChessington wrote: »

Makikomi?

Yeah that's who he's talking about.

sasta le · 16-11-2011 10:07AM

What do the Army actaully do when not on duty abroad?

Ok i know cash and prison escorts but the ones that dont do that

Make them work for there money when they have nothing to do,they need the army to become a multi skilled force
They could be doing community work

Wicklowrider · 16-11-2011 10:08AM

K-9 wrote: »

Sure we can rely on the Brits if anything goes wrong.

Irish men and women soldier for many countries including Britain and every time Britain goes to war Irish soldiers are admired worldwide for their martial prowess. But you, and some others here on boards carry on with this uneducated moronic myth that Ireland needs the the UK and the US.If we ever did need help it would be OWED ten times over through Irish lives and limbs lost in conflict worldwide. In fact, I am hard put to think of a country that hasn't had Irish soldiers fight for them.

Honestly - when subjects like this come up some amount of pure drivel is spouted here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irish_Victoria_Cross_recipients

http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/The-Irish-dominate-Medal-of-Honor-recipients-95099859.html

Cavehill Red · 16-11-2011 10:14AM

Wicklowrider wrote: »

Irish men and women soldier for many countries including Britain and every time Britain goes to war Irish soldiers are admired worldwide for their martial prowess. But you, and some others here on boards carry on with this uneducated moronic myth that Ireland needs the the UK and the US.If we ever did need help it would be OWED ten times over through Irish lives and limbs lost in conflict worldwide. In fact, I am hard put to think of a country that hasn't had Irish soldiers fight for them.

I'm going with Vanuatu on this one. Failing that, the Marshall Islands.
Look, quit your carping. So what if Irishmen chose to be mercenaries all over the place? It means nothing. They got paid for their time and effort.

Wicklowrider wrote: »

Honestly - when subjects like this come up some amount of pure drivel is spouted here.

Like the implication in your post that the British don't actually patrol our waters, shelter us with their nuclear umbrella, conduct special ops on our behalf (and if you doubt this point, inquire from the Gardai who discovered Al-qaeda's no. 2 living in South Dublin because it wasn't them).
The bottom line is the only reason we have an army (sorree, defence forces, though we don't defend against anything because no one's attacking us) is to go abroad and showboat. It's like the foreign aid programme - hubris we can no longer afford. Scrap the lot of it.

giant_midget · 16-11-2011 10:14AM

johnr1 wrote: »

Big Hooha going on about a few of our fat overpaid underworked toy soldiers having to drive a few miles extra to work, (the poor dears will only be paid a nice chunk to do it for the first year).

I say, disband the whole lot of them now, as they are as useless as a fork when its raining soup anyway. If we were to be invaded, (not likely) they could only put up a small token resistance anyway, and would be massacred within a few days.

Here's what we could do instead with the money saved ;

1. Keep a very small force - maybe 500 or so for protecting cash-in-transit and minding our Leprechaun in the Park (thats another thread entirely) and picking up old dears when their houses get flooded.

2. Spend half of the savings on hospitals, schools, - stuff we dont have that most normal societies do....fill in this blank to your own taste.

3. Spend the other half saved on equipping our token Navy properly seeing as most of our borders are in water, and most illegal incursions into our state happen when our fishing stocks (We have the largest waters in EU but one of the smallest fish quotas) get systematically stolen by other countries.
Our newly beefed up Navy could also play a more meaningful role in reducing drug trafficing through Irish waters.

Now I've no particular interest in fishing, or drug traffic reduction, or the Navy, but it seems mad to me that we have a huge coastline, and countries with almost none eg Poland have Navies which put us to shame, while we have a land army used almost exclusively for peacekeeping outside of Ireland.

Having a poke at the army base in Mullingar, What a patethic way to gain self gratitude...Judging by your remarks im going to guess you are on the dole having lost a very low paid job and are just another patethic green eyed monster Irishman jealous of anyone in the public sector.

Im not in the Army btw...I work in the Airport

CreepingDeath · 16-11-2011 10:26AM

Faith+1 wrote: »

What's the Army? We have a Defence Force and I think they're doing a fine job both here and abroad.

Really ?

They couldn't be arsed clearing the snow last year without looking for more money. Mercenaries would probably be cheaper.

Plazaman · 16-11-2011 10:30AM

Why do we need an Army ? Two words - ALIEN INVASION.

Laugh and mock now but you won't be smiling when you're getting anally probed by ET.

Disband the whole f**kin Army NOW !

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