Are Irish people too soft or just gullible?

profitius · 03-11-2011 04:15PM #1

Letting international fraudsters take billions of Euro from us without putting up a fight.

The Icelandic people said no and the banks backed down. Little Iceland of a few hundred thousand people. Enda Kenny and his friends meanwhile talked up a good game before the last general election but when it came to actions he backed down like the cowards they are.

Brian Cowen and Lenihan helped get us into this mess. Not only that but they were getting advice from the same international bankers thats robbing every country! Now we'll get loans from the same bankers and they'll charge us interest. You couldn't make this up! Its almost comical at this stage.

You also have the media saying we owe this or we owe that. No we don't. The Irish media are a bunch of gullible fools too.

David McWilliams, Irish economist, broadcaster, and writer, says of the IMF, ‘It is not here to bail us out; it is here to bail [the banks] out. The bailout is a bailout for the banks of Germany and France and the Irish taxpayer foots the bill. It is that simple. And where will the EU and IMF money come from? It will be borrowed from the very investment banks that will be bailed out. So they will get interest payments from us, in order that we pay for their mistakes.’

But to answer my own question maybe we just have to take a look at Bertie Ahern. He ran the country into the ground but... he has a nice personality! :rolleyes:

Where To · 03-11-2011 04:19PM

The word 'gullible' has been removed from the Oxford English Dictionary

TheZohanS · 03-11-2011 04:20PM

A bunch of moaners that do nothing and if anyone does try to do something or protest we moan about them too.

jonnny68 · 03-11-2011 04:20PM

Absolutely, look at people in Greece out demonstrating in their hundreds of thousands, this country is quite possibly the most corrupt in the civilised world and it beggars belief why people have allowed this to happen, people like Bertie Ahern, Brian Cowen,Sean Fitzpatrick,etc,etc,etc should be rotting in jail for what they have done to this country yet these people live a grand life while people struggle on the dole to make ends meet and people emigrate in their droves because there are no jobs,people losing their homes,etc.

What Ireland needs is a Revolution and change, real change because this poxy Government are every bit as bad as the last one.

smash · 03-11-2011 04:21PM

I think we just don't really give a fcuk... or we're lazy.

fedor.2. · 03-11-2011 04:22PM

smash wrote: »

I think we just don't really give a fcuk... or we're lazy.

This. Sure somebody else will do it.

Jimoslimos · 03-11-2011 04:23PM

where do i go from here wrote: »

The word 'gullible' has been removed from the Oxford English Dictionary

Has it really? I've just checked and.......oh hold on one minute, I see what you've done there!

charlemont · 03-11-2011 04:24PM

Both. People have too much respect here for the political financial class.

starlit · 03-11-2011 04:24PM

I am sorry hasn't a banker recently been arrested for having exiled himself to the states can't remember his name. He behind anglo irish bank any ways. Sean something.

mikemac · 03-11-2011 04:25PM

Relax OP, we've turned a corner

castletownman · 03-11-2011 04:27PM

Of course they are, sure they bowed to the Catholic Church and Archbishop McQuaid for far too long!

starlit · 03-11-2011 04:28PM

Sean McAteer is it?

Dotrel · 03-11-2011 04:28PM

We are a nation who expect nothing from our government and are rarely disappointed.

AnonoBoy · 03-11-2011 04:31PM

I think we can take Slovenia. It'll all be grand.

MungBean · 03-11-2011 04:32PM

People havent experienced "austerity" yet and dont give two shítes. For the people still in relative comfort who havent experience too harsh of a cutback on their disposable income its impossible to feel any real anger about it.

Nobody cares what the banks got, they only care what they have and how to protect it like pointing the finger at public expenditure in the hope its people on welfare or in the public sector who suffer and not themselves.

I am pie · 03-11-2011 04:34PM

There was an election, we voted for more of more or less the same. We didn't vote for left wing solutions, we didn't vote to leave the EU or the Eurozone, we didn't vote to default and we didn't vote to any of this other half baked nonsense silver bullet solutions to our problems.

We haven't had the mass protests as we haven't had anywhere near the same (international) corruption or severe austerity in this country as the have had in Greece.

Principally what a minority of people lack in this country is any degree of perspective.

Sacred_git · 03-11-2011 04:35PM

no, we are spineless greedy idiots, sure what can we do boy....lets go to the pub!!

hondasam · 03-11-2011 04:45PM

Do we really want to see riots on the street, people attacking each other, it will solve nothing.
When we had the opportunity to elect a new government we did, our choice who is in there. Next time we should all refuse to vote.

aquaman · 03-11-2011 04:52PM

MungBean wrote: »

People havent experienced "austerity" yet and dont give two shítes. For the people still in relative comfort who havent experience too harsh of a cutback on their disposable income its impossible to feel any real anger about it.

Nobody cares what the banks got, they only care what they have and how to protect it like pointing the finger at public expenditure in the hope its people on welfare or in the public sector who suffer and not themselves.

This^^^

We are by and large a country of me feiners who don't care about society as a whole, only about how our own lives are affected.
No social conscience in this country apart from the unhelpful remains of conservative catholic guilt.

(The author and boardsies excluded of course)

Oh_Noes · 03-11-2011 04:59PM

aquaman wrote: »

We are by and large a country of me feiners who don't care about society as a whole, only about how our own lives are affected.
No social conscience in this country apart from the unhelpful remains of conservative catholic guilt.

Well said.

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-11-2011 05:02PM

I blame floridisation

Cianos · 03-11-2011 05:03PM

Ah sure it'll be grand.

ScumLord · 03-11-2011 05:05PM

TheZohan wrote: »

A bunch of moaners that do nothing and if anyone does try to do something or protest we moan about them too.

Protesters are just moaners that like moaning in public so that everyone can see them moan. They have no structure or backbone and that's why their ignored and are completely ineffective.

Protest marches are just one small part of an overall strategy that Irish people are to lazy to do properly.

ejmaztec · 03-11-2011 05:09PM

Sacred_git wrote: »

no, we are spineless greedy idiots, sure what can we do boy....lets go to the pub!!

Then we can come out of the pub and moan about the robbing bastards behind the bar, and not even have the guts to back in with a nail-gun and pin the feckers to the wall.:(

Alzy · 03-11-2011 05:09PM

MungBean wrote: »

People havent experienced "austerity" yet and dont give two shítes. For the people still in relative comfort who havent experience too harsh of a cutback on their disposable income its impossible to feel any real anger about it.

Nobody cares what the banks got, they only care what they have and how to protect it like pointing the finger at public expenditure in the hope its people on welfare or in the public sector who suffer and not themselves.

couldn't agree more . well said !!

The people who didn't get any benefit from our so called 'celtic tiger' are feeling the cuts more than a lot who enjoyed the golden days. Not that I think any less of those who made hay while the sun shone but it is time to make our voices heard. Banks and the rich keep getting bail outs or hand outs while the ordinary Joe suffers .. eventually that will extended to those who are relatively comfortable now. Just my opinion

03-11-2011 05:17PM

Alzy wrote: »

couldn't agree more . well said !!

The people who didn't get any benefit from our so called 'celtic tiger' are feeling the cuts more than a lot who enjoyed the golden days. Not that I think any less of those who made hay while the sun shone but it is time to make our voices heard. Banks and the rich keep getting bail outs or hand outs while the ordinary Joe suffers .. eventually that will extended to those who are relatively comfortable now. Just my opinion

Who are these people who didn't get any benefit from our "so-called 'celtic tiger'"?

Elmer Blooker · 03-11-2011 05:28PM

smash wrote: »

I think we just don't really give a fcuk... or we're lazy.

mentally lazy!
When the British left in 1922 the Catholic church ruled the country from Maynooth. It's no coincidence that bishops called the people the "flock"
end of...
Oh, I've just noticed post no. 11. I never read page 1 cos I was too ........... lazy.

Alzy · 03-11-2011 05:34PM

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Who are these people who didn't get any benefit from our "so-called 'celtic tiger'"?

I was referring to people who were poor then and still are , people who have been homeless (with little upgrade in funding during the boom and it being cut even more in the recession) etc people like that .

AeoNGriM · 03-11-2011 05:35PM

hondasam wrote: »

Do we really want to see riots on the street, people attacking each other, it will solve nothing.
When we had the opportunity to elect a new government we did, our choice who is in there. Next time we should all refuse to vote.

That's part of the problem. Ok, so we all hate FF. Let's vote in FG! Who will make grand sweeping promises and then do fcukall about it. So what's the alternative? Every single political party in this country only cares about themselves at the end of the day and we bloody well know it, so who do we vote in when we know they are all the same weak, spineless, greedy ****?

Presidential election is the same, 7 candidates no-one wants in office but ya hafta vote for one of them if you do vote.

How is this a free democracy when every choice is the same, and the result is the cnuts at the top merely exchange places for a few years?

Somebody should have run a None of the Above campaign for the General and Presidential elections. That or a killing spree...........yeah, definitely a killing spree.

03-11-2011 05:41PM

AeoNGriM wrote: »

How is this a free democracy when every choice is the same, and the result is the cnuts at the top merely exchange places for a few years?

It is free. People make free choices to elect corrupt scumbags. You are also free to run for election and change things for the better. I, for one, would be in favour of establishing a new political party, since none of the current ones actually represent the interests of the people.

K-9 · 03-11-2011 05:48PM

The opposition doesn't really have a plan, take the Shinners who want us to default and then moan about a few Billion of cuts. If we defaulted we'd have to cut by 20 Billion!

Similar to the Occupy protests. There's a reason they want to keep things simple and vague.

Are Irish people too soft or just gullible?

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