Is Sean Gallagher telling lies

CDfm · 25-10-2011 10:49PM

flatbackfour wrote: »

Here here,

He will not be elected. He wont even be close.

But look at who FG and Labour needed help from.

There there lads,don't thank me all at once but consider what you are voting for in the referendum.

Liam Byrne · 25-10-2011 10:50PM

CDfm wrote: »

flatbackfour wrote: »

Here here,

He will not be elected. He wont even be close.

But look at who FG and Labour needed help from.

There there lads,don't thank me all at once but consider what you are voting for in the referendum.

I'm voting against the referendum, so your attempt at muddying the water based on your bias is laughable.

flatbackfour · 25-10-2011 10:52PM

spider guardian wrote: »

A lot of people voted for 'Cowen and his clowns'. A lot of people raised money for 'Cowen and his clowns'. A lot of people canvassed for 'Cowen and his clowns' down throughout the years. You are making out that all those people are guilty by association. .

But not a lot of these decent fianna fail voters solicited shady business men for 5 grand a head to get access to the taoiseach.

spider guardian wrote: »

You say he did this to gain influence, this is hardly surprising behaviour from someone with ambitions to be president, that's the way the game works. It's not a bad thing to play it if it can put you in a position where you can do good for your country.

And that there is a reason why this country is where it it. Tolerance for "the way the game works" tolerance for cute hoorism.

The presidential office is beyond "game playing".

Go on; keep celebrating the Jackie healy rae, Micheal lowery, galway tent, back slapping wink and nod cute hoorism. Its the only way to get things done.

flatbackfour · 25-10-2011 10:53PM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Er - OK - colour me confused now.

"No you didn't" miss it or "Yes you did" ?

No I missed it. But I got it now.

flatbackfour · 25-10-2011 10:55PM

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

Gallagher will poll behind both Micheal D and McGuinness to finish third imo. He may even finish behind Norris such is the tool he made of himself these last 24hrs.

I would not underestimate the stupidity of the Irish people.

LostinKildare · 25-10-2011 10:56PM

FYI Glenna Lynch is to appear on Vincent Browne tonight.

She is the woman from last night's Frontline audience who questioned Gallagher on his business dealings in the debate's other line of questioning that had inept Gallagher on the back foot.

She also tore him apart this morning on Pat Kenny's radio show when she rang in after hearing him accuse her of working for another campaign to bring him down. If you didn't hear that interview, the podcast is well worth a listen:

pod-v-25101132m48stodaywithpatkenny-pid0-1968120.mp3

EDIT: VB on in 6 minutes -- Sorry for the short notice!

michael999999 · 25-10-2011 10:57PM

Gallagher was a bagman for Fianna "golden circle rape the country" Fail.

Thats all.

ironingbored · 25-10-2011 10:59PM

Alibaba wrote: »

Don't know who's right or wrong (Sean Gallagher or Mr. Morgan) but can't help thinking who in the f##k would want a photograph of themselves and Brian Cowen on their wall and pay E5,000 for it...
Crazy.......

I think I've had a change of heart. Any man who can sell a photo of Brian Cowen for €5K might be just who we need!

CDfm · 25-10-2011 11:01PM

CDfm wrote: »

I dont think Dana was ever on my list of hopefuls - musical differences.:p

I have sympathy for Norris who should have been well aware of what happened Adi Roach in 1997.

I am disappointed he has not commented on the referenda.

There is a precedent for a presidential candidate actively campaigning against a referendum with the FG candidate Sean McEoin in 1959 asking voters in Cork City not to vote for him if it meant voting no on the proposal by FF to get rid of the PR electoral system.

So it is a pity he will not make a stand.

Liam Byrne wrote: »

I'm voting against the referendum, so your attempt at muddying the water based on your bias is laughable.

I made the point previously and elsewhere and think it is worth reiterating that the election and referenda are not synonymous.

spider guardian · 25-10-2011 11:04PM

flatbackfour wrote: »

But not a lot of these decent fianna fail voters solicited shady business men for 5 grand a head to get access to the taoiseach.

If this business man is so 'shady' then why should anyone believe what he says? Has it not occurred to you that this could all just be a Sinn Fein-hatchet job on Gallagher? Gallagher says he did not directly solicit him. Of course it looks bad for him but what Gallagher says is plausible.

flatbackfour wrote: »

And that there is a reason why this country is where it it. Tolerance for "the way the game works" tolerance for cute hoorism.

The presidential office is beyond "game playing".

In an ideal world it would be but we don't live in an ideal world. Why then do we not hear you criticise Sinn Fein for their 'game playing'?

flatbackfour wrote: »

Go on; keep celebrating the Jackie healy rae, Micheal lowery, galway tent, back slapping wink and nod cute hoorism. Its the only way to get things done.

Yes, let us celebrate Sinn Fein hatchet jobs instead.

michael999999 · 25-10-2011 11:07PM

spider guardian wrote: »

If this business man is so 'shady' then why should anyone believe what he says? Has it not occurred to you that this could all just be a Sinn Fein-hatchet job on Gallagher? Gallagher says he did not directly solicit him. Of course it looks bad for him but what Gallagher says is plausible.

In an ideal world it would be but we don't live in an ideal world. Why then do we not hear you criticise Sinn Fein for their 'game playing'?

Yes, let us celebrate Sinn Fein hatchet jobs instead.

Hi bertie, you must have plenty time on your hands since news of the world went up the swanny!

spider guardian · 25-10-2011 11:09PM

michael999999 wrote: »

Hi bertie, you must have plenty time on your hands since news of the world went up the swanny!

shhhhh, i'm still in the cupboard

flatbackfour · 25-10-2011 11:09PM

spider guardian wrote: »

Has it not occurred to you that this could all just be a Sinn Fein-hatchet job on Gallagher? Gallagher says he did not directly solicit him. Of course it looks bad for him but what Gallagher says is plausible..

He solicited 5 grand from a shady buisness man for a utterly currupt fianna fianna fail party, a fianna fail that was at the end of a process of destroying this country. He is responsible for this. No ONe else.

No one amushed him. Gallagher did this.

Bannasidhe · 25-10-2011 11:11PM

spider guardian wrote: »

shhhhh, i'm still in the cupboard

Could you loan me a cup of sugar? - this austerity lark is really kicking in now.

Liam Byrne · 25-10-2011 11:13PM

flatbackfour wrote: »

spider guardian wrote: »

Has it not occurred to you that this could all just be a Sinn Fein-hatchet job on Gallagher? Gallagher says he did not directly solicit him. Of course it looks bad for him but what Gallagher says is plausible..

He solicited 5 grand from a shady buisness man for a utterly currupt fianna fianna fail party, a fianna fail that was at the end of a process of destroying this country. He is responsible for this. No ONe else.

No one amushed him. Gallagher did this.

Agreed. But this is the "shady business man" that McGun knows (to the extent where he has McGun's phone number) and believes.

Anything wrong with that, in your opinion?

Nolls14 · 25-10-2011 11:14PM

In a democratic election, the people get the political figures they deserve. They vote for them. It's stupefying that this man - a grade A example of the kind of slick, oily grifters that have run this country into the ground in the last decade- was even topping the poll, even before these revelations.

A high percentage of the citizens of this country are really stupid. Really ****ing stupid.

flatbackfour · 25-10-2011 11:15PM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Agreed. But this is the "shady business man" that McGun knows (to the extent where he has McGun's phone number) and believes.

Anything wrong with that, in your opinion?

Dont understand your point.

Wolfe Tone · 25-10-2011 11:17PM

Ah Liam, he has totally exposed Gallagher and his FF involvement, I thought you would be pleased!

Liam Byrne · 25-10-2011 11:18PM

flatbackfour wrote: »

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Agreed. But this is the "shady business man" that McGun knows (to the extent where he has McGun's phone number) and believes.

Anything wrong with that, in your opinion?

Dont understand your point.

Seriously ? You criticise SG (correctly) and yet never wonder how this "shady businessman" has McG's phone number ?

MadsL · 25-10-2011 11:19PM

EamonM wrote: »

Sean Never called to any1s house to collect anything,

Errr, isn't that what he said happened

Oh what a tangled web....

spider guardian · 25-10-2011 11:20PM

flatbackfour wrote: »

He solicited 5 grand from a shady buisness man for a utterly currupt fianna fianna fail party, a fianna fail that was at the end of a process of destroying this country. He is responsible for this. No ONe else.

No one amushed him. Gallagher did this.

You seem very certain of this. You must have information I'm not privy to.

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Could you loan me a cup of sugar? - this austerity lark is really kicking in now.

Sheeeeee-it, I start walking down the street with a kilo of sugar, by the time I get home I got none left!

flatbackfour · 25-10-2011 11:22PM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Seriously ? You criticise SG (correctly) and yet never wonder how this "shady businessman" has McG's phone number ?

Dont get me wrong mcguiness is shady (understatement). Buts hes not going to be elected or is not topping the polls

flatbackfour · 25-10-2011 11:25PM

spider guardian wrote: »

You seem very certain of this. You must have information I'm not privy to.

He has admited that he called the guy. He admitted he solicited money from a shady business man for Fianna Fail.

I mean lets be honest, he did not fund raise for Fianna Fail out of the goodness of his heart.

Do you remember what Fianna Fail and its cronies did to this country.

jimmycrackcorm · 25-10-2011 11:33PM

charlemont wrote: »

Yes but Sinn Féin don't pretend to be whiter than white.

You are right about that!

spider guardian · 25-10-2011 11:33PM

flatbackfour wrote: »

He has admited that he called the guy. He admitted he solicited money from a shady business man for Fianna Fail.

He admitted no such thing.

RTE Website wrote:

Mr Gallagher insisted he had never visited Mr Morgan's home after the event nor was he given a cheque.
"I did not receive a cheque from Mr Morgan."

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1025/president.html

flatbackfour wrote: »

I mean lets be honest, he did not fund raise for Fianna Fail out of the goodness of his heart.

Who ever fund-raised for a political party out of the goodness of their heart?

flatbackfour wrote: »

Do you remember what Fianna Fail and its cronies did to this country.

Of course. I also remember they were voted in.

jimmycrackcorm · 25-10-2011 11:36PM

flatbackfour wrote: »

He has admited that he called the guy. He admitted he solicited money from a shady business man for Fianna Fail.

I mean lets be honest, he did not fund raise for Fianna Fail out of the goodness of his heart.

Do you remember what Fianna Fail and its cronies did to this country.

Do you remember that the Irish electorate voted in Fianna Fail in three elections? But the electorate aren't to blame of course because we are simple sheep.

farmersboy · 25-10-2011 11:37PM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Seriously ? You criticise SG (correctly) and yet never wonder how this "shady businessman" has McG's phone number ?

maybe he got it in the telephone book....

flatbackfour · 25-10-2011 11:41PM

spider guardian wrote: »

He admitted no such thing..

He admitted he rang the guy up. He asked him to go to a fianna fail fund raiser.

He suggested he make a "contribution"

spider guardian wrote: »

Who ever fund-raised for a political party out of the goodness of their heart?

No not for the goodness of their hearts, to gain influence with Fianna fail minsters, influence in the industry Gallagher is involved in. Now what industry would that be? Construction!!!!!!!!!

No your right Gallagher has a vision for the future. Just make sure we all forget the past.

raymon · 25-10-2011 11:45PM

CDfm wrote: »

But look at who FG and Labour needed help from.

There there lads,don't thank me all at once but consider what you are voting for in the referendum.

CdFm , Sean Gallaghers Facebook page is being over run by anti Sean Gallagher comments

Hint hint ........ you may want to go over there and muddy the waters there instead

People on this thread are wise to your changing the subject

flatbackfour · 25-10-2011 11:49PM

spider guardian wrote: »

Of course. I also remember they were voted in.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

Is Sean Gallagher telling lies

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