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Should Trinity have cancelled the Nick Griffin talk?

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  • #32
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    He should come up here and talk at the DUP conference coming up. Will be interesting to hear what he has to say.

    but its muslims he hates, not catholics. and he supports a united ireland :P


  • #33
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    maygitchell wrote: »
    No. Not when you are a racist and promote hate crimes against people due to their origin



    If you want to talk about My Little Pony or how you tickle your bum with a bar of soap be my guest; I will defend your right to say such things as long as they are within the law.


    Much difference between the DUP and BNP anyway?

    But its ok for you to denigrate unionism in this very thread?


  • #34
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Isn't it always AFA and leftwing groups that do this?
    You never see a bunch of nazi skinheads booing at a Labour rally.


  • #35
    J K
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 468 ✭✭J K


    I'd say the jews are behind this.


  • #36
    maygitchell
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 843 ✭✭✭maygitchell


    orourkeda wrote: »
    But its ok for you to denigrate unionism in this very thread?

    Meh.

    Id just rather talk about My Little Pony


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  • #37
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    biko wrote: »
    Isn't it always AFA and leftwing groups that do this?
    You never see a bunch of nazi skinheads booing at a Labour rally.

    yeah those nazis are a grand bunch of lads


  • #38
    pragmatic1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Let him talk so people can see how ridiculous his ideas are. Banning him gives some sort of power to his views.


  • #39
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    maygitchell wrote: »
    No. Not when you are a racist and promote hate crimes against people due to their origin



    If you want to talk about My Little Pony or how you tickle your bum with a bar of soap be my guest; I will defend your right to say such things as long as they are within the law.


    Much difference between the DUP and BNP anyway?
    He is entitled to his views. We allow everyone else to speak in society now, so why not Nick Griffin?

    If he did give into protesters, then that is very poor of him. He should try and come up here to put his views across if he can't do it in the Republic.


  • #40
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Yet they welcome anarchists like Noam Chomsky

    The student societies and liberals love him I suppose


  • #41
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Silencing what people have to say is what the Nazis did, the protesters are nothing more than that IMO. Anyway they're nothing more then sheep being told what to do.

    It's a shame somebody didn't silence that Hitler chap could have probably saved the world a bit of bother.


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  • #42
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    And people say protesting never achieves anything :D


  • #43
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    maygitchell wrote: »
    Meh.

    Id just rather talk about My Little Pony

    Off you go.


  • #44
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    It's kind of ironic that the outrage stemmed mainly from people who consider themselves to be free-thinking and progressive liberals. I thought that silencing dissenting or controversial voices was a right-wing thing.


  • #45
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Let him talk so people can see how ridiculous his ideas are. Banning him gives some sort of power to his views.

    The fact that you think his views are ridiculous shouldnt preclude him from expressing them.


  • #46
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    I saw that, it was repeated last night.

    Nothing too surprising but I was surprised at the criticism of that appearance. He's a decent speaker on his own, when he can rant about immigrants, but in a debate situation, pretty weak.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #47
    Duke Leonal Felmet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Duke Leonal Felmet


    You gotta laugh at the hyposcrisy of the left.


  • #48
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    My name is URL wrote: »
    It's kind of ironic that the outrage stemmed mainly from people who consider themselves to be free-thinking and progressive liberals. I thought that silencing dissenting or controversial voices was a right-wing thing.

    Indeed it is. But then how many people dont harbour some form of prejudice.


  • #49
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Duke Leonal Felmet wrote: »
    You gotta laugh at the hyposcrisy of the left.

    And the way they think thay can crush anyone with differing or far right wing opinions in a debate.


  • #50
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Duke Leonal Felmet wrote: »
    You gotta laugh at the hyposcrisy of the left.

    It isn't the "left" that's opposing this talk. I'm a leftist, I support the right of freedom of speech. Find a new collective to bash.


  • #51
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    My name is URL wrote: »
    It's kind of ironic that the outrage stemmed mainly from people who consider themselves to be free-thinking and progressive liberals. I thought that silencing dissenting or controversial voices was a right-wing thing.
    The left is the biggest problem in our society now. All these illegal immigrants coming into our countries, getting all the free benefits they want and then abusing "human rights" to stay in the countries.


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  • #52
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Let him talk so people can see how ridiculous his ideas are. Banning him gives some sort of power to his views.

    What purpose does it serve to ridicule people who hold differing opinions?


  • #53
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    orourkeda wrote: »
    What purpose does it serve to ridicule people who hold differing opinions?

    its funny!


  • #54
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Everbody is a racist.

    No, everyone is not a racist.

    As for Griffin, if he were a Boards poster, how long do you think it'd take him to get himself permasitebanned?

    Just remember, there is no freedom of speech.


  • #55
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Indeed it is. But then how many people dont harbour some form of prejudice.

    Harboring a prejudice is one thing, but forcing it on everyone else is quite another. The people who protested against his appearance should take a good look at themselves and at least try to see the hypocrisy they displayed by doing so. It just goes to show that some people on the 'left' are just as, or even more conservative as the people they so regularly deride.


  • #56
    desertcircus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭desertcircus


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    My name is URL wrote: »
    It's kind of ironic that the outrage stemmed mainly from people who consider themselves to be free-thinking and progressive liberals. I thought that silencing dissenting or controversial voices was a right-wing thing.
    The left is the biggest problem in our society now. All these illegal immigrants coming into our countries, getting all the free benefits they want and then abusing "human rights" to stay in the countries.

    Give me a break. Bigger than collapsing banks, debt crises, mortgage debt, the Catholic Church's attitude to paedophile priests? Name all these benefits illegal immigrants get. Go on, I dare you.


  • #57
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    sensibleken wrote: »
    its funny!

    Great.


  • #58
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    No, everyone is not a racist.

    As for Griffin, if he were a Boards poster, how long do you think it'd take him to get himself permasitebanned?

    Just remember, there is no freedom of speech.

    Everyone is prejudiced to some degree. It may not necessarily be along racial lines

    Anyone who say they are not is a barefaced liar.

    There is no true freedom of speech. I agree.


  • #59
    Eramen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    Leftist wrote: »
    Nah, ban him, his kind are dangerous.

    People are easily swayed, just look at the amount of people on here that hate foreigners. They'd love him.


    Irish people in general don't hate foreigners. They have concerns about the social-economic policy of mass-immigration that brought about unprecedented cultural, ethnic and religious shifts. They hate the fact that they were not consulted on this, by either our government or anyone else.

    Also, this seems to be a special topic were there is no discussion allowed in any fashion on the outcome or end goal of these immense national shifts; and so the Irish (and many other people all over the globe) have now become disillusioned with it.

    And we pride ourselves on being a democracy.. :rolleyes:


  • #60
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    desertcircus wrote: »
    Give me a break. Bigger than collapsing banks, debt crises, mortgage debt, the Catholic Church's attitude to paedophile priests? Name all these benefits illegal immigrants get. Go on, I dare you.
    Tens of thousands of illegal migrant workers could be claiming benefits due to a legal "loophole" in the welfare system, the Government said.

    The Department for Work and Pensions said that as the law stood, illegal immigrants could still claim employment and support allowance and statutory payments such as maternity or paternity pay and sick pay.

    Officials estimate that 155,000 people working illegally could currently be in a position to claim at least one of the benefits.

    A DWP spokesman said last night that measures in the Welfare Reform Bill, to be published shortly, would close the loophole.

    "We will shortly be bringing forward a Welfare Reform Bill to radically overhaul the benefits system, ensuring that work always pays and that fairness is at its heart," the spokesman said.
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23922955-thousands-of-illegal-immigrants-exploiting-loophole-to-claim-benefits.do


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  • #61
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Harboring a prejudice is one thing, but forcing it on everyone else is quite another. The people who protested against his appearance should take a good look at themselves and at least try to see the hypocrisy they displayed by doing so. It just goes to show that some people on the 'left' are just as, or even more conservative as the people they so regularly deride.

    I agree. Prejudice affects everyone to some extent. That's just the way life is.


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