Barbaric- Fury at big game hunter’s exotic haul

ItsAWindUp · 06-11-2011 03:31PM

Einhard wrote: »

Well at least you have the courage of your convictions then. Can you change your thread title to reflect that you think all the rest of us meat eaters are barbarous cowards too?

I could but people may be offended;)

Winty · 06-11-2011 03:32PM

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

They should leave them the f uck alone tbh.

That is your way and fair play to you but I enjoy hunting and when my kids are old enought I will show them how to kill an animal with compassion and if I had the money I would kill an elephant and enjoy it

irishgeo · 06-11-2011 03:33PM

i didnt know elephant and hippo were edible.

Winty · 06-11-2011 03:34PM

irishgeo wrote: »

i didnt know elephant and hippo were edible.

?

You can eat all meat why is a hippo different to a pig

CrazyRabbit · 06-11-2011 03:36PM

I've no problem with (non endangered) animals being hunted for food. That's the nature of things.

But I do have a problem with people doing it for enjoyment or sport. Anyone who gets a perverse satisfaction from killing animals is in need of psychological help in my humble opinion.

It's the context that's important.

ItsAWindUp · 06-11-2011 03:36PM

Winty wrote: »

That is your way and fair play to you but I enjoy hunting and when my kids are old enought I will show them how to kill an animal with compassion and if I had the money I would kill an elephant and enjoy it

Glad to see those children will have a such a compassionate upbringing as being taught to slaughter animals that pose them no harm, and to consider it enjoyable

People like you who hunt purely for your own entertainment make me sick tbh, and I recommend that you seek professional help.

RussellTuring · 06-11-2011 03:41PM

I don't see how he's much worse than anyone else who eats meat, except perhaps that he goes to so much effort to kill. Malice is probably worse than ignorance.

irishgeo · 06-11-2011 03:41PM

Winty wrote: »

?

You can eat all meat why is a hippo different to a pig

i dont see hippo or elephant steak listed on irish menus.

Einhard · 06-11-2011 03:41PM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

I've no problem with (non endangered) animals being hunted for food. That's the nature of things.

But I do have a problem with people doing it for enjoyment or sport. Anyone who gets a perverse satisfaction from killing animals is in need of psychological help in my humble opinion.

It's the context that's important.

But the vast majority of hunters shoot for enjoyment, and make no bones about the fact. The fact that they bag something for dinner at the end is just an added bonus. Very few people these days go out and shoot solely with an aim to put food on the the table.

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

Glad to see those children will have a such a compassionate upbringing as being taught to slaughter animals that pose them no harm, and to consider it enjoyable People like you who hunt purely for your own entertainment make me sick tbh, and I recommend that you seek professional help.

In all fairness, IAWU, I think you're being somewhat dishonest. If you think the man in the article and Winty are sick for hunting for pleasure, then you must think I'm sick for eating meat for pleasure. If so, then you should come out and say it so we can get the full context of your remarks; if you don't think I'm sick, then why the hypocrisy?

Coriolanus · 06-11-2011 03:43PM

irishgeo wrote: »

i dont see hippo or elephant steak listed on irish menus.

You rarely see rabbit or deer either though, that doesn't mean that they're not edible as well does it?

ItsAWindUp · 06-11-2011 03:43PM

Einhard wrote: »

But the vast majority of hunters shoot for enjoyment, and make no bones about the fact. The fact that they bag something for dinner at the end is just an added bonus. Very few people these days go out and shoot solely with an aim to put food on the the table.

In all fairness, IAWU, I think you're being somewhat dishonest. If you think the man in the article and Winty are sick for hunting for pleasure, then you must think I'm sick for eating meat for pleasure. If so, then you should come out and say it so we can get the full context of your remarks; if you don't think I'm sick, then why the hypocrisy?

There is a difference, albeit a small one IMO.

Winty · 06-11-2011 03:44PM

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

and I recommend that you seek professional help.

I am, when I have the money I will use a professional game hunter to help me track a bull elephant for my daughter to kill.

It will be a good day

The Snipe · 06-11-2011 03:46PM

Temptamperu wrote: »

So was watching gladitorial battles, should we bring back those because we used to do it?

Do people still watch wrestling? Its still violence; theres no real difference.

Voodu Child · 06-11-2011 03:47PM

It takes a big tough man to get driven around in a jeep and protected by locals, get pointed in the direction of an animal and then shoot it from 50 feet away with a rifle.

Einhard · 06-11-2011 03:48PM

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

There is a difference, albeit a small one IMO.

So you think I'm slightly less sick for eating meat than this man who shoots it and then eats it? Glad we cleared that up.:D

Although, I would have thought you'd be more angry at the likes of em who "cowardly" have someone else kill our dinner. At least this guy goes out and gets his hands dirty.

ItsAWindUp · 06-11-2011 03:49PM

Winty wrote: »

I am, when I have the money I will use a professional game hunter to help me track a bull elephant for my daughter to kill.

It will be a good day

I hope your daughter will be proud of herself, slaughtering an animal that poses her no threat, needlessly butchering an innocent an defenceless creature to get her, and your, sick kicks. What a kind-hearted individual that girl will turn out to be I'm sure.

irishgeo · 06-11-2011 03:55PM

Nevore wrote: »

You rarely see rabbit or deer either though, that doesn't mean that they're not edible as well does it?

i know they are edible.

I never heard of people eating elephant or rhino before, that was my point.

Einhard · 06-11-2011 03:55PM

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

I hope your daughter will be proud of herself, slaughtering an animal that poses her no threat, needlessly butchering an innocent an defenceless creature to get her, and your, sick kicks. What a kind-hearted individual that girl will turn out to be I'm sure.

LOL or maybe she'll turn out to be a butcher!! Speaking of which, I'm off to marinate the poor innocent ickle lamb which my local abattoir kindly murdered for me during the week, and my local butcher so nicely ripped apart into presentable cuts of yummy meat!

SteveDon · 06-11-2011 04:01PM

What is the problem here really, the animals aren't endangered so who cares really? Complete non-story.

Dont think i could do it myself, but who am i to judge someone if they want to kill an elephant and eat it. It would be hypocritical of me considering all the meat i eat.

Its human nature to hunt. Its human nature to eat meat.

Get over it, or go marry a swan or something.

The Snipe · 06-11-2011 04:01PM

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

I hope your daughter will be proud of herself, slaughtering an animal that poses her no threat, needlessly butchering an innocent an defenceless creature to get her, and your, sick kicks. What a kind-hearted individual that girl will turn out to be I'm sure.

Just for your 'hunting for sports' comments, the definition of hunting is:

Hunting is the practice of pursuing any living thing, usually wildlife, for food, recreation, or trade.

Its part of human nature..

Its been around since before human's were around, ever since the basic forms of humanoids, and quite possibly much before. We are not as advanced as you would like to think we are, as we are only a scratch on the time that this earth has been around - with the ammount of species that have become extinct before and while we were around, most of which we wouldn't even have known about. Its nature way of natural selection and evolution, They will eventually evolve to outdo our hunting methods, or they will be eradicated. And the same will happen for us.

ItsAWindUp · 06-11-2011 04:02PM

SteveDon wrote: »

What is the problem here really, the animals aren't endangered so who cares really? Complete non-story.

Dont think i could do it myself, but who am i to judge someone if they want to kill an elephant and eat it. It would be hypocritical of me considering all the meat i eat.

Its human nature to hunt. Its human nature to eat meat.

Get over it, or go marry a swan or something.

Humans aren't endangered, should it be acceptable to hunt and kill them?

irishgeo · 06-11-2011 04:03PM

The people who say doubt eat much get on my nerves , if we didnt eat meat and butcher animals , i doubt we(as in humans) would be around today.

hunting them for sport or so you can an animals stuffed head on your wall is a different matter which i dont agree with.

ItsAWindUp · 06-11-2011 04:04PM

irishgeo wrote: »

The people who say doubt eat much get on my nerves , if we didnt eat meat and butcher animals , i doubt we(as in humans) would be around today.

hunting them for sport or so you can an animals stuffed head on your wall is a different matter which i dont agree with.

Fair point, but we don't need to do it anymore.

Sonics2k · 06-11-2011 04:04PM

XiledSniper wrote: »

Hunting was often popular in the past for recreational pourposes.

Klling an animal with a sniper rifle, from a few hundred yards away is not the same as the old style hunting.

What he's doing is taking potshots at an animal from a safe distance, because he know's he'd get killed or hurt if he actually took it on properly, like the real hunters used too.

The Snipe · 06-11-2011 04:05PM

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

Humans aren't endangered, should it be acceptable to hunt and kill them?

We do that anyway dont we.

irishgeo · 06-11-2011 04:08PM

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

Fair point, but we don't need to do it anymore.

if the human population didnt eat meat of any kind, what to you expect it to survive on?

we cant feed the population we have as it is.

SteveDon · 06-11-2011 04:10PM

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

Humans aren't endangered, should it be acceptable to hunt and kill them?

Obviously not, we are above animals. And we are even the masters of certain species of animals.

Survival of the fittest.

Animals are useful to us. The world is our oyster, we are the top of the food chain. Get used to it.

thisguy · 06-11-2011 04:16PM

SteveDon wrote: »

What is the problem here really, the animals aren't endangered so who cares really? Complete non-story.

Dont think i could do it myself, but who am i to judge someone if they want to kill an elephant and eat it. It would be hypocritical of me considering all the meat i eat.

Its human nature to hunt. Its human nature to eat meat.

Get over it, or go marry a swan or something.

Boom!

RussellTuring · 06-11-2011 04:25PM

irishgeo wrote: »

if the human population didnt eat meat of any kind, what to you expect it to survive on?

we cant feed the population we have as it is.

Have you ever heard of vegetarians? They're strange people who manage to survive without eating meat.

We can't feed the population we have because food isn't distributed based on need, but on wealth. Nevertheless, we could have even more food for humans if we didn't feed billions of animals every year only to ultimately kill them, along with more land.

irishgeo · 06-11-2011 04:32PM

RussellTuring wrote: »

Have you ever heard of vegetarians? They're strange people who manage to survive without eating meat.

We can't feed the population we have because food isn't distributed based on need, but on wealth. Nevertheless, we could have even more food for humans if we didn't feed billions of animals every year only to ultimately kill them, along with more land.

heard of them strange people all right but are they getting all the essential nutrients and minerals need to for a healthy body?

thats doesnt make any sense, we would not have more food for humans if were not killing animals. we could technically grow more plant food (rice etc) but would it be enough to replace what food we lost when we stop eating animals. i doubt that.

Barbaric- Fury at big game hunter’s exotic haul

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