Toddler left for dead in china, up to 30 passerbys ignored child suffering death

Cill Dara Abu · 18-10-2011 11:29PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Heres the Chinese viewpoint on it.

http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/videos/2-year-old-chinese-girl-ran-over-by-van-ignored-by-18-bystanders.html

Would you be willing to dump your entire family’s savings into the endless vortex of accident compensation?

One of the quotes from that shocked me.

Yes I fcuking would for a little girl dying at the side of the road!!

LighterGuy · 18-10-2011 11:33PM

I just posted a thread about it (didnt know there was this one)

its bloody shocking!
like those two drivers .. but then the people who just look and walk past.

what type of world do we live in?

JJayoo · 18-10-2011 11:45PM

I wish I hadn't watched that.

lesserspottedchloe · 18-10-2011 11:48PM

That's my hope, belief and respect for China totally gone and I quite honestly couldn't give a shít if that makes me a generalizing A-hole. If you ask me we have it pretty sweet belonging to a Nation where this would never happen to anybody least of all a tiny little girl...all we can do is hope this poor, sweet angel lives to see some form of justice. A new and devastatingly deep low for China.

Patrick2010 · 18-10-2011 11:56PM

Some of the Chinese comments on that site are truly breathtaking in their callousness, can anyone here imagine walking past a child lying in the street who has just been run over and not doing anything.

SellingJuan · 19-10-2011 12:02AM

This is the worst video I have ever seen. Although I have seen worse, eg (neo nazi) am video... But this is truly disgusting. Fcuk these people. I mean yes China has all this money they are offering to bail out Europe but seriously.. If this is what goes on... Brings me back to "General Mao" where 50 million people died of starvation. DURING this period CHINA was selling food to Russia even tho Russia offered to HELP... I hope in all my heart our countries never end up like this

mongoman · 19-10-2011 12:26AM

orourkeda wrote: »

"Hello Insurance company I had a bit of an aul tip today......................"

That's pretty pathetic really, those who are naturally funny know when to be. And those that try to hard, well they haven't a fúcking clue I suppose.

LighterGuy · 19-10-2011 01:33AM

You know what,
As bad as Irish society is (I personally think its dog eat dog) you still wouldnt have 18 people just walk by without helping.

Question I have ... is this mentality the people of China have? or is this just some kip of a city it happened in?

Run_to_da_hills · 19-10-2011 02:34AM

I came across this the other day,apparently the two drivers have now been arrested. It wouldn't surprise me at all giving the negative publicity that the country has received and the international outcry that the death penalty could be handed out to both of them and possible charges to those that ignored the child.

I would also believe that quite a lot of this and similar goes on in China but with the advent of CCTV etc and modern communications it is now only being exposed.

Duggy747 · 19-10-2011 02:42AM

I'm honestly quite surprised at how much this video has gotten coverage around the world. These videos are a dime a dozen, unfortunately, and are just filed under as another traffic accident + pedestrian ignorance topic.

Not to say that it shouldn't, I'm glad it's highlighted worldwide as it puts China in an awful light which they know international eyes are now on them to deal with it. They really need to get their affairs in order.

Though executing the drivers (if it came to that) wouldn't be the solution. The public need to be reassured that helping others instead of ignoring them won't cost them their livelyhoods, though that hasn't always been the way and has helped tarnished the public's obligation to help others in direct need (in certain parts of the country, of course)

crystallove · 19-10-2011 04:59AM

God will punish this people:mad:

sdanseo · 19-10-2011 05:09AM

It's a sad reflection on my generation and our exposure to violent scenes that I'm not more shocked by that video.

What upsets me more than its graphic nature is seeing so many people walk by. I'm sorry, but you can say whatever you like about laws, fear of being sued, syndromes and the like - but if that had happened in the middle of Dublin, the reaction could not have possibly been the same.

Wibbs · 19-10-2011 09:52AM

"China" isn't so much a country, but an empire and it has many different cultures within it's borders. So for a start saying "the Chinese are _______" is a mistake IMHO. You might have gotten a very different result in western Muslim China(I'd put money on that) than in the eastern Han areas and a very different result in a rural Han area than an urban sprawl. The urban sprawls have grown massively in the last decades and that growth has distanced people. The culture does appear to be very impersonal. More about the collective group than the individual. Certainly when compared to the west.

Others have mentioned their (to our eyes) animal cruelty and IMHO that does have an effect. Serial killers are well known to start off their mentalism with cruelty to animals in their youth. It would be my opinion that a culture like that does trickle down to how they treat fellow human beings. Then add in their history with huge numbers of Chinese dying from war and famine(people forget that the Japanese in WW2 killed nigh on 20 million Chinese, never mind the rape and torture). Add in the huge population with everyone scrabbling to the cities to make their way and it's easy to see how this kind of thing would happen. It's a culture that in many ways is a the perfect storm for depersonalisation and lower value on individual human life.

lolli · 19-10-2011 10:04AM

Such a sick story the poor little girl. You'd be surprised what people will do to protect themselves. My little brother was knocked down by a speeding car on the Walkinstown roundabout when he was 9 years old. The car had five people in it. They stopped looked out the door and drove off leaving my brother bleeding in the middle of the road. Thankfully other people stopped to help

happyfounder · 19-10-2011 10:38AM

so horrible...

Giselle · 19-10-2011 10:45AM

lolli wrote: »

Such a sick story the poor little girl. You'd be surprised what people will do to protect themselves. My little brother was knocked down by a speeding car on the Walkinstown roundabout when he was 9 years old. The car had five people in it. They stopped looked out the door and drove off leaving my brother bleeding in the middle of the road. Thankfully other people stopped to help

Thats terrible, I hope he was ok

I've had heartache since I read this story, its so sad. I'm really glad I didn't click on the video, I think it would haunt me.

I hope it causes a lot of introspection in Chinese society.

LandL84 · 19-10-2011 10:54AM

It's shocking that people can be heartless and so wraped up in themselves...

That_Guy · 19-10-2011 12:15PM

Watched this a few minutes ago.

Fúck people. :mad:

My name is URL · 19-10-2011 12:30PM

How come the link was removed from the OP? It's a widely reported story around the globe, not some underground snuff video, and it had an adequate warning attached both here and on YouTube. Way to shelter people from reality.. God forbid somebody gets offended after clicking on a link which they knew beforehand was graphic.

vibe666 · 19-10-2011 12:30PM

shampoosuicide wrote: »

for what?

AFAIK it was a one post user, so it was likely a duplicate account or something like that.

also, we're not supposed to question mod decisions on thread, boards.ie isn't a democracy (even though i know you were probably just curious about the decision, like a lot of us).

EraseAndRewind · 19-10-2011 12:46PM

stomach churning stuff
heartbreaking

i find the way she was handled at the end of the video very disturbing can u imagine the agony she must have been in and the way they grabbed her and dragged her oh the poor little baby

noodletop · 19-10-2011 12:51PM

Was i seeing things or did one woman stop,go to the child and move her to the side of the road then feck off about her business as if it was nothing?.
she should be charged with something for that act of cruelty.:mad:

Crazy Horse 6 · 19-10-2011 12:58PM

orourkeda wrote: »

"Hello Insurance company I had a bit of an aul tip today......................"

Not even a bit funny.

LandL84 · 19-10-2011 01:33PM

noodletop wrote: »

Was i seeing things or did one woman stop,go to the child and move her to the side of the road then feck off about her business as if it was nothing?.
she should be charged with something for that act of cruelty.:mad:

I've read that someone who moved the child off the street went to look for help, but noone provided any help, so eventually child's mother was found and she was brought to the hospital.. I don't know if the little girl survived.

Amzie · 19-10-2011 02:21PM

That video was so awful to watch! imagine if there had been no cctv and the person that came to her rescue had been to blame for her injuries! I think its a disgrace that the people are discourage from helping others as they are in fear of being made pay!

Seriously shocking the way the man in the van rolls over her then realises and then just keeps going...rolling over her again! What a monster:mad:

The people walking past her should be shot!!! Do they have no concience??? espcially the woman who walked past with her own child!

vibe666 · 19-10-2011 03:57PM

noodletop wrote: »

Was i seeing things or did one woman stop,go to the child and move her to the side of the road then feck off about her business as if it was nothing?.
she should be charged with something for that act of cruelty.:mad:

the first woman came over and moved the child out of the road and called for help, which was when the mother came running over.

the 1st woman was a scavenger looking through the rubbish bins and seemingly wasn't aware of other peoples hesitance to help those in need due to previous court cases etc. and just did what she thought was the right thing (i.e. try and help).

according to what i've read, she has been praised for what she did and given a sizable (comparatively speaking) reward and a job.

there is also talk of enacting a 'Good Samaritan' law to protect those who try and help others to try and encourage people in china to help one another if in need, rather than ignoring them for fear of being sued after that 2006 case.

Oranage2 · 19-10-2011 08:25PM

I didnt watch the video but I was in China and I was truely shocked at some things I've seen like beggars (children) with no hands and I found out later that if they didnt make enough money they'd usually get a hand/foot chopped off.
Also market places were slaughter houses where you could get an animal killed right in front of you.

My point here is that China would be very desensitized to death and Chinese people would have a keep to yourself mentality for the most part though younger chinese growing up in big cities would be different.

But would this incident be happen in Ireland, Europe USA?.....Absolutely!

A guy(off duty medic) was telling me that he had to do CPR on a colapsed woman outside the central bank -

He saw a large crowd gathered around a woman but nobody was doing anything - He asked somebody to ring an ambulance then he started doing CPR - he looked up at the guy he asked to ring an ambulance and the guy was using his phone to record what was happening.

Here's Tom Green in Canada/USA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csS_oySjfjU

Or another clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49YQhTLoGuA

The problem is that humans have a sheep mentality and we're not prepared to do anything unless somebody else does first.

To say that all Chinese are inhumane is a little harsh - They're just use to seeing this type of thing just like some of us would ignore a junkie lying on the ground.

shannon_tek · 19-10-2011 08:51PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

I didnt watch the video but I was in China and I was truely shocked at some things I've seen like beggars (children) with no hands and I found out later that if they didnt make enough money they'd usually get a hand/foot chopped off.
Also market places were slaughter houses where you could get an animal killed right in front of you.

My point here is that China would be very desensitized to death and Chinese people would have a keep to yourself mentality for the most part though younger chinese growing up in big cities would be different.

But would this incident be happen in Ireland, Europe USA?.....Absolutely!

A guy(off duty medic) was telling me that he had to do CPR on a colapsed woman outside the central bank -

He saw a large crowd gathered around a woman but nobody was doing anything - He asked somebody to ring an ambulance then he started doing CPR - he looked up at the guy he asked to ring an ambulance and the guy was using his phone to record what was happening.

The problem is that humans have a sheep mentality and we're not prepared to do anything unless somebody else does first.

To say that all Chinese are inhumane is a little harsh - They're just use to seeing this type of thing just like some of us would ignore a junkie lying on the ground.

I must say they are some interesting videos. But In the case of the second one with the homeless drunken man i can see why most would avoid. I know i would as i have. Because 1 i fear i could be assaulted. as i have been in that position before. 2 i could be pick pocketed. as i have observed in O'Connell Street. so......

pepefloyd · 19-10-2011 08:53PM

That video is obviously fake, is easy to see that.

nlgbbbblth · 19-10-2011 09:21PM

vibe666 wrote: »

boards.ie isn't a democracy

sounds like....China

oh wait...:rolleyes:

any Chinese posters wanna give a viewpoint on this tragic and cruel incident?

Toddler left for dead in china, up to 30 passerbys ignored child suffering death

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