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Sick of people saying there are no jobs. There are, but the market has just changed.

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  • #32
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    How Many Users wrote: »
    I have a first because I worked my ass off. While I was in college I worked 2 jobs to support myself. I didn't go out and get drunk or take drugs the whole time. In fact I don't drink.

    Don't even try to tell me that everyone currently on the dole is actively looking for jobs 24/7. Half of them are down the pub everyday.

    Wow, you're telling me that you're supposed to be the future of this country?

    This guy is certainly trolling lads. Don't feed him anymore. Nobody can be this stupid!


  • #33
    WhatNowForUs?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭WhatNowForUs?


    How Many Users wrote: »
    Point in case,I studied IT for my primary degree and got a first and recently graduated from a masters in business and got a 2.1.

    When I finished I applied for one job and got it and am now on 40k a year including bonus. I don't feel I was particularly lucky, I worked hard and it paid off. Every time I look a job websites like jobs.ie etc, there are hundreds of jobs going, yet you walk past the dole office on sign on day and there are cues going out the door.

    I think people in this country have become lazy and are no longer even trying to look for work. People have to start to face facts that the housing bubble has burst, there are no longer jobs in the building sector. It's time for the country to start upskilling again. Get into the fas centers and learn something new. But no, the people on the dole don't even bother any more.

    Now I am not saying everyone on the dole is like this, but lets be honest most of the heads I see walking in there are.

    Thoughts?


    Tell me, if the **** fell from the I.T. sector would you be able to swoon in and become a Design Engineer or Architect at a drop of a hat.

    Upskilling!!! come on, it would take 4 or 5 years to upskill to the same level in another profession, some of these people have worked their butts of to get to the level they are at now in their chosen carrers.


  • #34
    Gee Bag
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    OP, word of advice about on how to keep your new job. If anyone ever asks you for your opinion on anything keep your mouth firmly shut. That way no one will know about all the ridiculousness jammed into that silly little head of yours.


  • #35
    blahfckingblah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭blahfckingblah


    so you reckon everybody decided to get "lazy" at the one time and nobody else noticed where there are jobs appart from you??? seems kinda rediculous


  • #36
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    How Many Users wrote: »
    I have a first because I worked my ass off. While I was in college I worked 2 jobs to support myself. I didn't go out and get drunk or take drugs the whole time. In fact I don't drink.

    Don't even try to tell me that everyone currently on the dole is actively looking for jobs 24/7. Half of them are down the pub everyday.

    Oh god. You should do yourself a favour and not post every thought that pops into your head. I'm embarrassed for you and I don't embarrass easily.


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  • #37
    Bipolar Joe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    How Many Users wrote: »
    People have to start to face facts that the housing bubble has burst, there are no longer jobs in the building sector.

    Everyone on the dole is an unemployed builder :confused::confused::confused::confused: ?
    How Many Users wrote: »
    Thoughts?

    I was just about to ask you the same thing.


  • #38
    Posy
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 28,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    Someone in my family was working for over 35 years when they were made redundant at the age of 55. They've now been on the dole for almost 2 years. So, if they read your post and got an epiphany 'Of course, going back to college will get me a job!' they'd be 62 when they get a degree and let's face it, realistically, how many 62 year old new graduates with no experience are going to be snapped up?
    For most people it's not as easy as 'just go back to college.'
    And study what? Should everyone study IT? :confused:
    How many qualified medical professionals and teachers are unemployed in this country?! It's not as easy as education=job.

    Also, OP, you mention "Get into the fas centers and learn something new". Could you please provide a link to, or list, of the courses they provide that could lead to employment? I know a few people that would really help out. :)


  • #39
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    Everyone on the dole is an unemployed builder :confused::confused::confused::confused: .

    No only half.

    The other half are in the pub all day.


  • #40
    MJPE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42 ✭MJPE


    Jesus OP you know your in the next bubble and when it goes pop and it will I wonder will you have same attitude if you lose your job and you are struggling to find a new job.


  • #41
    Millicent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    How Many Users wrote: »

    Don't even try to tell me that everyone currently on the dole is actively looking for jobs 24/7. Half of them are down the pub everyday.

    200,000 people drinking every day? The vintners must be delighted! Oh, wait... The Irish pub scene is apparently dying. Apparently due to falling numbers of customers. Do they not teach how business works in business courses these days? :confused:


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  • #42
    How Many Users
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭How Many Users


    Millicent wrote: »
    200,00 people drinking every day? The vintners must be delighted! Oh, wait... The Irish pub scene is apparently dying. Apparently due to falling numbers of customers. Do they not teach how business works in business courses these days? :confused:

    Yes, but Tesco's off licence department is booming.


  • #43
    Posy
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 28,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    How Many Users wrote: »
    I have a first because I worked my ass off. While I was in college I worked 2 jobs to support myself. I didn't go out and get drunk or take drugs the whole time. In fact I don't drink.
    My friend did this. She got a 1.1. Then she did a masters. Then spent a year abroad teaching English as a foreign language before doing her H.Dip.
    She now can't find a full time teaching job and mostly works in call centres.
    Should she retrain as something else now, is that what you're saying? :confused:


  • #44
    cackhanded
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭cackhanded


    How Many Users wrote: »
    Don't even try to tell me that everyone currently on the dole is actively looking for jobs 24/7. Half of them are down the pub everyday.

    Well than perhaps you could explain (using your masters of business knowledge) why so many pubs are closing and laying off staff? Surely with unemployment increasing continuously they should all be doing a roaring trade?

    Edit: Milllicent beat me to it


  • #45
    Typh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Typh


    OP, I doubt you'll see the sun again. You are being buried here.


  • #46
    Amalia Thoughtless Fashion
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Amalia Thoughtless Fashion


    How Many Users wrote: »
    Yes, but Tesco's off licence department is booming.

    So you're saying they all buy the drink in tesco and all manage to smuggle all this drink into the pubs every day?


  • #47
    Posy
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 28,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    saa wrote: »
    Everyone has a 2.1

    I have!! Sure, I'm great. ;)


  • #48
    Millicent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    How Many Users wrote: »
    Yes, but Tesco's off licence department is booming.

    Really? Would you believe I worked in the off licence in Tesco and would beg to differ? Or should we all not let facts get in the way of a good rant?


  • #49
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    How Many Users wrote: »
    Don't even try to tell me that everyone currently on the dole is actively looking for jobs 24/7.

    24/7 eh? What kind of automatons do you think these jobseekers should be that they don't need sleep?
    Half of them are down the pub everyday.

    Your calculations are not good Sir.

    The recession did little for the pub trade.


  • #50
    Gee Bag
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    ........and in the course of your extensive studies did you ever come across the word smug?


  • #51
    Millicent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Typh wrote: »
    OP, I doubt you'll see the sun again. You are being buried here.

    I'd say from the current location of the OP's head, there's not much fear of seeing the sun anyway...


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  • #52
    Nation 98
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 ✭Nation 98


    The arrogance and ignorance of the OP in this thread is truely amazing. Almost as good as John Delaney.


  • #53
    Millicent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    bluewolf wrote: »
    So you're saying they all buy the drink in tesco and all manage to smuggle all this drink into the pubs every day?

    By jove, I think you've got it! :pac:


  • #54
    staker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    Leave her alone!!:mad:







    Any chance of a loan til Thursday OP?


  • #55
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    How Many Users wrote: »
    Yes, but Tesco's off licence department is booming.

    Lol!

    OP, now I know why you chose to open up by telling everyone your educational record.

    "I can do this and that and i'm awesome" is always the trademark of a very insecure human being.

    And if I had the intellect you had then i'd certainly be insecure! Holy mother!


  • #56
    Amalia Thoughtless Fashion
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Amalia Thoughtless Fashion


    Millicent wrote: »
    By jove, I think you've got it! :pac:

    You'd think the bouncers and barmen would cop on, wha?
    Nevermind, the OP has a masters in business! He'll be along shortly to tell them what to do.


  • #57
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    staker wrote: »
    Leave her alone!!:mad:







    Any chance of a loan til Thursday OP?

    Is that the day you get paid from doing your FAS course?


  • #58
    How Many Users
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭How Many Users


    Posy wrote: »
    My friend did this. She got a 1.1. Then she did a masters. Then spent a year abroad teaching English as a foreign language before doing her H.Dip.
    She now can't find a full time teaching job and mostly works in call centres.
    Should she retrain as something else now, is that what you're saying? :confused:

    Fair enough, but it is an 80/20 rule. I would say 80% of the unemployed have given up and are now just taking the money and not even trying. I heard about a guy today who has been on the live register for 10 years now. I think that is just taking the piss. Maybe when he started years ago he would have said the same thing, too late to upskill, but now he has waisted the last 10 years.

    This recession started in 2008, it's now 3 years on and a lot of people have never left the dole. You're telling me they couldn't have learned something new in all that time? What about in another 7 years when a lot of them will still be claiming, will that be enough time for them?


  • #59
    Amalia Thoughtless Fashion
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Amalia Thoughtless Fashion


    How Many Users wrote:
    I heard about a guy today who has been on the live register for 10 years now.
    How Many Users wrote: »
    I would say 80% of the unemployed have given up and are now just taking the money and not even trying.
    Once again, I commend your fine logic skills.
    you heard about one guy on the live register for 10 years so 80% of unemployed aren't trying.


  • #60
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    How Many Users wrote: »
    Fair enough, but it is an 80/20 rule. I would say 80% of the unemployed have given up and are now just taking the money and not even trying. I heard about a guy today who has been on the live register for 10 years now. I think that is just taking the piss. Maybe when he started years ago he would have said the same thing, too late to upskill, but now he has waisted the last 10 years.

    This recession started in 2008, it's now 3 years on and a lot of people have never left the dole. You're telling me they couldn't have learned something new in all that time? What about in another 7 years when a lot of them will still be claiming, will that be enough time for them?

    Impressive figures, as would be expected given your great qualifications, but where are you getting them from?


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  • #61
    Miss Olenska
    Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Miss Olenska


    Aaaannnd another thing, OP. I too got the first job I interviewed for out of college. It was in the UK because in 2009, there was nothing here for a science grad with no experience, even with a good degree from the "best" uni in the country.

    Two things:

    a) I didn't gloat about getting that very good graduate job, I was SHOCKED. In fact, I still don't know how that happened.

    b) Life throws you curve-balls. I ended up having to leave that job after six months to come back to Ireland to deal with some health issues. Said health issues are now resolved but now I'm back in this country, with marginally more experience than I had before, trying to get a job with only six months in the last job and a huge gap after working against me. I'm also tied to this country this time around because I am now in a relationship. I can't shake the feeling that I had my chance and blew it. Life is messy, you never know what is around the corner.

    So, be glad of your position, OP, be glad to have your health and a healthy income. You never know what life will hurl at you.


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