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RTE and the Licence FEE

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  • #242
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    as to why anyone pays a tv licence is beyond me , RTE just wastes the money , fcuk em all I say


  • #243
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    got a reply from hugo, Im not sure what the rules are surrounding posting PM's so i wont post it, but suffice to say, he chickened out of confirming what most on this thread already know

    if someone can clarify if I am allowed to post PM's


  • #244
    HugoBradyBrown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 547 ✭✭✭HugoBradyBrown


    Deleted User wrote: »
    got a reply from hugo, Im not sure what the rules are surrounding posting PM's so i wont post it, but suffice to say, he chickened out of confirming what most on this thread already know

    if someone can clarify if I am allowed to post PM's

    Without yielding on the privilege of my PM, I should say that the quoted post is starkly at variance with the factual situation. I should also say that to breach the charter by even suggesting posting material conveyed in confidence fills me with great unease, and with concern about the ethics of the community of posters on this forum.


  • #245
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    HugoBradyBrown wrote: »
    Deleted User wrote: »

    Without yielding on the privilege of my PM, I should say that the quoted post is starkly at variance with the factual situation. I should also say that to breach the charter by even suggesting posting material conveyed in confidence fills me with great unease, and with concern about the ethics of the community of posters on this forum.

    so youre on the gravy train. Thanks for clarifying.


  • #246
    Tomk1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Tomk1


    It's only in the past few months, I've started watching some RTE. I must say the news is way better than any of the Sat channels, the distinct Irishness of it. I enjoy Nationwide great show, long ago use to watch 'ear to the ground' don't know if that's on anymore. The only reason I might watch the LLS is to take the p*ss out of it on boards, great enjoyment in that, but must admit that last Fridays show was best I've seen.

    I think there should be a proper RTE feedback, maybe here on boards, just like pcworld, I know that mailbag-like-show is coming on air soon, but it's the day of the internet, and an impartial site is more user friendly than a paid TV presenter cherry-picking topics.

    To tell the truth, the bill for the TV licence came the other day, this after clearing an eight month overdue ESB-bill, I am considering ditching the TV, it's not saorview, whats the point of upgrading. I spend most of my time on a PC, and usually watch Boxsets. (how many sale-priced box-sets can I get for €160 on top of those I get after dropping Sky)

    If anything the TV-licence should be coming down to €100 instead of going up to make up for reduced ad-income, it's not the celtic tiger.

    On the OP-topic Yes, but in ecconomics, if the price is too high people won't pay, and then the income will fall instead of rise.

    A reply to those RTE-licence-ads, I feel it's RTE that's putting their hands into my pocket and stealing from me.


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  • #247
    Liam Byrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    RachaelVO wrote: »
    Why should they have both when TV3 don't?

    To avoid Irish TV being absolute ****e like Z-factory and "I wanna be a celeb" ?


  • #248
    psychward
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭psychward


    We managed to have a culture and society for thousands of years before the existence of RTE and the invention of television yet you have the self regarding egomaniacs at RTE making their propagation of foreign shows and promotion of overpaid mediocre party hacks to be something indispensable to this ancient culture even though it managed to survive under terrible conditions for 99.9% of the time without it... a pure propaganda lie vested in selfish self interest . The parasitic cancer of RTE needs to be disposed of asap.


  • #249
    HugoBradyBrown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 547 ✭✭✭HugoBradyBrown


    psychward wrote: »
    We managed to have a culture and society for thousands of years before the existence of RTE and the invention of television yet you have the self regarding egomaniacs at RTE making their propagation of foreign shows and promotion of overpaid mediocre party hacks to be something indispensable to this ancient culture even though it managed to survive under terrible conditions for 99.9% of the time without it... a pure propaganda lie vested in selfish self interest . The parasitic cancer of RTE needs to be disposed of asap.

    This is, I suggest, a touch extreme, even in its very language.


  • #250
    jimmynokia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    anybody here ever heard of the libertas institute?


  • #251
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    To avoid Irish TV being absolute ****e like Z-factory and "I wanna be a celeb" ?

    Wouldn't agree. So you agree with programmes like 'Strongest Man' etc on RTE???!!!!!


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  • #252
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    anybody here ever heard of the libertas institute?

    Ganleys group right?


  • #253
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    psychward wrote: »
    We managed to have a culture and society for thousands of years before the existence of RTE and the invention of television yet you have the self regarding egomaniacs at RTE making their propagation of foreign shows and promotion of overpaid mediocre party hacks to be something indispensable to this ancient culture even though it managed to survive under terrible conditions for 99.9% of the time without it... a pure propaganda lie vested in selfish self interest . The parasitic cancer of RTE needs to be disposed of asap.

    Well said. Watched the 6-1 News tonight. After a lengthy report on the pending Government cuts, a 'political correspondent' (one of many) was wheeled out to explain them further. As if we all didn't know anyway. Perhaps RTE still live under the illusion that this is the Ireland of the 40s and 50s, and that the idiot populace need everything explained to them in minute detail.:rolleyes:


  • #254
    120_Minutes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    anybody here ever heard of the libertas institute?

    The group that has a "Hugo Brown" as a member?


  • #255
    jimmynokia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    mikom wrote: »
    jimmynokia wrote: »
    anybody here ever heard of the libertas institute?

    Ganleys group right?

    Think so cant say much more.


  • #256
    Badgermonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    anybody here ever heard of the libertas institute?
    jimmynokia wrote: »
    Think so cant say much more.

    Not sure what you're getting at here Jimmy?

    The question appears a little loaded. Unless a certain posters membership or otherwise of libertas is somehow at odds with their opinion as expressed on thread, what's the relevance?


  • #257
    jimmynokia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Badgermonkey wrote: »
    jimmynokia wrote: »
    anybody here ever heard of the libertas institute?
    jimmynokia wrote: »
    Think so cant say much more.

    Not sure what you're getting at here Jimmy?

    The question appears a little loaded. Unless a certain posters membership or otherwise of libertas is somehow at odds with their opinion as expressed on thread, what's the relevance?

    all in good time. its very relevant.


  • #258
    patwicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    See poll results so far Yes 215 No 30 :rolleyes:


  • #259
    HugoBradyBrown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 547 ✭✭✭HugoBradyBrown


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    all in good time. its very relevant.

    I would at this point go no further than to advise certain posters to proceed with the utmost care and with the most rigorous attention to detail.


  • #260
    psychward
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭psychward


    HugoBradyBrown wrote: »
    This is, I suggest, a touch extreme, even in its very language.

    You have some nerve criticizing the language of others when RTE engages in censorship of information the public has a right to know about e.g covering up the arrival of the IMF so we had to hear it first from the BBC, a channel which you accuse of jingoism in an unbalanced biased way in order to distract us from your own inadequacies. You are extremely disingenuous in your language. Typical for those who control the flow of information to use this control to do a hatchet job on those they disagree with and ignore the failings of those they support regardless of how many wrongs they do. Lucky for the rest of us your RTE demographic is heading towards the over 50s and your party is nearly over.


  • #261
    HugoBradyBrown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 547 ✭✭✭HugoBradyBrown


    psychward wrote: »
    You have some nerve criticizing the language of others when RTE engages in censorship of information the public has a right to know about e.g covering up the arrival of the IMF so we had to hear it first from the BBC, a channel which you accuse of jingoism in an unbalanced biased way in order to distract us from your own inadequacies. You are extremely disingenuous in your language. Typical for those who control the flow of information to use this control to do a hatchet job on those they disagree with and ignore those they support regardless of how many wrongs they do. Lucky for the rest of us your RTE demographic is heading towards the over 50s and your party is nearly over.

    Well, that is an improvement in tone, I suppose, if not in content.


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  • #262
    psychward
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭psychward


    HugoBradyBrown wrote: »
    Well, that is an improvement in tone, I suppose, if not in content.

    your tone and arrogant sense of entitlement that you in RTE are somehow special never changes sadly.


  • #263
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Hugo Whatsit.
    RTÉ should have a few extra million lying around since the coke fiend that was Gerry Ryan snorted his last line.

    Surely they can put that money to good use, like lowering the licence fee or something.


  • #264
    Super-Rush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    HugoBradyBrown wrote: »
    I would at this point go no further than to advise certain posters to proceed with the utmost care and with the most rigorous attention to detail.

    Why is that?


  • #265
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭STB


    super-rush wrote: »
    Why is that?

    Move it to the terrestrial forum and let icdg deal with it. It is after all where this discussion belongs with the countless other know it all wanna be tax dodgers/commercial operators/whingers.

    Same oul moaners all the time my friend.

    @ Hugo. Do not feel trolls or commercial interests/people that just dont wanna know ?


  • #266
    talkinyite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭talkinyite


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLitEwAxNmQ


  • #267
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    what are you waffling about ive never mentioned anything about job security anywhere ever...

    Quote fail by me, it was in the indo article which was what I meant.


  • #268
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    HugoBradyBrown wrote: »
    If we hold ourselves out to be a distinct state, surely we need to hear and see our own stories, to have our Public Service Broadcaster facilitating us talking to ourselves.

    I agree with the above i.e. that we need some sort of broadcast cultural anchor point and that's what RTE should be.

    I personally think that RTE should be slimmed down to something resembling an actual public broadcasting service because at the moment it seems to be an unwieldy mix of a private and public operation.

    RTE 2 and Radio two have very little in the way of programs that could be deemed culturally important. In fact much of the programming on RTE2 is foreign and those very programs can be gotten for free through the UK FTA satellite service making their purchase an utter waste of money and air time.

    I would advocate concentrating on perhaps 2 TV stations RTE1 & TG4 and 2 radio stations RTE1 and RTE Irish speaking.

    I have to say that RTE sports coverage kicks ass btw.


  • #269
    Super-Rush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    STB wrote: »
    Move it to the terrestrial forum and let icdg deal with it. It is after all where this discussion belongs with the countless other know it all wanna be tax dodgers/commercial operators/whingers.

    Same oul moaners all the time my friend.

    @ Hugo. Do not feel trolls or commercial interests/people that just dont wanna know ?

    Let me worry about where the thread should be.


  • #270
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    STB wrote: »
    Move it to the terrestrial forum and let icdg deal with it.

    Translation:
    Move it to the terrestrial forum where we can bury it and shut down any dissenting voices.


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  • #271
    HugoBradyBrown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 547 ✭✭✭HugoBradyBrown


    ifitburwilll wrote: »
    What about the fact that spar paid €900,000 to brand christies shop a Spar store for the next few years THAT show is more than paying its way it seems.


    Would we all not agree that this is how RTE Drama achieves verisimilitude through prudence? There are few things more evidently fake than concocted commercial names in contemporary drama. The aim is to seduce the viewer into a suspension of disbelief while watching City, as in all great television drama. (And, by the way, I do not have the financial details to hand immediately, but it does seem like a fair bargain - 'fair city', you might say!)


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