Keneally Sub 2.14 in Amsterdam for OG standard?

ecoli · 16-10-2011 09:51AM #1

Trying to get on to the site now to confirm but what looked like him crossing the line in just under 2.14 just there

RacoonQueen · 16-10-2011 10:00AM

He did yeah, Athletics Ireland tweeted that it was sub 2:14

ecoli · 16-10-2011 10:04AM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

He did yeah, Athletics Ireland tweeted that it was sub 2:14

Super result fastest Irish Marathon time in the last 9 years

Hard Worker · 16-10-2011 10:08AM

ecoli wrote: »

Super result fastest Irish Marathon time in the last 25 year

Mark Carroll 2002 ?

ecoli · 16-10-2011 10:10AM

Hard Worker wrote: »

Mark Carroll 2002 ?

Haha oops slipped my mind:o

Rineanna · 16-10-2011 10:43AM

Kenneally 18th in 2.13.55. Irish marathon running on the rise at last!

Gary Thornton 29th in 2.19.27.

ecoli · 16-10-2011 10:44AM

Rineanna wrote: »

Kenneally 18th in 2.13.55. Irish marathon running on the rise at last!

Gary Thornton 29th in 2.19.27.

3 sub 2.20 runs in the space of 7 days is very optimistic alright

ultrapercy · 16-10-2011 01:07PM

who is the other sub 2.20 and where did it happen ?

Dan man · 16-10-2011 01:11PM

ultrapercy wrote: »

who is the other sub 2.20 and where did it happen ?

Thomas Frazer in last weekend's Chicago marathon. Think he ran 2:19:40 or there abouts.

TheRoadRunner · 16-10-2011 01:37PM

Yes great stuff. Pity things didn't go to plan for fagan last week. Hopefully Connolly can nail a similar time in Dublin.

Caprica · 16-10-2011 01:48PM

Fantastic running by Kenneally. Does this mean he is guaranteed olympic selection? or is there any other hurdles to clear.

robinph · 16-10-2011 02:05PM

Was dificult to spot Kenneally from the side of the route, just wearing the same sponsors kit as the pace makers I think so I only saw him after he'd gone past me at around 5km and 10km'ish but couldn't pick him out at the later points on the route. Shouted for Gary a few times and he seemed to be running well, and waved back at me a couple of times too so must have been comfortable.

My mate was looking for a sub 2:30, but managed 2:28 according to his Garmin so is very happy with himself. Was chatting with Phil Wicks dad at one point on the course, Phil Wicks being the winner of the RunBritain Grand Prix series, and was aiming for the A standard today, think he might have just missed out though.

Was fantastic weather for it today so a bit anoyed that I wasn't running myself, but was different to be chasing my way around the course on a dodgy Dutch push bike to try and see as many points as possible. Hopefully have a couple of pictures in a day or so, but I think most of mine came out too bright or very blurry. The blurryness is not due to my drinking because of not running...honest.

Krusty_Clown · 16-10-2011 02:31PM

IrishAthletics wrote:

Kenneally says drink stations were messed up. Only got his drink once after 5k, had to survive rest of race without his drinks.

Presumably, had the fueling situation been better, he could have run even faster. Cracking performance.

Dan man · 16-10-2011 02:32PM

Caprica wrote: »

Fantastic running by Kenneally. Does this mean he is guaranteed olympic selection? or is there any other hurdles to clear.

Unless more than three athletes make the A-standard and he stays injury-free, then Kenneally will be selected for the Olympics.

G-Money · 16-10-2011 04:27PM

My guess is that he will be selected. Do we even have 3 athletes that can make the A standard?? It's not like we have the strength of depth that the Kenyan's do.

I kind of think Fagan should be selected. He was on for 2:11 finish last weekend had he made it, it's not like he stepped off the track.

Krusty_Clown · 16-10-2011 04:35PM

G-Money wrote: »

I kind of think Fagan should be selected. He was on for 2:11 finish last weekend had he made it, it's not like he stepped off the track.

It's really tough on Fagan, but he can't be pre-selected. I mean what If a couple of other runners make the 2:15 standard? It would be unfair on them making the grade, only to have the spot handed to someone who didn't manage to complete the race (even if they have better potential to achieve a better result).

Anyone see/hear any interviews with Fagan since Chicago?

G-Money · 16-10-2011 04:52PM

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

It's really tough on Fagan, but he can't be pre-selected. I mean what If a couple of other runners make the 2:15 standard? It would be unfair on them making the grade, only to have the spot handed to someone who didn't manage to complete the race (even if they have better potential to achieve a better result).

Anyone see/hear any interviews with Fagan since Chicago?

I understand your point. If others get the qualifying standard, that's fair enough. But if we have a slot free, I guess it would be worth giving him a shot. He was so close to finishing. He probably could have walked the finish and still made the A standard.

Dan man · 16-10-2011 06:20PM

G-Money wrote: »

My guess is that he will be selected. Do we even have 3 athletes that can make the A standard?? It's not like we have the strength of depth that the Kenyan's do.

I kind of think Fagan should be selected. He was on for 2:11 finish last weekend had he made it, it's not like he stepped off the track.

Well Fagan cannot be selected unless he runs the A-standard time of 2:15hrs, you need the qualifying standard. I think there is a possibility we can have 3 qualified for London, Kenneally could be joined by Cragg and Connolly if things go well for them. Not sure what Fagan's chances are now though, it would be a very quick turn around for him to run another marathon in the spring and then peak again for the Olympics at the start of August. This would mean 3 marathons in under 10 months. It's possible but not ideal as we say.

G-Money · 16-10-2011 06:26PM

I see. Well hopefully we will get 3 good athletes with the A standard.

Hard Worker · 16-10-2011 06:38PM

G-Money wrote: »

My guess is that he will be selected. Do we even have 3 athletes that can make the A standard?? It's not like we have the strength of depth that the Kenyan's do.

I kind of think Fagan should be selected. He was on for 2:11 finish last weekend had he made it, it's not like he stepped off the track.

Sean Connolly has a good chance of getting the standard in Dublin as has Cragg in Fukuoka. Not sure how or when Fagan might attempt another.

Pronator · 16-10-2011 06:52PM

I've been told that he is motivated to try again after Chicago. Considering he was on for 2:11 he could run a 2:14/15 with something to spare and then still have time to push for a sub 2:10 in London. How many times have we been here with Fagan before, I'd love to see him do well but I would not bet on it. He is certainly physically stronger than he has been in the last 3/4 years but he does not have time on his hands - 9 months left for two marathon's at an elite level???

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

It's really tough on Fagan, but he can't be pre-selected. I mean what If a couple of other runners make the 2:15 standard? It would be unfair on them making the grade, only to have the spot handed to someone who didn't manage to complete the race (even if they have better potential to achieve a better result).

Anyone see/hear any interviews with Fagan since Chicago?

Woddle · 16-10-2011 07:08PM

Didn't he qualify for Beijing by running Dubai, this is also Hailles route so I can see this as a strong contender.

ecoli · 16-10-2011 07:12PM

Woddle wrote: »

Didn't he qualify for Beijing by running Dubai, this is also Hailles route so I can see this as a strong contender.

Geb Running Tokyo in Feb from what the reports say

Krusty_Clown · 16-10-2011 07:43PM

Hard Worker wrote: »

Sean Connolly has a good chance of getting the standard in Dublin as has Cragg in Fukuoka. Not sure how or when Fagan might attempt another.

The sad irony is that he would likely have recorded a cracking time in Dublin, had he targeted it instead of Chicago. Oh well, you can't plan for weather and hindsight is a great thing.

groovyg · 16-10-2011 07:53PM

Dan man wrote: »

. Not sure what Fagan's chances are now though, it would be a very quick turn around for him to run another marathon in the spring and then peak again for the Olympics at the start of August. This would mean 3 marathons in under 10 months. It's possible but not ideal as we say.

It would be a quck turn around, but Ryan Hall who ran Chicago last weekend has to run Houston in January if he wants to qualify for the US olympic team. So if Fagan really wants a place at the Olympics he will have to run one and get the time required to qualify.

ecoli · 16-10-2011 08:05PM

groovyg wrote: »

It would be a quck turn around, but Ryan Hall who ran Chicago last weekend has to run Houston in January if he wants to qualify for the US olympic team. So if Fagan really wants a place at the Olympics he will have to run one and get the time required to qualify.

The only difference here is that all Hall has to do there is win regardless of the time as he already has the standard so even as a 2.06 runner (2.04 if you count Boston) he may get away with a 2.10 or higher win.

In 2008 he won the trials by 2 min in a time of 2.09 from Ritz who has been struggling big time with injury so realistically you could even see him running 2.10

Compare that to Fagan who actually has to run a particular time

Clum · 16-10-2011 08:42PM

Great news about Keneally, saw him cross the line on Eurosport this morning.

Fagan has targetted Houston before so should know a fair bit about it. Considering it's the US trials there'll be a good few runners of his standard who he knows from the racing circuit there, possibly even some of his old team mates, so it might sense for him to go for this one.

Is Ledwith running Dublin? I'd say he'd give Connolly a good race.

The Hammer · 16-10-2011 09:20PM

Clum wrote: »

Is Ledwith running Dublin? I'd say he'd give Connolly a good race.

I heard Andrew Ledwith is running Dublin - not sure what shape he is in - has he ran a half marathon recently? I remember him easily winning the National Half last year. Not sure if he is even racing these days.

Would Ledwith be capable of sub 2-15? Certainly Connolly is at that standard (in my opinion)

TheRoadRunner · 16-10-2011 09:22PM

Realistically Connolly and cragg could run the qualifying times in the next few weeks. Fagan should be able to run it early next year. Ledwitdh may have an outside chance, hard to judge as I haven't seen him in a high standard race recently.

That's 5 athletes who could potentially get the qualifying time. If that happened how would athletes be selected? those with fastest times?Will probably need a selection race as form around the time of games would have to be considered. It's a great dilemma for Irish athletics if it transpires

The Hammer · 16-10-2011 09:38PM

Is the "3 athletes" a constraint per country entering the Olympics? - it would be a great dilemma to have 5 guys qualify

What would happen then?

Would there be a "race-off" in another marathon? Or would it go on top three fastest times?

robinph · 16-10-2011 10:03PM

The US would have trials which you have to turn up at and place in the top three to get a place. The likes of the UK might have trails for a lot of events where they then give the places to the two winners, with qualifying times, and then the selectors get to pick a someone else with a qualifying time. So they have a bit more flexibility if there is a superstar name that really should be picked but doesn't perform at the trials.

Running a trial for the Marathon is bit tough though so would usually be down to selectors picking who they think is most likely to get a result from those that have the time.

Keneally Sub 2.14 in Amsterdam for OG standard?

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