What would have happened if the Nazi's had won?

ejmaztec · 11-11-2011 05:27PM

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Well that won't make for a fun thread!

It won't take long to read the thread as there'll probably be only one post.

Lawrence1895 · 11-11-2011 05:28PM

Snakeblood wrote: »

I think some leeway would be given.

Nazily,
Snakeblood

Aye. only every second post. The rest would have been signed with 'Sieg Heil', plus a compulsory Swastika in everyone's avatar

Wattle · 11-11-2011 05:30PM

podgemonster wrote: »

We have trains that run on time, home brewed beer halls, affordable Volkswagons and plenty of pork based meals. GAA would be banned and as a result we'd probably have a better soccer team.

We'd just have to sacrifice our freedom and identity as well being openly discriminated towards non Europeans and Jews

Unt ze frauleins mit za big boobies.

sunnysoutheast · 11-11-2011 05:32PM

Your Text Here wrote: »

Didn't Hitler want to turn Ireland into a garden for the Aryans or something?

Also, I don't think the Nazis/Axis would have been allowed to win. I think the war would have went on for as long as it took to destroy them.

It was Himmler, I think, who wanted the Aryan super-race to conceive children in Ireland to "absorb the Celtic spirit".

Germany could never win the war unless they had developed atomic weapons and the means to deploy them on the US and Russia, they were quite simply too short of resources. It was really only Speer's organisational genius that kept a flow of war material until the very end. Had Hitler not switched his initial air attack on Britain in 1940 from fighter bases to the cities then operation Sealion could have succeeded in gaining a foothold, but Germany didn't really have the naval power or air cover to maintain an invasion.

The D-Day invasion was nearly called off due to weather, of course, and it's possible it would have been severely compromised as it relied on the deception of an invasion on the Pas-de-Calais which could not really be maintained given that the entirety of the south coast was covered in soldiers and tanks!

There are quite a few alternative scenarios online, which make interesting reading, most seem to end with a threatened nuclear strike in Europe, following the attacks on Japan, in late 1945 or early 1946 followed by a German surrender.

SSE

Ellis Dee · 11-11-2011 05:34PM

Come to think of it, I once asked my German superior, Siegfried Haeberer, that question. He was a great character, who had been a prisoner-of-war in Lancashire for two years. Then he had worked as an interpreter for an American general and could switch effortlessly from a Texan to an "ee bai gum lad" Lancashire accent. His uncle had been a General in the SS.

Now it was the mid-1960s and a Friday afternoon. We weren't very busy and he offered me a drink before we left for the day.

I asked him. "Have you ever wondered what would have happened if Germany had won the war?"

His reply has stuck in my mind ever since. "If we had, instead of sitting here drinking Johnny Walker Black Label and flicking through Playboy, I'd probably be standing guard in the fcuking rain in some godforsaken asshole of a place in Ireland. And you'd be up on a wet hillside trying to kill me.":D:D

Lawrence1895 · 11-11-2011 05:34PM

Niallwithaz wrote: »

My leaving cert. History teacher told us that had Hitler won, he had plans to turn Ireland into a large concentration camp. Dont know how true that is though.

The 3rd Reich and Hitler were of course discussed in German schools to a very high extent, considering, some of the teachers, I had, grew up under Hitler. But turning Ireland into a concentration camp? I suppose, that's a myth. Ireland was never seen as an enemy, more like a potential ally, as far as I remember...England as the common enemy and stuff like that.

Ellis Dee · 11-11-2011 05:36PM

Niallwithaz wrote: »

My leaving cert. History teacher told us that had Hitler won, he had plans to turn Ireland into a large concentration camp. Dont know how true that is though.

He never managed to implement those plans. They had to wait for Merkel ---

Fratton Fred · 11-11-2011 05:47PM

All the countries west of the Rhine would be run on a similar basis to Vichy France, east of the Rhine there would have been mass death camps and factories filled with slaves.

Lawrence1895 · 11-11-2011 05:49PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

All the countries west of the Rhine would be run on a similar basis to Vichy France, east of the Rhine there would have been mass death camps and factories filled with slaves.

That sounds quite familiar to what I have learned in school

Niallwithaz · 11-11-2011 05:50PM

Lars1916 wrote: »

The 3rd Reich and Hitler were of course discussed in German schools to a very high extent, considering, some of the teachers, I had, grew up under Hitler. But turning Ireland into a concentration camp? I suppose, that's a myth. Ireland was never seen as an enemy, more like a potential ally, as far as I remember...England as the common enemy and stuff like that.

England was hardly seen as an enemy to the Irish at that time. Maybe twenty years before, but by the time of WW2 surely we had settled our differences. Sure didn't de Valera communicate with Churchill. We'd of hardly sided with Hitler when we'd already shown ourselves to be pro-allies. Ireland, even today, has never been fully neutral. On the outside yeah, but we very much pick sides. But I agree that the Irish concentration camp may have been bull.

Batsy · 11-11-2011 05:50PM

Fishooks12 wrote: »

What would have happened to Ireland?

Ireland would have been a part of the 1,000 year Third Reich; the Irish would all be speaking German; and you would all have blond hair and blue eyes.

Fishooks12 · 11-11-2011 05:51PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

All the countries west of the Rhine would be run on a similar basis to Vichy France, east of the Rhine there would have been mass death camps and factories filled with slaves.

Ya I can imagine Eastern Europe being a very bleak place

KeithAFC · 11-11-2011 05:51PM

Just mini uprisings all over the place. Would never have lasted.

podgemonster · 11-11-2011 05:51PM

Fishooks12 wrote: »

We already do infairness

Irish Rail may be very over-priced but as someone who uses them frequently I can vouch that they're rarely if ever late

Fair enough, more trains then. and trams and an underground network. And tickets would work on trains, trams and buses (who would run on time).

Madam · 11-11-2011 06:00PM

We would all have been slaughtered, if indeed you go by the belief that we are all descended from one of the lost tribes of Israel:(

Zebra3 · 11-11-2011 06:06PM

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Thankfully the good guys won but.....

Good guys? What planet are you on?

Have you any ideas about the crimes committed by the USSR on its own people?

The genocide commited in the US on the native population? US crimes in Vietnam?

And won't even mention those carried out by the French and British empires. :rolleyes:

Fishooks12 wrote: »

We'd have one less conflict in the middle east I'm guessing but what else would have happened?

There'd be nothing on the History Channel.

Cú Giobach · 11-11-2011 06:07PM

We would be living in the stone age again, due to the nuclear war that would have ensued as the Germans and Americans fought for control of the seas and subsequent control of world trade (which the Americans gained as a result of WWII).

Pherekydes · 11-11-2011 06:07PM

We'd need a lot more natural gas.

The simple fact is that the Russians would never have given in. By D-Day, the tide had already turned in the east. The Russians were quite prepared to fight a war of annihilation.

mojesius · 11-11-2011 06:13PM

Ryanair would be called 'Rhineheir'

Force136 · 11-11-2011 06:14PM

I was going to say Ireland would have then been full of Nazis.

But you guys invited them in anyway.

Thankfully we defeated them, no thanks to Ireland.

Chuck Stone · 11-11-2011 06:14PM

Wouldn't have lasted long imo. Imperial overstretch and all that.

Zebra3 · 11-11-2011 06:16PM

Force136 wrote: »

I was going to say Ireland would have then been full of Nazis.

But you guys invited them in anyway.

Thankfully we defeated them, no thanks to Ireland.

You're Russian then, yeah?

ejmaztec · 11-11-2011 06:17PM

Cú Giobach wrote: »

We would be living in the stone age again, due to the nuclear war that would have ensued as the Germans and Americans fought for control of the seas and subsequent control of world trade (which the Americans gained as a result of WWII).

The Americans wouldn't have transported 3500 tons of German scientific research and patents out of Germany (which they did in reality), and would have missed out big-time on that one.

The Americans would have had rockets raining down on them until they threw in the towel, and the Reichsmark would have been the world currency.

Fratton Fred · 11-11-2011 06:18PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Good guys? What planet are you on?

Have you any ideas about the crimes committed by the USSR on its own people?

The genocide commited in the US on the native population? US crimes in Vietnam?

And won't even mention those carried out by the French and British empires. :rolleyes:

There'd be nothing on the History Channel.

As bad as all those acts were, none of them created industrialised death camps on the scale of the nazis. They exterminated 6 million people despite waging a war on all fronts, imagine if they could turn more resources to it?

Pherekydes · 11-11-2011 06:20PM

Force136 wrote: »

I was going to say Ireland would have then been full of Nazis.

But you guys invited them in anyway.

Thankfully we defeated them, no thanks to Ireland.

Hey, don't blame us. I was born in 1960. And some Irishmen joined the allied forces to do their bit.

Force136 · 11-11-2011 06:20PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

You're Russian then, yeah?

British.

Two world wars.

The first you spent fellating the Germans and trying to use their war against us, as a distraction for your bombing campaign.

The second one you decided to 'remain neutral' - and by that I mean you sat on the sidelines cheering the Germans and then allowed in the Nazi war criminals to live in Ireland.

My, what a wonderful and rich history Ireland has. <puke>

Bobby Baccala · 11-11-2011 06:21PM

i would be emperor.

mojesius · 11-11-2011 06:22PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

As bad as all those acts were, none of them created industrialised death camps on the scale of the nazis. They exterminated 6 million people despite waging a war on all fronts, imagine if they could turn more resources to it?

Stalin killed an estd. 20 million Russians

Funglegunk · 11-11-2011 06:23PM

Niallwithaz wrote: »

My leaving cert. History teacher told us that had Hitler won, he had plans to turn Ireland into a large concentration camp. Dont know how true that is though.

Just like Leeson St.

Zebra3 · 11-11-2011 06:23PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

As bad as all those acts were, none of them created industrialised death camps on the scale of the nazis. They exterminated 6 million people despite waging a war on all fronts, imagine if they could turn more resources to it?

It's amazing how brainwashed people are that they only think of that figure cos it's associated with the number of jewish deaths. Conveniently forgotten are Germans, Poles, the disabled, Soviet PoWs and the Roma amongst others.

The fact that the others didn't kill people in that way doesn't make them good guys. Maybe not as evil, but defo not good.

What would have happened if the Nazi's had won?

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