Movie dilemmas

RichieC · 25-10-2011 03:27PM

Neo and all are supposedly the goodies in the Matrix but they want us all to live on a nightmare ****hole occupied by awful robots... we're good, thanks, lads.

The guy · 25-10-2011 03:28PM

Why didn't the eagles just carry Frodo and the ring to Mordor. :pac:

4leto · 25-10-2011 03:30PM

Not a dilemma, just an observation, I am a scifi head although these films are meant to be set in the future, but did you ever notice, nothing dates quicker then science fiction.

So old Sci Fi which I thought was great at the time it was new rapidly looks like pants as time goes by.

The King of Moo · 25-10-2011 03:52PM

The guy wrote: »

Why didn't the eagles just carry Frodo and the ring to Mordor. :pac:

Pedantic Pete here.

I thought that myself and looked it up online, and discovered that apparently someone asked J.R.R Tolkein about this back in the day, and he said that for most of the events of the books Mordor was too well guarded and the Nazgul or one of Sauron's many beasties would have killed the eagles as soon as they got near.

At the end

when Sauron's been killed and the place is in disarray and all the monsters were dying and fleeing, the eagles were able to get in safely.

Though that does sound like a solution created after the books were published and someone pointed out the problem to him.

A little like the Citizen Kane one actually.

The whole plot revolves around the journalist trying to figure out what "Rosebud" means.

But if you watch the start of the film, when Kane says it, there doesn't seem to be anyone in the room with him, so how does everyone know that "Rosebud" was his last word?

The officialish explanation is that his butler was there and we just weren't shown him (though that still doesn't explain why he apparently didn't react when Kane died and dropped the snowglobe).

Personally I don't buy that, as we can see a good chunk of the room, but the film's so fantastic that I don't mind the error.

Apparently a journalist pointed this plot hole out to Orson Welles shortly after the release of the film. Welles paused for a moment, then said something like "Don't ever mention that to anyone!"

orourkeda · 25-10-2011 04:03PM

Can anyone explain what happened for the entire duration of inception?

Oranage2 · 25-10-2011 04:05PM

orourkeda wrote: »

Can anyone explain what happened for the entire duration of inception?

This

http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/inceptionruined.jpg

tadcan · 25-10-2011 04:05PM

The guy wrote: »

Why didn't the eagles just carry Frodo and the ring to Mordor. :pac:

Because they are stuck in the hotel California.

4leto · 25-10-2011 04:06PM

orourkeda wrote: »

Can anyone explain what happened for the entire duration of inception?

Never repeat never fall asleep watching inception.

A team enters someone's dream to steal industrial or any secrets.

But what I couldn't understand is Leo did it to get back to America, why didn't he just go back to America as he did in the end.

PS: I absolutely loved that film, but still a bit baffled by it.

tadcan · 25-10-2011 04:10PM

4leto wrote: »

But what I couldn't understand is Leo did it to get back to America, why didn't he just go back to America as he did in the end.

He was wanted on suspicion for murdering his wife. He could have had the kids flown out to live with him.

Quazzie · 25-10-2011 04:10PM

4leto wrote: »

Never repeat never fall asleep watching inception.

A team enters someone's dream to steal industrial or any secrets.

But what I couldn't understand is Leo did it to get back to America, why didn't he just go back to America as he did in the end.

PS: I absolutely loved that film, but still a bit baffled by it.

Because he needed to do the job so that he could get through customs. By doing the job he got a clean sheet in the states and was allowed back in.

That is of course if the end was real and not just a dream

orourkeda · 25-10-2011 04:11PM

4leto wrote: »

Never repeat never fall asleep watching inception.

A team enters someone's dream to steal industrial or any secrets.

But what I couldn't understand is Leo did it to get back to America, why didn't he just go back to America as he did in the end.

PS: I absolutely loved that film, but still a bit baffled by it.

How is it possible to love a film yet not fully understand it?

The King of Moo · 25-10-2011 04:11PM

4leto wrote: »

Never repeat never fall asleep watching inception.

A team enters someone's dream to steal industrial or any secrets.

But what I couldn't understand is Leo did it to get back to America, why didn't he just go back to America as he did in the end.

PS: I absolutely loved that film, but still a bit baffled by it.

I think he would've been arrested at immigration because he was wanted there.

But because he did the job, Saito used his contacts to allow him to pass through safely, and possibly get the police off his back permanently.

Probably why Michael Caine couldn't fly the kids to France. Knowing that Leo had a French wife, the cops would probably have suspected the kids were being taken to him if they wanted to get on a flight to France, so they'd either stop them or follow the kids to get to him, if they could set up an extradition deal with the French.

orourkeda · 25-10-2011 04:14PM

How many women got f*cked in the ass in ass collectors?

Boom_Bap · 25-10-2011 04:18PM

orourkeda wrote: »

Can anyone explain what happened for the entire duration of inception?

Can anyone explain what happened for the entire duration of inception?

Spunge · 25-10-2011 04:28PM

At the end of planet of the apes (remake).
The statue of abe lincoln is actually an ape (ape lincoln).
If abe lincoln was famous for freeing the slaves (black slaves, white slavers).
And if everyone was an ape in this world.

What was ape lincoln famous for ?

The King of Moo · 25-10-2011 04:33PM

Spunge wrote: »

At the end of planet of the apes (remake).
The statue of abe lincoln is actually an ape (ape lincoln).
If abe lincoln was famous for freeing the slaves (black slaves, white slavers).
And if everyone was an ape in this world.

What was ape lincoln famous for ?

He did the Cadbury's ad where he played the drums.

RichieC · 25-10-2011 04:34PM

Spunge wrote: »

At the end of planet of the apes (remake).
The statue of abe lincoln is actually an ape (ape lincoln).
If abe lincoln was famous for freeing the slaves (black slaves, white slavers).
And if everyone was an ape in this world.

What was ape lincoln famous for ?

He was also famous for being the PotUS..

ash23 · 25-10-2011 04:37PM

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Jen Pigs Fly · 25-10-2011 04:39PM

Quazzie wrote: »

Look at a Serbian Film and the human centipede won't have any effect on you anymore.

I *attempted* it but did not get far, I know what was going to happen which just psyched myself out. That Salo movie as well

Never watched it, never will but I've heard alllll about it.

Human centipede 2 .... now that, that's a .... well ... words are beyond me.

Antomus Prime · 25-10-2011 04:41PM

xxxJennyxxx wrote: »

Human centipede 2 .... now that, that's a .... well ... words are beyond me.

There's a human centipede 2???

Jen Pigs Fly · 25-10-2011 04:41PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

That's what I hate about Paranormal Activity. Early on, the idiot boyfriend says they should just go, but the girlfriend says there's no point as the demon will just follow them.
But surely your instinct would override logic and you'd just want to get out of the house.
And wouldn't it be better to be haunted in a nice hotel or surrounded by lots of family and friends?

The demon possessed her and made her say that to him, remember number 1 before the climax of the movie, she was possessed they were about to leave.

Jen Pigs Fly · 25-10-2011 04:42PM

Antomus Prime wrote: »

There's a human centipede 2???

Yes.
Trust me, It's awful, truely awful. Look it up if you dare, IMDB has a great page for it, parents guide is your friend if you want details

Jen Pigs Fly · 25-10-2011 04:46PM

Spunge wrote: »

At the end of planet of the apes (remake).
The statue of abe lincoln is actually an ape (ape lincoln).
If abe lincoln was famous for freeing the slaves (black slaves, white slavers).
And if everyone was an ape in this world.

What was ape lincoln famous for ?

Freeing the monkies?

Antomus Prime · 25-10-2011 04:52PM

xxxJennyxxx wrote: »

Yes.
Trust me, It's awful, truely awful. Look it up if you dare, IMDB has a great page for it, parents guide is your friend if you want details

I doubt I'll bother, didnt even watch the first one after seeing the trailer! It just looked so god don aweful!! But i've heard its a bit of a laugh though.

Jen Pigs Fly · 25-10-2011 04:53PM

Antomus Prime wrote: »

I doubt I'll bother, didnt even watch the first one after seeing the trailer! It just looked so god don aweful!! But i've heard its a bit of a laugh though.

First time I watched it I was horrified, second time I laughed.
third time was because there was absolutly nothing else on :rolleyes: It's hilarious to be honest, the limited script is so unbelievably amateur and stupid. Whenever it's on, my facebook get spammed with many of the one liners :pac:

Dotrel · 25-10-2011 04:59PM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Can anyone explain what happened for the entire duration of inception?

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spankmaster2000 · 25-10-2011 05:00PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Raiders of the Lost Ark:
Indy apparently survives being submerged and holding onto the top of a submarine for a trip across the Mediterranean!

Who says that the submarine actually ever went underwater?

Also; we don't know where exactly that island was, so maybe it was just a 2 hour journey?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082971/faq#.2.1.4

The King of Moo · 25-10-2011 05:11PM

spankmaster2000 wrote: »

Who says that the submarine actually ever went underwater?

Also; we don't know where exactly that island was, so maybe it was just a 2 hour journey?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082971/faq#.2.1.4

I thought that too, but recently I read this article, which shows that the onscreen map indicates it was about a 50-hour trip!

Though in fairness, as it's Indiana Jones, I'm willing to suspend disbelief enough to accept that he could survive such a trip on top of a u-boat without dying of exposure!

4leto · 25-10-2011 05:31PM

orourkeda wrote: »

How is it possible to love a film yet not fully understand it?

So many reasons, it was a visual feast, the cast and the acting was class, the action sequences were spectacular and the score was easily in my top 10 scores in films. I remember being exhausted after watching it, but I still had a lot of questions about it.

4leto · 25-10-2011 07:39PM

Not a film, some wont even remember it, but even as a kid I sussed that if Steve Austen the 6 Million Dollar Man was to lift a car with his left bionic arm his human spine would explode.

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