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Bus Lanes - No time shown?

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  • #32
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,039 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    ants09 wrote: »
    a contra flow bus lane you aint allowed to use at all.

    a ordinary bus lane meant to have The white plate shows when the section of road is meant only for the buses shown. Normally bus lanes operate from 7am to 7pm or during peak hours. Outside these times, all traffic may use them. You should check the information plate to confirm the time limits that apply.

    so if it doesnt have a white plate showing the signs it aint a prober bus lane and can be used in my opinion

    and that quote is taken from the rsa rules of the road on bus lanes :)

    http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-for-driving/traffic-signs-road-markings/buses.html

    1. You are quoting a book (rules of the road) which not always is correct, and actually there are indeed some mistakes in it.

    2. You are interpreting it your way. Assumption that lack of white plate with hours means it's not a proper bus lane, is ridiculous. By saying "normally" they mean the most common situations - not all of them. I agree that it's not worded clearly in rotr, but hence point 1.

    3. You have enough time to argue with us here, but you didn't bother checking my earlier post in this thread, where everything is explained. I quoted there part of legislation, explaining that bus lane might have a white plate with hours, but doesn't have to.


  • #33
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks for responces confirming it everyone. :)

    But could one not argue that, when driving you must know and obey the ROTR?

    I don't remember having to learn any legislation when taking the driving test, but I had to know the rules of the road.

    One more small question, which it may be a better idea of me starting a new thread, but what about bus lanes on private roads (Blanchardstown Shopping Centre)? Are bus lanes on private road legally bus lanes?

    Cheers ;)


  • #34
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,039 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Deleted User wrote: »

    But could one not argue that, when driving you must know and obey the ROTR?

    I don't remember having to learn any legislation when taking the driving test, but I had to know the rules of the road.

    Sorry, but I will argue.
    While driving you must know and obey the Law, which are mostly all Road traffic Acts and Regulations.

    ROTR is just a book, which purpose is to explain in easy words, all rules form the Law + some useful tips about driving.
    Unfortunately ROTR contains mistakes, and sometimes is not precise.
    When in doubt, it's always wise to check in the Law, as that's what apply, and that's what the judge going to go by in the case something goes wrong and case goes to court.
    I'd say even the best solicitor wouldn't be able to convince judge, that what's written in ROTR is more important than what's written in legislation.


  • #35
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CiniO wrote: »
    Sorry, but I will argue.
    While driving you must know and obey the Law, which are mostly all Road traffic Acts and Regulations.

    ROTR is just a book, which purpose is to explain in easy words, all rules form the Law + some useful tips about driving.
    Unfortunately ROTR contains mistakes, and sometimes is not precise.
    When in doubt, it's always wise to check in the Law, as that's what apply, and that's what the judge going to go by in the case something goes wrong and case goes to court.
    I'd say even the best solicitor wouldn't be able to convince judge, that what's written in ROTR is more important than what's written in legislation.
    Fair enough. Looks like I wont be drinving in bus lanes with no times posted so!

    Thanks CiniO ;)


  • #36
    J K
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 468 ✭✭J K


    Deleted User wrote: »
    But could one not argue that, when driving you must know and obey the ROTR?

    If you're looking something to argue this bus lane point on, the lane in question is on private roads. They weren't built by the council but by she shopping centre. You'll note car parks on either side of the road - they're essentially internal lanes of one big shopping car park. Also ask the judge to produce his written oath of taking office :pac:


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