Keneally Sub 2.14 in Amsterdam for OG standard?

Hard Worker · 16-10-2011 10:15PM

There are 5 women also capable of getting the qualifying time and they are all running the Dublin Marathon.

Dan man · 16-10-2011 10:47PM

The Hammer wrote: »

Is the "3 athletes" a constraint per country entering the Olympics? - it would be a great dilemma to have 5 guys qualify

What would happen then?

Would there be a "race-off" in another marathon? Or would it go on top three fastest times?

Yes, unlike the world championship marathon (which doubles up as the marathon world cup and allows up to 5 competing members per country), countries can have only 3 athletes on the start-line at the Olympics. A fourth can be entered as a reserve but only 3 will start.

robinph · 16-10-2011 10:56PM

Can't you only have one B standard runner?

Dan man · 16-10-2011 11:02PM

robinph wrote: »

Can't you only have one B standard runner?

Yep, only one with B-standard, and if someone has the A-standard then no runner from the same country with a B-standard will qualify. So, all will need to aim for the A-time for this reason as well as the fact that the current stance of the O.C.I. is that only A-standards will do.

TheRoadRunner · 16-10-2011 11:10PM

Hard Worker wrote: »

There are 5 women also capable of getting the qualifying time and they are all running the Dublin Marathon.

Ah women's sport doesn't count

I'm jOking of course. Who are the 5 HW? I can think of 3. Mccambridge and Byrne would be my favourites to actually do it. Great if there are 5 though. Really makes the women's race in DCM interesting.

Dan man · 16-10-2011 11:26PM

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

Ah women's sport doesn't count

I'm jOking of course. Who are the 5 HW? I can think of 3. Mccambridge and Byrne would be my favourites to actually do it. Great if there are 5 though. Really makes the women's race in DCM interesting.

Those are probably the most likely, but the likes of Lorraine Manning, Siobhan O'Doherty, Gladys Ganiel-O'Neill, possibly Rosemary Ryan could get close if they had a good marathon....are they all running Dublin? Ava Hutchinson also will be interesting to see how she goes. But McCambridge and Linda Byrne would be our best hopes I think.

Hard Worker · 16-10-2011 11:55PM

This is the list of Irish women taking part in Dublin. It would be great if 3 made the qualifying standard.

110 Maria McCambridge
111 Ava Hutchinson
113 Caitriona Jennings
114 Gladys Ganiel
115 Siobhan O'Doherty
116 Rosemary Ryan
117 Linda Byrne
118 Lorraine Manning
119 Pauline Curley
120 Angela McCann
123 Breege Connolly
124 Claire McCarthy

Dan man · 16-10-2011 11:59PM

Thanks for the list, great line-up there on the domestic front. Good luck to them all.

myflipflops · 17-10-2011 03:24AM

Superb running from Kenneally. Great to have at least 1 marathon entrant guaranteed.

Hard Worker wrote: »

This is the list of Irish women taking part in Dublin. It would be great if 3 made the qualifying standard.

110 Maria McCambridge
111 Ava Hutchinson
113 Caitriona Jennings
114 Gladys Ganiel
115 Siobhan O'Doherty
116 Rosemary Ryan
117 Linda Byrne
118 Lorraine Manning
119 Pauline Curley
120 Angela McCann
123 Breege Connolly
124 Claire McCarthy

It would be amazing if three made the time. Absolutely incredible really. It would be a (pleasant) surprise if even one qualified in Dublin.

Linda Byrne seems the most likely. Her recent 3/4 marathon was done at 2.40 pace (approx). I don't know what that course was like or how much effort she put into the race. I would guess she had plenty left in the tank. Maria McCambridge is certainly capable of running 2.37 at her best.

Dublin seems a strange choice for people to chase the time. It's a relatively tough course compared to some others on offer.

Pisco Sour · 17-10-2011 05:28AM

Great to see Mark get the qualifying time.

Have to say though that the marathon qualifying standards are incredibly soft when you compare to events on the track and even more so in the field. Deirdre Ryan had to qualify for a world final to get her A-Standard ticket to London, while we are looking at times some 10 minutes off the world record in the men's, and over 20 minutes off the world record in the women's qualify for London in the marathon.

myflipflops · 17-10-2011 05:49AM

04072511 wrote: »

Great to see Mark get the qualifying time.

Have to say though that the marathon qualifying standards are incredibly soft when you compare to events on the track and even more so in the field. Deirdre Ryan had to qualify for a world final to get her A-Standard ticket to London, while we are looking at times some 10 minutes off the world record in the men's, and over 20 minutes off the world record in the women's qualify for London in the marathon.

Simple, the marathon could have 1000 entrants and it would not effect the TV schedule. The standards are not as tough because they don't need to limit the numbers in the marathon. It's the same with the walks. The A standard for the 50km walk would be much lower than 3:59 if they needed to cut the field by 25%.

They don't want heats in the mens 10k so the standard is a stupid 27:45 (no Irish born athlete has ever run that quick). Same story across lots of events.

G-Money · 17-10-2011 06:44AM

Has Cragg moved up to the marathon for London? I thought he was still targeting the 5000m?

myflipflops · 17-10-2011 06:54AM

G-Money wrote: »

Has Cragg moved up to the marathon for London? I thought he was still targeting the 5000m?

Running Fukuoko in December (or has hinted strongly at it) with a view to running the marathon in London. He has the 5k standard as backup but has stated he believes he has zero chance of a medal/top finish in the 5k.

TFBubendorfer · 17-10-2011 09:32AM

Clum wrote: »

Fagan has targetted Houston before so should know a fair bit about it. Considering it's the US trials there'll be a good few runners of his standard who he knows from the racing circuit there, possibly even some of his old team mates, so it might sense for him to go for this one.

Fagan can't run in the trials as he is not American. He can run the "normal" Houston marathon, but with the Americans running the trials race a day before (or is it a day after) on a different course, his old team mates will definitely not be there.

Clum · 17-10-2011 10:28AM

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Fagan can't run in the trials as he is not American. He can run the "normal" Houston marathon, but with the Americans running the trials race a day before (or is it a day after) on a different course, his old team mates will definitely not be there.

My mistake. I thought the trials were being held in conjunction with the main marathon.

thirstywork2 · 17-10-2011 12:12PM

just a note about Ledwith as alot of people on here wouldn't know much about him.Indoor: 3k: 8:07.57; Outdoor: 1500m: 3:47.72; 5k: 14:01.11; 10k: 28:45.77.
he also finished 3rd in THE ncaa crossc ountry champs in 2008.
if he is fully fit he will run the standard.
Sean Connolly will be very close to the standard,although starting a full time college course the last few months will make it tougher for him.

Regarding the women I think Maria and Linda will both get the standard.

Ps a small note on Mark Kenneally who has no sponsorship.
Amazing such a fantastic athlete has no shoe sponsorship.
Part of the marathon mission team which will help out in a small way.

Jnealon · 17-10-2011 12:55PM

Kenneally is not alone in the lack of sponsorship, shame really.
To hold down a successful practice, train twice a day and put in over 120 miles per weeks deserves some sort of recognition.
Some do get samples etc but most of the time it's gear they don't use.

ecoli · 17-10-2011 12:59PM

thirstywork2 wrote: »

just a note about Ledwith as alot of people on here wouldn't know much about him.Indoor: 3k: 8:07.57; Outdoor: 1500m: 3:47.72; 5k: 14:01.11; 10k: 28:45.77.
he also finished 3rd in THE ncaa crossc ountry champs in 2008.
if he is fully fit he will run the standard.
Sean Connolly will be very close to the standard,although starting a full time college course the last few months will make it tougher for him.

Regarding the women I think Maria and Linda will both get the standard.

Ps a small note on Mark Kenneally who has no sponsorship.
Amazing such a fantastic athlete has no shoe sponsorship.
Part of the marathon mission team which will help out in a small way.

Seems to have adjusted fairly well so far setting PB in the half in build up to Dublin the Prep looks to have been going fairly well so hopefully the weather will be generous and allow for faster times as winds like today would be nightmare so hopefully conditions will favour faster times sooner to DCM

emerald007 · 17-10-2011 01:30PM

Lazy question but what is the Woman's A Standard time?

Pherekydes · 17-10-2011 01:38PM

2:37

robinph · 17-10-2011 09:41PM

Here is the leading group of Kenyans, and one Eritrean, at about the 30km mark I think it was:

They were already well clear when I saw the race go past the 5km point and had just kept pulling away. At the 30km'ish point they seemed to be 5 minutes clear of the next non-Kenyan runner (made up number but it seemed like ages), and everyone behind was pretty much running on their own.

There was a bit of a group that seemed to be going along aiming for about the A standard time, but from chatting with the dad of one of the Brits in that group they were about 10seconds off the pace at 30km.

Gary Thornton went through shortly after that:

Then here again just approaching the stadium with about 550meters to go:

Keneally Sub 2.14 in Amsterdam for OG standard?

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