san fran homeless crack heads!!!

Simon Adebisi · 19-10-2011 11:43PM

krudler wrote: »

just stay the hell out of the Tenderloin area

Scary place at night. Lovely city by day though. The burrito's in the mission are unreal and Amoeba music in Haight Ashbury is without a doubt the best music shop in the world.

Saila · 19-10-2011 11:44PM

which is worse, being called a crack head, or an arsehole or are they the same?

rebel10 · 19-10-2011 11:44PM

Simon Adebisi wrote: »

Scary place at night. Lovely city by day though. The burrito's in the mission are unreal and Amoeba music in Haight Ashbury is without a doubt the best music shop in the world.

+1 on Amoeba:)

derra · 19-10-2011 11:54PM

krudler wrote: »

just stay the hell out of the Tenderloin area

This documentary/film would confirm that suggestion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Tar_Heroin_%28film%29

stone roses · 20-10-2011 01:16AM

df1985 wrote: »

California in general has a lot of homeless people, the weather means they never have to worry about freezing to death in the winter, hence a lot of homeless people end up there.

Ive been to San Fran, yes there is a lot but the vast majority are harmless. it looks bad for tourists etc but i never felt unsafe even when there were loads of them.

a lot of homeless dont have to worry about freezing in san fran? what about starving to death, rape, being attacked with guns and knifes , drug overdose, you dont just end up on the street over night either! hate to sound mean but i never done crack or hard time so lets not get to nice on there ass, they are on the street for a reason and its not from working hard getting up at 6 in the morning and paying the bills!! i loved san fran but i never seen anything like the homeless, it was sad to watch and it makes me wonder where is all the money to help these people, to fire a rocket from an f-14 jet costs one million $$$$ so wtf??

mikemac · 20-10-2011 01:21AM

Well some are veterans and they are not getting the help they need
It's nothing new, people coming back from wars have had issues readjusting or need help with their mental health since wars began

It doesn't explain everyone in San Fran but it does for some.

Voodoomelon · 20-10-2011 01:24AM

San Fran has a huge amount of homeless on the streets, digging into every single rubbish bin collecting bottles and cans. Poor chaps.

stone roses · 20-10-2011 01:50AM

mikemac wrote: »

Well some are veterans and they are not getting the help they need
It's nothing new, people coming back from wars have had issues readjusting or need help with their mental health since wars began

It doesn't explain everyone in San Fran but it does for some.

yes id say theres a lot of veterans on the street in san fran, these guys were easy to spot mainly old timers or weary veterans from nam poor guys!! but it was the younger ones the crack heads and scum who would do anything form money thats what i noticed the most!! its really sad and i dont know why they are on the street but i know one thing! they will blame the world but never them selfs!!

JONJO THE MISER · 20-10-2011 02:55AM

opinion guy wrote: »

OP can I recommend Detroit as your next holiday destination !! You would love it

Aww Detroit brings back so many.........

maxfresh · 20-10-2011 03:06AM

Maybe they should dump all the crackheads out to alcatraz, problem solved ,take the bad look off the place

mawk · 20-10-2011 08:40AM

I worked in sf for a while, right in the middle of the city. Homelessness and drug addiction are very visual problems. Its amazing to walk along market street.. At 4th its giant apple stores and old navy, by 5th its theatres and galleries and by 6th and 7th its porn cinemas, prostitutes and pawn shops. Its amazing the change in 60 seconds of walking. Pretty jarring

smurgen · 20-10-2011 08:58AM

go to Santa Barbara, coolest homeless people and crack heads in the world! They even had I pods, where they charged them all the time I dunno!

Balmed Out · 20-10-2011 09:20AM

Apparently there are lots of charities who fly them to California away from the colder northern cities and San fran seems to be the most popular pace for them there. Ive never seen so many people taking crack in my life. My mate ran a hostel in a very dodgy area, you would constantly see people shooting up. The poor bastards are really competitive at the begging each with some sort of street performance act and the whole downtown area has a stench of stale urine.
The only place i have seen with more homeless or at least a higher percentage of beggers would be siam near ankor wat in cambodia.

chopperbyrne · 20-10-2011 09:38AM

stone roses wrote: »

hi all

i only got back from san francisco great city, good vibes and a super holiday but the homeless and crack heads where all over the place, i like most irish have traveled the world and lived in austrailia but never seen so many scumbags and crack heads in one spot!!

You've never been outside Tara Station or on the boardwalk on Eden Quay so.

Cuddlesworth · 20-10-2011 09:44AM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

You've never been outside Tara Station or on the boardwalk on Eden Quay so.

They aren't homeless. They are just adult versions of teenagers hanging out on street corners, drinking and doing drugs. They go back to their council flats in the evenings.

emeraldstar · 20-10-2011 10:10AM

I was in San Fran two weeks ago and also noticed the sheer number of homeless people. And weirdos. Lots and lots of weirdos. Several who would just randomly start following me...

I was a little glad to hop on the plane back over to New York

yupyup7up · 20-10-2011 10:33AM

FearDark wrote: »

Ya should see Limerick.

somebody has never been to Dublin.

GO_Bear · 20-10-2011 10:43AM

stone roses wrote: »

hi all

i only got back from san francisco great city, good vibes and a super holiday but the homeless and crack heads where all over the place, i like most irish have traveled the world and lived in austrailia but never seen so many scumbags and crack heads in one spot!!

We stayed in an Asian Hostel in the Tenderloin district ( a particularly notorious area ) Seen some strange things, like the infamous basement of our hostel ... we never ventured down but ... we seen on occasion complete crack head homeless people walk into the hostel and get the lift down too the bottom floor never to emerge again !

Also one homeless fella who I made the mistake of giving change to , two days in a row. We called him Zimmer man, and his zimmer frame gave of a distinctive scratching noise as it made its way along the street ... I could of sworn I heard it in our room one night ! ( after a few too many beers ! ) still gives me nightmares, he used to wait outside the hostel for us then and follow us expecting more money for a week after that !

Staying there almost made me give up smoking as the frustration of stepping outside for a ciggi would result in being accosted by AT LEAST 5 different people asking for channnnnge/smokes/my cloths.

Don't get me wrong I give money too some homeless people when they meet the criteria but that was all a bit overwhelming

Leftist · 20-10-2011 10:44AM

rebel10 wrote: »

Actually, I stayed in San Fran as a student a while back. I was told the reason there are so many is because of the mild climate in the city (never gets too warm because of the fog and also never gets too cold), and apparently during the Olympic games in Atlanta, the homeless there were bused out of the city, many to San Fran. One other theory, many of the homeless would be of the generation that enjoyed the summer of love there, and possibly never really got help with their addictions.

So they're all about 70 years old? 70 year old crack heads.

Or maybe, just maybe, its the same issue that has plagued many cities in California.

Poverty!

GO_Bear · 20-10-2011 10:47AM

Leftist wrote: »

Or maybe, just maybe, its the same issue that has plagued many cities in California.

Poverty!

As far as I know they all flock to California cause its climate is "mild" all year round as opposed to the East coasts cold snaps in winter and heat waves in summer.

Also, and don't quote me on this, but I heard that crack addiction is seen as an illness there rather then a fault of character so they get extra social welfare ? ( can anyone confirm/refute ? )

gerbear1 · 20-10-2011 12:59PM

There's tons of homeless there. I was there on a J1, I read in a paper there that it has the most homeless people out of any city in the US.

smash · 20-10-2011 01:02PM

stone roses wrote: »

i only got back from san francisco great city, good vibes and a super holiday but the homeless and crack heads where all over the place

I know it has a massive gay population but lets not get derogatory here..

rossie1977 · 20-10-2011 01:33PM

emeraldstar wrote: »

I was in San Fran two weeks ago and also noticed the sheer number of homeless people. And weirdos. Lots and lots of weirdos. Several who would just randomly start following me...

I was a little glad to hop on the plane back over to New York

san francisco is a beautiful city but if you wander into the tenderloin expect to see weirdos its like walking around the south bronx expect to get hassled or maybe worse or around the citrus bowl in orlando expect to see gangs of chaps smoking crack on every corner, or walking between the vegas strip and downtown expect to get murdered.......

tourists :pac:

woodsy2 · 20-10-2011 01:46PM

I was in SF last summer as well with a few friends, first thing we all said after arriving was about the incredible amount of homeless people. However, most of the homeless people I actually talked to were incredibly polite and modest (although they looked fairly rough around the edges), even when they asked for change or something they were never aggresive or demanding about it. Where we were living a charity helped them set up their own newspaper as a source of income, it was full of opinion pieces and poetry, first guy we bought the paper off had written one of the poems and showed us some other ones of his that he had on him. I think it's way easier to end up homeless over there anyway.

Although, there was that time when some dude in a wheelchair chased me off (yeah...) when I tried to busk, because i was in his "spot".

Yahew · 20-10-2011 01:48PM

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

Ive been in San Fran, the people over there seem to be more friendly towards the homeless. I stayed in lower Haight. People left shoes,clothes and matresses out on the sidewalk for them. I wouldnt call them scumbags. There are scumbags in all walks of life

No they just leave their mattresses out in Haight. Someone will pick it up. Some day.

Yahew · 20-10-2011 01:50PM

Leftist wrote: »

So they're all about 70 years old? 70 year old crack heads.

Or maybe, just maybe, its the same issue that has plagued many cities in California.

Poverty!

You might be mixing up cause and effect. SF spends a lot of money on homelessness, however that is not going to end the problem unless every other city does, quite the opposite.

Think about it.

Mr Benevolent · 20-10-2011 01:51PM

Travelling to Australia is not 'travelling the world'. Neither is a brief stop in Thailand or San Francisco. And yes, I've lived in Australia. Briefly.

oranbhoy67 · 20-10-2011 01:52PM

i think i might head to san francisco then... it ill surely beat hanging about here in the cold waiting for employment to suddenly appear

mrsdewinter · 20-10-2011 03:42PM

derra wrote: »

This documentary/film would confirm that suggestion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Tar_Heroin_%28film%29

Jesus. That film is horrific. Erm, thanks, I suppose...

stone roses · 20-10-2011 05:00PM

Confab wrote: »

Travelling to Australia is not 'travelling the world'. Neither is a brief stop in Thailand or San Francisco. And yes, I've lived in Australia. Briefly.

when i said i traveled the world i didnt want to do a list of places but you get my point u.s 5 times , canada , oz , nz , asia, europe, mexico, cuba and a few other spots here and there but san fran was the worst for homeless in all my days of traveling and living abroad in oz , for me ireland is my home yes we got our problems but i wouldnt live anywere else , im happy with my tribe and i know there is nothing better out there for me that i cant get at home excepth a bit of sun!!!! :-) the american dream is a joke and all the countrys i have mentioned have there own problems two, so lets never forget we dont have it as bad as we think we do, there a people in much dyer conditions around the world and we here in ireland are doing ok , in san fran golf was on the t.v it was a show based in ireland and i have to say i was proud , they spoke of an amazing country steeped in history and such a wonderful people!!

san fran homeless crack heads!!!

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