We're not as rough as we used to be

Everyone became too pc trying to become popular on the Internet.

I bet secretly, they're just as racist and anti English as their fathers/forfathers.

Can Boards maybe set up a "We" Irish are xyz forum? Folks can bitch about their fellow countryfolk, speak for countless people they've never met, not lift a finger despite wanting change, and wallow in insecurity and their inferiority complex to their hearts' content - while exempting themselves from all these bitchfests despite being Irish too.

Someone clearly listens to their iPod.

Ireland (and Britain too) is full of language that would make many Americans' hair curl!

We're far from polite or PC about language usage anyway.

I don't really buy into this notion that we're being push overs. We basically destroyed Fianna Fail earlier this year. That's like the British getting rid of the Tories or the Americans getting rid of the Republicans. It's almost unheard of on a global scale. FF were utterly dominant in Irish politics since the foundation of the state and now they're treated like some kind of bad smell.

I don't think Irish people have to protest as much as say the French, who were always lumbered with a 7-year quasi-king like President who could do almost anything and often did very unpopular things.

We've a nice healthy situation where the Government lives in daily fear of the electorate.

Just because we've more cop on than to burn half of Dublin or Cork or whatever down, does not mean that we're push-overs.

When push comes to shove, if the current Government does not perform, they'll also find themselves out on their rear ends.

We just don't have to be 'rough' to get things done.

Dudess wrote: »

Op, don't know - not obsessed with how I'm perceived by other nationalities. But I don't think I've become any more sophisticated in the last 20 years.

Would you not have been a young child/early teen 20 years ago? So were you an extremely sophisticated young un' or are you still collecting stickers or cutting out pictures from Smash Hits because they are soooooooo dreamy :o:o:eek::eek::eek:

:pac:

Anywho...I think the country has become more sophisticated. We are more exposed to other cultures and to my eyes seem more worldly than before. There was a certain Irish person that would only eat meat and veg followed by an apple tart, who drank nothing but pints,Insert examples here etc etc.

Obviously we had some people that were sophisticated, but I think wider levels of education, greater exposure to different cultures etc has changed the nation. I know my parents would have been very unsophisticated 20 years ago and have changed massively in their tastes as the country changed.

fryup wrote: »

have utter contempt for anyone trying to better themselves "who the hell do thay think they are":mad:

That hasn't gone away you know

kfallon wrote: »

There's me at the start of the clip too on him,

Shouldn't you be busy having an affair with your employer's wife?

You swine

I definitely think there's a lot of begrudgery. I also think it holds Irish people back. I think a lot of people are afraid to try anything too ambitious because of the attitude that they were too big for their boots while they were doing it and the sick pleasure that many others would take from watching them fail were that to happen. Contrast with Americans who would look at these things as learning experiences. (Huge generalization obviously)

On the upside though, I do think that it is a product of the 80's and harder times before. Those who grew up in Celtic Tiger Ireland engage in begrudgery much less I think. I generally see successful, together people as cool. I'm certainly not saying my generation are angels. It might just be that we're too self-centred, as opposed to too mature, to obsess over what other people are doing. But whatever the cause, it's a good thing imo.