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FTA using magic eyes & Saorview box

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  • #32
    jgbyr
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    Bryan,
    I may have mislead you with my previous post. The boxes I use are not official saorview boxes but are digital tv adapters. The pictures quality is excellent but they do not support MHEG5 so therefore no digital teletext. The particular unit I got are no longer available but here is the link if you want to have a look.
    http://www.adverts.ie/tv/digital-tv-adapter-stb-for-irish-digital-service/523973


  • #33
    bryaner
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    jgbyr wrote: »
    Bryan,
    I may have mislead you with my previous post. The boxes I use are not official saorview boxes but are digital tv adapters. The pictures quality is excellent but they do not support MHEG5 so therefore no digital teletext. The particular unit I got are no longer available but here is the link if you want to have a look.
    http://www.adverts.ie/tv/digital-tv-adapter-stb-for-irish-digital-service/523973

    Thanks jgbyr

    They look like the perfect solution for my situation as I was at a loss how I would keep my magic eye's working in combo with DTT, teletext I can certainly live without.

    Thanks for the help..


  • #34
    jgbyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    bryaner wrote: »
    Thanks jgbyr

    They look like the perfect solution for my situation as I was at a loss how I would keep my magic eye's working in combo with DTT, teletext I can certainly live without.

    Thanks for the help..

    Don't know where you would get one of these now though.


  • #35
    bryaner
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    jgbyr wrote: »
    Don't know where you would get one of these now though.

    Would the likes of this be similar?

    http://www.dipol.ie/tv-sat-tv/dvb-t-receivers-1/dvb-t-receiver-signal-hd-507-mpeg-2-4-pvr-ready.html


  • #36
    jgbyr
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    Looks similar allright. Have a read here : http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056216337

    Should give you more info.


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  • #37
    nigmc04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ✭nigmc04


    Can anyone help with this problem? I am using Sky with £20 ftv card for UK channels. Analogue aerial input to sky box for RTE1+2 +TnG+ TV3 with good pictures. Extra TV in bedroom connected to R2 of Sky STB. Can I connect input of Saorview STB to analogue aerial input of TV or do I require a modulator of some sort?


  • #38
    steveon
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    Do you mean u want to put a Saorview box in the second room or in the first room to watch in the second room as well..??

    If you only want the Saorview box in the second room them put the cable from the rf2 into the input of the saorview box and the loop out back to your tv to give you the sky picture.

    If you want to put the Saorview box in the first room then you will need something like a tri-link modulator to watch and control it in the second room.


  • #39
    nigmc04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ✭nigmc04


    Thanks for prompt reply.
    Main Tv, Sky stb and Uhf aerial (RTE) and sky dish feed all in one position on ground froor. Use one sky remote to change from SKY to RTE. Output from R2 used to feed two tv's in bedrooms- NO magic eyes just power fed amp in attic. After Digital C/over the input from aerial to Sky stb is redundant- but should be OK for use with Saorview stb. So far so good! How can I connect o/put of Saorview stb to sky stb and leave erything as before? Is it possible? thanks again.


  • #40
    zg3409
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    Hi nigmc04. Please don't post the same question in multiple threads. I can help you here but this thread is not really about Sky boxes.

    My understanding of your current setup is

    1 Sky box with no subscription. 2 TVs, neither with an inbuilt Saorview tuner. The current TV aerial is fed into the "aerial input" of the Sky box.

    How is the TV beside the Sky box connected to the Sky box? Is there a SCART lead, HDMI lead or RF lead?

    I assume the 2nd (& 3rd?) TV is connected to RF2 of the Sky box. On the second TV how do you change channels currently on the Sky box, Do you need to go to the main room to change BBC channels etc?

    If so this is a bit of a bodge as it is. Will you EVER have a need to watch one channel in one room, while watching another channel in another room? If so I would recommend a proper Saorview box for EVERY TV, and a Sky eye for the 2nd and third TV. This would allow any TV to watch any of the Irish channels, and one TV to watch the UK ones. Each Saorview box would be connected to the TV using SCART of HDMI leads.

    This would require least rewiring and allow reasonable choices.

    You could use one Saorview box, and a triax tri-link, but the cost of the tri-link basically is the same as another Saorview box. It would be better value to just buy two boxes.


  • #41
    The Cush
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    nigmc04 wrote: »
    After Digital C/over the input from aerial to Sky stb is redundant- but should be OK for use with Saorview stb. So far so good! How can I connect o/put of Saorview stb to sky stb and leave erything as before? Is it possible?

    It won't really be possible to leave everything as before as no Saorview STB has a modulator onboard to convert the decoded Saorview signal into an RF frequency that can be tuned by an analogue TV.

    The aerial out on a Saorview receiver is a loop-through and only carries the undecoded Saorview signal and for the moment the terrestrial analogue signal. The decoded Saorview signal/channels are only output thru the scart and HDMI.

    You could, as Stevon said above, attach a modulator such as the Triax Trilink, to convert the output from the scart to an RF frequency which could then be combined with the with the selected Sky channel from RF2 to the various TV points. The downside of this is only the selected channel on the Saorview box is fed to each TV point but the channel can be changed via the Trilink.

    A Saorview TV or STB at each bedroom TV point would restore flexibility after analogue switchoff by leaving the aerial attched to the Sky receiver and looping the undecoded Saorview signal together with the selected Sky channel thru RF2.

    If you use a Saorview TV in the bedrooms it'll tune the Saorview channels and the selected Sky channel. If you use a Saorview STB at each TV point the selected Sky channel can be looped thru to the TV's co-ax input but the Saorview channels must be fed to the TV via scart or HDMI as no Saorview STB has a modulator onboard to feed the Saorview channels with the selected Sky channel to the TV's co-ax input.


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  • #42
    nigmc04
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    Dear The Cush,
    Thanks for your civil and non techy and prompt reply. Since I live alone in the house I do not require Magic Eyes Or outer switching apps. I set the main Tv to Sky channel, retire to bedroom, and there can watch either RTE1+2+TnG+TV3 or the selected Sky channel on main TV down stairs using TV's remote control. In the winter time I move to smaller bedroom over the all-night burner in living room and do the same as in larger room.( Programs are still rubbish- but it passes the time till I fall asleep)
    So even though my setup is, what was the expression , doopy, its my doopy system and it suits my situation.
    Now that I know that my proposed use of Saorview box will not work since I need a modulator- I noticed somewhere in Boards.ie - a suggestion to use an old VCR as modulator but cant now find the location of the item! What would you think of this?


  • #43
    zg3409
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    doopy

    Didn't mean to insult.
    I noticed somewhere in Boards.ie - a suggestion to use an old VCR as modulator but cant now find the location of the item! What would you think of this?

    Yes you can use one Saorview box and a VCR. This will allow all channels in all rooms. Feed the Saorview box from the aerial in. Feed the aerial out of the Saorview box into the RF in of the VCR. Feed the RF out of the VCR into the RF in of the Sky box and then on to the other TV's as before.

    So its:

    Aerial --- Saorview --- VCR ----Sky

    You then need to connect a Scart from the Saorview box into the VCR (if there are two SCART conenctors on VCR try both)

    Set the VCR to channel AV1 or AV2

    You then need to tune every TV in the house. You should find two channels. One channel will be the Sky's the other channel will be Saorview.

    It's quite complicated to setup but it will work.

    Ask here if having trouble. It might be helpful to play a tape in the VCR while tuning the TV's to be sure you are getting the right signal.


  • #44
    nigmc04
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    Hi' zg3409,
    I'm in error too!Sorry. I think after reaching AOP I have become very thin skinned, in fact my grand daughter says that I overdose on the ugly pills and the nasty medicine. But I cant give off to her she will be doing the job after she has printed your instructions! (That means I'm the goffer!)
    I'm not too clear about your instructions after the point
    "tune all tv's in house
    "You will find two channels SKY and Saorview


    What remote controls will be used at each location ?


  • #45
    zg3409
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    nigmc04 wrote: »
    I'm not too clear about your instructions after the point
    "tune all tv's in house
    "You will find two channels SKY and Saorview

    What remote controls will be used at each location ?

    With you existing system you set the Sky channel using the Sky remote in the main room. To watch the RTEs you currently change channel on the TV itself.


    After the change over you set the channel in the main room on either the Sky box or the Saorview box.

    Then retreat to the bedroom. In the bedroom, using the remote for the bedroom TV

    Channel 1 will be the Sky channel (whichever you set earlier)
    Channel 2 will be the Saorview channel (whichever you set earlier)
    You will also have the old RTE's until end of October.

    The actual channel numbers will depend on how you tuned the TV. You may need to sort them how you wish.

    In order to change channels in the bedroom you need to walk to main room, unless you happen to want to switch from Sat to Saorview and the box happens to already be on the right channel.


  • #46
    The Cush
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    nigmc04 wrote: »
    Now that I know that my proposed use of Saorview box will not work since I need a modulator- I noticed somewhere in Boards.ie - a suggestion to use an old VCR as modulator but cant now find the location of the item! What would you think of this?

    Further to zg3409's reply, the VCR in this setup acts a modulator just like the Triax Trilink mentioned above but without the option of changing channels on the Saorview receiver remotely. See the first diagram on the attached page.

    Your current setup will work until the early hours of Oct 24th so lots of time to get sorted.


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