Pronounciation

IsaMtq · 10-11-2011 03:38PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Shouldn't that be Stupid?

It absolutely should!

The King of Moo · 10-11-2011 03:40PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Maybe somebody more learned than myself can assist here. I recall distinctly watching England square off against Romania in the soccer in one of the European Championships. The commentators would say Roo-mania rather than Ro-mania. I could just be a BBC thing?

By the way, that would make one lame and lazy pun if Rooney were to score against them.

I'm not 100% but I'm fairly sure that might be a pretty old pronunciation of the country's name, or at least one based on an old spelling.

I've seen it spelt "Rumania" or sometimes maybe "Roumania" in old books from the 19th/early 20th century.

Gophur · 10-11-2011 04:11PM

jmayo wrote: »

Well seen [sic] as it was Leeds, was the reporter/newscaster also from Yorkshire which would explain An Otel, just like they would describe a person going "on Oliday" to Spain.

BTW they also forget to use the word "the" in sentences.

It was BBC Radio 2, a national station.

As for the Yorkshire vernacular? With people in their country speaking like the Yorkshire folk, the English have no call to criticise any foreigner for speaking "funny".

Contessa Raven · 10-11-2011 04:22PM

Pherekydes wrote: »

Why do people say eck setera for et cetera?

This does my nut in. There's an advert on TV for a company called Beds Etc. and the voiceover man pronounces it "eck setera".
I get irrationally angry when I hear him say it because he is supposed to be a professional voiceover artist and yet he cannot pronounce the word correctly. :mad::mad::mad:

*deep breaths*

Edit: rich.d.berry already said this. But the point still stands! It makes me mad!

HugoBradyBrown · 10-11-2011 04:24PM

And how should we pronounce the names of these two groups of dancers, the Cholmondeleys and the Featherstonehaughs?

Hugo Brady Brown

Shivers26 · 10-11-2011 04:24PM

bluewolf wrote: »

husbag?

Let me have husbag, I get fed up saying OH and we're not married yet.

At least I didn't say DP, DF, DH or similar

rich.d.berry · 10-11-2011 04:38PM

Contessa Raven wrote: »

This does my nut in. There's an advert on TV for a company called Beds Etc. and the voiceover man pronounces it "eck setera".
I get irrationally angry when I hear him say it because he is supposed to be a professional voiceover artist and yet he cannot pronounce the word correctly. :mad::mad::mad:

*deep breaths*

Snap! Didn't think anyone else would feel the same way about the advert. :cool:

rich.d.berry wrote: »

The Beds Etc. advert on TV bugs me.

Surely if you pay for and advert you insist that the voice artist gets your company name right!

He says ek-set-ra

Correct pronunciation is et-set-ra

Unavailable for Comment · 10-11-2011 04:40PM

People mispronouncing wary as weary.

I was on an induction course before where the instructor spent 30 minutes stressing how jaded we should be about electricity, unfinished scaffolds, open pits, machinery.

Damn, builders are laid back!

Yakuza · 10-11-2011 04:46PM

Shenshen wrote: »

Jalapeno
Original pronounciation would be Ha-la-pen-yo. People here pronounce it Ha-la-pee-no...

Ha-la-pay-no would be what a Spanish-speaking person would say if they saw "Jalapeno" written somewhere.
It should be written Jalapeño to get the "nyeh" sound, but it's not in our alphabet (or our keyboards, with out some fancy work on the alt / numeric keypad)

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

Or Mr Noonan with his 'billons' and 'millons' and 'Itallans".

Agreed - what also grinds my gears is the way he says years - "We'll be looking at a deficit of blah billon(sic) in two faarrteen"

Now, unless he's invented a time machine and can bring us all back almost 1800 years into the past, he's talking up his ar5e.

HugoBradyBrown · 10-11-2011 05:25PM

Yakuza wrote: »

Ha-la-pay-no would be what a Spanish-speaking person would say if they saw "Jalapeno" written somewhere.
It should be written Jalapeño to get the "nyeh" sound, but it's not in our alphabet (or our keyboards, with out some fancy work on the alt / numeric keypad)

Agreed - what also grinds my gears is the way he says years - "We'll be looking at a deficit of blah billon(sic) in two faarrteen"

Now, unless he's invented a time machine and can bring us all back almost 1800 years into the past, he's talking up his ar5e.

And talking of 'years', there's that idiosyncratic way that Mr Alan Shatter TD says ''yers' or 'yurs' or something like that, always and everywhere.

Yers and yurs ago we always said 'years'.

Hugo Brady Brown

Yakuza · 10-11-2011 05:27PM

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

And talking of 'years', there's that idiosyncratic way that Mr Alan Shatter TD says ''yers' or 'yurs' or something like that, always and everywhere.

Yers and yurs ago we always said 'years'.

Hugo Brady Brown

That's something I see on Sky News - "That's the sickth time that has happened this yaahhh". It must be an RP thing.

HugoBradyBrown · 10-11-2011 05:28PM

The humble noun 'farmer' and its plural form 'farmers' have changed greatly for the worse in recent decades.

It was Ray McSharry who started the rot, back in the 1980's when he was Minister for Agriculture, even though he's only from Sligo. He started saying 'formers' instead of 'farmers'. Now almost everyone, from Mr McSharry up, is failing in the same way; even farmers themselves, who would once have described themslves as 'faaarmers', 'farrrmers' or 'farumers' have gone soft and are saying 'formers'.

Hugo Brady Brown

HugoBradyBrown · 10-11-2011 05:34PM

And, though it's off-topic, but in the same Grumpy Old Area, there is the damage that Dick Spring did to the English language in Ireland in the early 1990's, when he didn't understand what the 'body politic' means. It looks as if he heard the term somewhere, got a vague idea that it had something to do with politics, and then started dropping it sombrely into every serious interview going forward. As a result of ever dog and divil of a journalist without a dictionary copying him, it has come to mean (though only in Ireland) the small class of professional politicians who are elected.

Another good term deprived of useful meaning by the unchallenged ignorance of a politician.

Hugo Brady Brown

foxyboxer · 10-11-2011 05:37PM

* Watching Snooker *

"..and that's a great shot there by Ken Dockerty"

Eroticfishcake · 10-11-2011 06:43PM

It shouldn't annoy me but it does when commentators say Tim Kayhill for Tim Cahill as this is how he pronounces it.

Also Liam/Noel Gallager with the 'h' dropped drives me mad.

Millicent · 10-11-2011 07:09PM

Newsreaders and politicians saying the word "finance" make me want to sever a vital artery with my teeth.

What the fuck is fin-ance, you cretins? It's pronounced bloody fine-ance!

10-11-2011 07:29PM

Eroticfishcake wrote: »

It shouldn't annoy me but it does when commentators say Tim Kayhill for Tim Cahill as this is how he pronounces it.

Also Liam/Noel Gallager with the 'h' dropped drives me mad.

And who is this Chris Eubanks? never seen him before.

HugoBradyBrown · 10-11-2011 07:55PM

Millicent wrote: »

Newsreaders and politicians saying the word "finance" make me want to sever a vital artery with my teeth.

What the fuck is fin-ance, you cretins? It's pronounced bloody fine-ance!

I suggest that they may be correct and the poster wrong.

The leading authority in this case is Penelope Keith, in the role of Mrs Audrey Forbes-Hamilton in the TV drama To The Manor Born, where she clarifies for her slightly duller sidekick that it is indeed "fin'ance" and not "fine'ance."

The pronunciation derives from the French, and has been naturalized in English these three hundred years and more. (Consider, for example, Dryden, Pepys, Johnson, to name only three earlier authorities.)

Had the poster lived among us a little longer, she or he would have known that too and not descended into unnecessary rage.

Hugo Brady Brown

Richard · 10-11-2011 08:05PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Maybe somebody more learned than myself can assist here. I recall distinctly watching England square off against Romania in the soccer in one of the European Championships. The commentators would say Roo-mania rather than Ro-mania. I could just be a BBC thing?

By the way, that would make one lame and lazy pun if Rooney were to score against them.

The English spelling of the country used to be Rumania, and some older people in the UK still pronounce it that way.

Richard · 10-11-2011 08:07PM

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

And how should we pronounce the names of these two groups of dancers, the Cholmondeleys and the Featherstonehaughs?

Chumleys and, er, I give up.

DebDynamite · 10-11-2011 08:08PM

When people say "threadmill" instead of "treadmill". There's no H :mad:

Richard · 10-11-2011 08:14PM

foxyboxer wrote: »

* Watching Snooker *

"..and that's a great shot there by Ken Dockerty"

To be fair, standard English doesn't have the "ough" sound that we use for words such as Lough. It's like when Chinese people sometimes can't pronounce the "r" sound when leaning English as it doesn't exist in Chinese and they aren't used to it. People in England subliminally replace the "ough" sound with "ock" as the mouth shape you make when saying them is similar.

HugoBradyBrown · 10-11-2011 08:30PM

And how should we pronounce the names of these two groups of dancers, the Cholmondeleys and the Featherstonehaughs?

Richard wrote: »

Chumleys and, er, I give up.

Very good. The other one is something like Fanshaws, although some people think that it is pronounced Coburn.

Hugo Brady Brown

10-11-2011 08:39PM

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

she clarifies for her slightly duller sidekick that it is indeed "fin'ance" and not "fine'ance."

Had the poster lived among us a little longer, she or he would have known that too and not descended into unnecessary rage.

I'm with Millicent on this one. It really annoys me.

Right or wrong, fin'ance makes the person saying it sound like a stuck up ****. The same goes for a lot of that newsreader-speak.

Richard · 10-11-2011 08:51PM

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

Very good. The other one is something like Fanshaws, although some people think that it is pronounced Coburn.

Coburn?

I think the main reason I know Chomondley is due to that Harry Enfield sketch.

HugoBradyBrown · 10-11-2011 08:56PM

Richard wrote: »

Coburn?

I think the main reason I know Chomondley is due to that Harry Enfield sketch.

Cockburn is pronounced Coburn (for some unfathomable reason), so the latter is often offered as the pronunciation of any odd-looking surname, no matter how distant its spelling from Cockburn. A sophomoric joke, perhaps.

Hugo Brady Brown

Richard · 10-11-2011 08:57PM

There's also Magdalen - it's "Magdalen" for the order of nuns, but "Maudlin" for the Oxford college, isn't it?

HugoBradyBrown · 10-11-2011 08:59PM

true-or-false wrote: »

I'm with Millicent on this one. It really annoys me.

Right or wrong, fin'ance makes the person saying it sound like a stuck up ****. The same goes for a lot of that newsreader-speak.

I am beginning to think that people here are not interested in agreeing on what is the objectively and historically correct pronunciation of words, but in getting the world and his wife to pronounce words according to our own personal likes, standards and idiolect. Imagine if we were all to feel like that, how unhappy the world would be.

Hugo Brady Brown

Alice1 · 10-11-2011 09:05PM

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

I am beginning to think that people here are not interested in agreeing on what is the objectively and historically correct pronunciation of words, but in getting the world and his wife to pronounce words according to our own personal likes, standards and idiolect. Imagine if we were all to feel like that, how unhappy the world would be.

Hugo Brady Brown

The original poster, drumlover, asked us if there were pronounciations that annoyed us and we are telling him/her which ones we each dislike. Hokay?

FruitLover · 10-11-2011 09:06PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Lurry instead of Lorry.

Not as bad as 'dunkey' (instead of 'donkey')

rich.d.berry wrote: »

Another one that bugs me is when people say height-th

Not as bad as 'troath'...

RichieC wrote: »

eyetalions..... some dubs say gold for goal.. and goaldy...

Also oiyord'n for iron

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