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Swim, Bike, Run....if only it was that simple!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Tues Eve 1st Nov

    Plan 20 min Easy Run
    Actual 20 min Easy Run

    Feeling good tonight, I am feeling excited actually about Fridays 30 min TT. I'm really interested to see where my running is. I did this test back in March too. I was in bad shape then.

    HR 143/158; CAD 78; PACE 4:36/km

    Time 22:36
    Dist 4.92km

    So my weekly weigh in

    Last Week 79.4kg (11.4% BF)
    This Week 78.6kg (13.0% BF)

    Weight Target: Less than 78 before the end of Nov :)
    BF Target: Less than 10% before the end of Nov :(

    DQS Today 13

    My Weight in graph form...

    picture.php?albumid=1633&pictureid=11067

    My BF% in graph form...

    picture.php?albumid=1633&pictureid=11068


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    How are you measuring your BF?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    How are you measuring your BF?

    This is what I use MCOS

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/tanita-innerscan-body-fat/

    I got it for a good bit cheaper than that. They are supposed to be pretty accurate. Had I known about the ones that "talk to your garmin" via ANT+ I would have considered that.

    Weds Morn 2nd Nov

    Plan NAC LC Coach Prescribed Set
    Actual NAC SC Coach Prescribed Set

    The NAC is usually LC until 9:30 but for some reason this morning it was SC! Annoyed. There was a test set of sort prescribed for this morning.

    50's des 1_4: 51s, 48s, 47s, 43s.

    100x 8 Best Even Effort: 1:40, 1:42, 1:43, 1:41, 1:40, 1:39, 1:38, 1:37.

    Once I knew I could hold the pace I dug in for the last 4 and really enjoyed the intensity. My RPE for the first 4 was 7 and 9 for the last 4.

    Time 45min
    Dist 1,700m

    Plan Weakness/Core
    Actual Weakness/Core

    Time 30min


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Good work going on ElD and as you say if those numbers are within 10% you will be ripping up bike splits next year.
    It will be interesting to see what the MHR is for your 30min TT run as that bike hr seems way out of whack especially considering the legs were feeling the tough effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Yes JB, I am very much looking forward too Friday's test and the accompanying numbers.

    Weds Eve 2nd Nov

    Plan 45min Easy Run with 5x20s fast/40 rec
    Actual 45min Easy Run with 5x20s fast/40 rec

    Took me a while to get going, into, my stride but as soon as the 5x20's fast were done I was grand. Very windy out there too. The splits for the fast bits are here

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/126027574

    HR 146/176; PACE 4:41/KM; CAD 79;

    Time 45:23
    Dist 9.58km

    Today's DQS

    Down 4 to 9. Mainly because I was eating less today to reflect a low volume in training. Desert , biscuits, can of coke and bag of popcorn gave me a -10.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Thurs Morn 3rd Nov

    Plan Rolling/Core/Weakness
    Actual Rolling/Core/Weakness

    Time 25 min

    Plan Easy 60min Spin
    Actual Easy 60min Spin

    Spinning away watching the last season of Rescue Me. A nice session and good to get it done early so I had the rest of the day to do other stuff

    Time 60min
    Dist 27.3km

    Todays DQS

    Up 5 to 14


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Fri Morn 4th Nov

    Plan Coach Prescribed Session - NAC LC
    Actual Coach Prescribed Session - NAC SC

    Short course again this morning. The main set this morning was 4x 200's at best even effort for all 4. First some descending 50's to get going.

    The 50's: 49s, 45s, 43s, 41s.

    Then the main event:

    The 200's: 3:20(PB), 3:23, 3:26, 3:21. :)

    My previous 200 PB was from last March and was 3:33 - so all 4 were better than that! Delighted with the effort.

    Time 45min
    Dist 1,700m

    Plan Core/Rolling
    Actual Core/Rolling

    Time 30min


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Friday Afternoon 4th Nov

    Plan 30 min Run TT
    Actual 30 min Run TT

    I'd have preferred to do this in the evening but we have a wedding in Donegal this weekend and are heading off now so I had to get it in a mere 4 hours after the pool session.

    I was sure I'd be able to hold a pace somewhere between 3:45 - 3:50/km for this but, despite my coaches warnings, went off to quick. I actually found it hard to put the brakes on as I was feeling so good. In hindsight I did have a breeze on my back and a slight downhill. Actually the first 3k were slightly downhill and the next 4.5k were slightly up but it was really pretty flat. Started out too fast and started suffering from 8th min to 25th before really digging for the finish. like I said, I thought I would do better and my pace would be sub 3:50, but I guess I ruined that by going out too fast. I would like to think that soon enough I could cover 8km in the 30 min, if I can't/don't then I'm wasting my time. We'll see time will tell...but I am very hopeful.

    Here is the detail: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/126372913 (click on "view splits" to see more detail)

    At a glance....

    LTHR 173 (Ave HR for the last 20min)
    FTPa 3:56/km (Ave pace for the entire 30min)
    Dist 7.61km
    Time 30min

    I actually did this test back in Feb, the 11th:

    LTHR 176
    FTPa 4:04/km
    Dist 7.4km
    Time 30min

    Dist (incl WU and CD) 12km
    Time 53min

    Off now to Donegal, bike and all for an early morning spin in my second fav county :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Sat Morn 5th Nov

    Plan At least 2hr spin
    Actual 1.5hr spin

    Love this county. What a beautiful spin in god's county. The sun raising over the mountains on the far side of Lough Swilley, it was breath taking. I'm/we are so lucky to be able to do what we do, thank god I'm not like so many I know wasting time, lying around missing all this. It was the unreal scenery combined with an interview with Mark Pollock I heard on the radio yesterday that had me thinking like this - very very important to be reminded of these things from time to time IMO.

    Had to be back to hotel on a promise at 9:30, so I only got in an hour and a half but as you can see from the ave speed it wasn't exactly a flat ride! Got acquainted with the "Hills of Donegal". Hardly any cars out so it was middle of the road stuff which was great. Some serious, dangerous downhill bits too which I am not comfortable with. Had a route mapped out in my head but due to poor signage I went off course, but it was fine. Even on the small roads the road surface was excellent. I will strongly consider a weekend/week up here for training, did it last year and loved it.

    HR 114/158; SPEED 22.3/52km/h;CAD 80

    Dist 33.4km
    Time 1:30


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,585 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Excellent improvement El D well done. What stands out though is your average HR for the test :confused: seems low, especially for that last 5 min push at 355? I had a 50 min version of that session this weekend and my HR was practically at max at the end.

    I'd suspect that the difference between the run and bike average heart rates is a result of either a lack of leg strength (that is an inability to tax the cardiovascular system) or an inability to hurt.

    I know of one boardsie who had a problem of it being the latter. As far as I know he ended up doing a T20 on a computrainer rig with someone standing over him shouting at him. He learnt the true definition of TT pain that night I believe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    tunney wrote: »
    I'd suspect that the difference between the run and bike average heart rates is a result of either a lack of leg strength (that is an inability to tax the cardiovascular system) or an inability to hurt.

    I know of one boardsie who had a problem of it being the latter. As far as I know he ended up doing a T20 on a computrainer rig with someone standing over him shouting at him. He learnt the true definition of TT pain that night I believe.

    Haha, I've a feeling I know who that is! You could have a point there re hurting, I know how to hurt on the run and deal with it but on the bike it's a different story. Now obviously I had to be pushing relatively hard but I wasn't falling off the bike like the other guys here doing similar tests. I think the next time it will be different as I will be able to pace it better, namely staring on 327 watts and building from there.

    Mon Morn 7th Nov

    Plan Coach Prescribed Session NAC LC
    Actual Coach Prescribed Session NAC LC

    NAC back to normal LC this morning. Think I am getting the hang of the sculling and see the benefits of it. I was getting my hands more involved in the first part of the catch, it actually felt great when I went from the sculling part to the swim part. Delighted with how it felt. There was some R'n'R prescribed and I was delighted - alas it wasn't rest n' relaxation time :( Rock n' Roll - swim normally for three strokes, on your side for six kicks, swim on your side for three strokes, onto your other side for six kicks and so on which Promotes balance and body position. Went well, I actually enjoyed doing it.

    Dist 1,900m
    Time 45min

    Last weeks summary to come later....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Testing Week Summary

    31 Oct-06 Oct|# sessions|Time hh:mm|Distance kms
    Total|13|09:26:43|141.29
    Swimming|2|01:30|3.4
    Cycling|4|04:15:44|111.39
    Running|3|02:00:59|26.5
    Strenth/Core|4|01:40:00|N/A



    Missed Sessions Watch

    This Week 1/13
    Altogether This Block 1
    Overall 7

    The only sessions I miss these days are the Weakness/Core work. I'm trying to fit 5 in per week and I think I know how I can ensure this is done from now on. The Tues and Thurs morning one are not a problem. I'm going to just get up 20 min earlier and fit the exercises in before my swims, just the calf and hamstring work.

    Weekly Weigh In

    Last Week 78.6kg (13.0% BF)
    This Week 79.8kg (12.2% BF)

    Weight Target: Less than 78 before the end of Nov :(
    BF Target: Less than 10% before the end of Nov :)

    My Weight trend in graph form...

    picture.php?albumid=1633&pictureid=11154

    My BF trend in graph form...

    picture.php?albumid=1633&pictureid=11155

    My DQS Today

    20.

    I am aiming for a 5 day score of 80 this week, good start :)

    Mon Eve 7th Nov

    Plan 30 min Easy Run
    Actual 31 min Easy Run

    A crisp evening and enjoyable run. Great to think I haven't had to mention achilles problems for 2 weeks. These easy runs are feeling easy now, this is a great turn around in my attitude towards running in the last 4 weeks.

    HR 134/153; PACE 04:47; CAD 79;

    Time 31:19
    Dist 6.55km


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Tues Morn 8th Nov

    Plan Weakness/Core/Rolling
    Actual Weakness/Core/Rolling

    Time 1hr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Tues Eve 8th Nov

    Plan Easy 45 min Spin
    Actual Easy 45 min Spin

    Just kept it at an easy RPE and cadence >90, loving "An Idiot Abroad 2".

    HR 115; CAD 93; SPEED 25.6km/hr; WATT 169

    Dist 19km
    Time 45 min


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Todays DQS

    25 :) after two days my score is 44 - over half way to my 5 day target score of 80.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Tues Eve 8th Nov

    Plan Easy 45 min Spin
    Actual Easy 45 min Spin

    Just kept it at an easy RPE and cadence >90, loving "An Idiot Abroad 2".

    HR 115; CAD 93; SPEED 25.6km/hr; WATT 169

    Dist 19km
    Time 45 min

    Very enjoyable viewing alright although hard to see where they would go with it now for a third series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    Very enjoyable viewing alright although hard to see where they would go with it now for a third series.

    I thought my taste buds had been mugged! Classic stuff! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    pgibbo wrote: »
    I thought my taste buds had been mugged! Classic stuff! :cool:

    Ya, bloody hilarious stuff :pac: Season 3? An Idiot in Ireland? Or maybe if he finally pops the question - An Idiot Getting Married? Plenty of places to go for such creative people.

    Weds Morn 8th Nov

    Plan Club Swim Session
    Actual Club Swim Session

    First swim session missed since I started 2012 training. I could not sleep until nearly 1am, the alarm went off at 5:15, but I was way to wrecked to be getting up. First time I have rolled over in a long time but sleep is so important for me - I have linked it in the past with having a direct effect on even my motivation to train, if I get little sleep I have little motivation. Annoyed though to have missed a session and have that guilt feeling now. Don't know why I couldn't sleep.

    Weds Eve 8th Nov

    Plan 45 Min Easy Paced Run
    Actual 41 Min Easy Paced Run

    Didn't feel the best doing this, legs were a bit sore - perhaps because I ran out of post training nutrition recently, have to wait for next pay day to order more. I wasn't in great humour all day yesterday - see what happens when you miss a session!

    HR 141/151; PACE 4:53; CAD 79;

    Time 41:36
    Dist 8.51km

    Thurs Morn 9th Nov

    Plan Weakness/Core/Rolling
    Actual Weakness/Core/Rolling

    Yesterday is behind me and today is a new day :)

    Time 45 min


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭Notwitch


    El D, What's your post training nutrition - especially after a 41 min easy run? How would it differ from what you take in after a 2.5 hr easy bike or a 90 min tough swim session?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,585 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Notwitch wrote: »
    El D, What's your post training nutrition - especially after a 41 min easy run? How would it differ from what you take in after a 2.5 hr easy bike or a 90 min tough swim session?

    +1 on this. Recovery products after a 41 min easy run?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    I would only use post recovery products on my long bike, LSRs over 2/2.5hrs or if i had a really tough turbo session where i would just take some PHD recovery mix drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Never said I was using it after easy session guys, just said I have ran out of it recently. Didn't have any after the very hilly session in Donegal on Sat morning and I felt that was still in the legs yesterday. I would only use recovery product (For Goodness Shakes) after a long session or intense session.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    Nice stuff that alright. Have gotten a few pouches here and there but i generally just have some whey if i really think i need it and get a meal into me asap (within 30mins). that reminds me - i must start using the whey again! havent in ages


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Thurs Eve 10th Nov

    Plan 60 min Turbo
    Actual 60 min Turbo

    Struggled to get this session in with two after school meetings but I fitted it in. After getting my hands on some recovery product yesterday my legs seemed back to normal today. Hit a high of 700 watts (for what the flow numbers are worth!)

    HR 117/156; CAD 90/243; DIST 27.8; WATT 186;

    Fri Morn 11th Nov

    Plan NAC LC Coach Prescribed Session
    Actual NAC LC Coach Prescribed Session

    After a WU I got into 8 200's. The 200's came in on ave 3:40-45. I've had a low milage 2 weeks in the pool but still feel pretty good in the water.

    DIST 2,800m
    Time 01:05

    DQS

    First weds score was 18 and yesterday's was 22 so in total for 4 days this week - 84 - already past my 5 day target of 80, aiming for 100 now. I think I will set a weekend target of 40.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    Nice swimming El D.

    You still doing the 8k this weekend?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    You must be stocking up on fruit and solid meals throughout the day to be hitting those good DQS scores, good stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    @PGibbo No not doing it now as I committed to doing the Dublin Intermediate XC next weekend for the running club. A tougher event and full of serious serious runners so would be a good test.

    @jackyback I stock up on seasonal fruit every Sunday, apples, pears and banana's (seasonal or not I always have them-half before a morning session and half after). I get in a salad at lunch unusally and a healthy meal at about 7, usually loads of steamed veg included. At small break a palm full of nuts and a peice of fruit. The minuses would include a bag of crisps or/and a bici :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    Fri Eve 11th Nov

    Plan 30 min Easy Run, with 5x30sec Build
    Actual 30 min Easy Run, with 5x30sec Build

    A nice run, feeling a bit "frisky" again, if you know what I mean! No niggles or injuries to report which is terrific. I have never done so many "easy" sessions - ever! It was wrecking my head earlier this week, just wanting speed session! But I realise that this is what I've always done in the past. To use an analogy My coach uses - "Icing the cake before it's even baked", or something along those lines. Its been remarked many times that I am a patient man, you gotta be to be a teacher, but when it came to training I never was. I am learning patience now and I know that miles now equals a better aerobic engine.

    HR 140/171; PACE 04:43/km

    DIST 6.48km
    Time 30:33

    Today's DQS

    14 Bringing my 5 day score to 98, not bad :) hitting 40 over the weekend will be a huge task.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,585 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Fri Eve 11th Nov

    Plan 30 min Easy Run, with 5x30sec Build
    Actual 30 min Easy Run, with 5x30sec Build

    A nice run, feeling a bit "frisky" again, if you know what I mean! No niggles or injuries to report which is terrific. I have never done so many "easy" sessions - ever! It was wrecking my head earlier this week, just wanting speed session! But I realise that this is what I've always done in the past. To use an analogy My coach uses - "Icing the cake before it's even baked", or something along those lines. Its been remarked many times that I am a patient man, you gotta be to be a teacher, but when it came to training I never was. I am learning patience now and I know that miles now equals a better aerobic engine.

    HR 140/171; PACE 04:43/km

    DIST 6.48km
    Time 30:33

    I believe the expression is
    "Speedwork is the ice on the cake".

    This can be extended to

    "you've not baked your cake yet"

    Or even

    "you've not gone to the shops and bought the ingredients yet"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭El Director


    tunney wrote: »
    I believe the expression is
    "Speedwork is the ice on the cake".

    This can be extended to

    "you've not baked your cake yet"

    Or even

    "you've not gone to the shops and bought the ingredients yet"

    :pac: and what would the ingredients be for an aspiring champion triathlete??!!


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