Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Corvo · 11-10-2011 12:48PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

I'm really happy with the way we offer new contracts based on performance. Last season we offered Smalling a new contract just 1 year after signing him, then Hernandez, now Cleverley and Welbeck.

Exactly, and thats the way it should be. I don't see how some clubs (and Arsenal are notorious for this) offer good wages to young players which are not far off that of the first team players once they join the club.

For instance, their wage structure is rigid enough, but the gap between the younger players and the likes of Van Persie aren't massive.

No wonder they have a huge wage bill, paying the likes of Diaby and other fringe players a tidy sum to sit on the sidelines, or worse, being injured.

Think I also read that this could be the biggest factor when it comes to moving these players on. You have no other team (or a huge lack of them) that will pay the likes of Bendtner's wages, when he isnt proven to come in and actually perform to the levels that those wages would entail.

Mars Bar · 11-10-2011 03:31PM

Why would you offer another contract to Hernandez when he got a new one earlier in the year? Unless there is a release clause that Real Madrid can meet then he's going nowhere and can't do anything about it.

Blatter · 11-10-2011 03:38PM

mars bar wrote: »

Why would you offer another contract to Hernandez when he got a new one earlier in the year? Unless there is a release clause that Real Madrid can meet then he's going nowhere and can't do anything about it.

He hasn't signed a new contract yet. It's a bit overdue tbf, there were talks of it in the Summer but it never materialised.

Kylo Ren · 11-10-2011 03:42PM

How long was his original contract? 2? 3?

Corvo · 11-10-2011 03:44PM

Keno 92 wrote: »

How long was his original contract? 2? 3?

Ah I'd imagine its was 4 years to be honest, which is pretty standard. Three years is for the fogies.

Blatter · 11-10-2011 03:48PM

Yeah, 4 years is the standard for that type of signing and I'm almost sure it was that.

His status in the team has risen considerably since joining so he definitely deserves a new deal.

Kylo Ren · 11-10-2011 03:49PM

Well with 2 seasons after this season ceases I don't see the big panic yet. Would be nice to get his signature now but waiting till the Summer wouldn't that big of...

Hmmmm

Mars Bar · 11-10-2011 03:53PM

Blatter wrote: »

He hasn't signed a new contract yet. It's a bit overdue tbf, there were talks of it in the Summer but it never materialised.

Ah right, I was sure he had!

Corvo · 11-10-2011 03:53PM

Keno 92 wrote: »

Well with 2 seasons after this season ceases I don't see the big panic yet. Would be nice to get his signature now but waiting till the Summer wouldn't that big of...

Hmmmm

Oi...Less of it!:mad:

Kylo Ren · 11-10-2011 04:02PM

Griffin1988 wrote: »

Oi...Less of it!:mad:

Ah I can't see it happening myself. Chich seems like a loyal fella and I'm sure he wouldn't do the dirt of Fergie after everything he did for him and his family.

Blatter · 11-10-2011 04:09PM

Ha! Never mind Hernandez being a loyal fella, I can't imagine Madrid wanting him anytime soon. Why would they when they have Higuain, Benzema, Ronaldo, Kaka, Ozil and Di Maria?

You can only play 3 or 4 of them at a time, and they are all vastly superior than Hernandez. It's just a pathetic tabloid rumour. You'd think they'd put a bit more creativity into their lies and invent something somewhat plausible.

Corvo · 11-10-2011 04:12PM

Blatter wrote: »

Ha! Never mind Hernandez being a loyal fella, I can't imagine Madrid wanting him anytime soon. Why would they when they have Higuain, Benzema, Ronaldo, Kaka, Ozil and Di Maria?

You can only play 3 or 4 of them at a time, and they are all vastly superior than Hernandez. It's just a pathetic tabloid rumour. You'd think they'd put a bit more creativity into their lies and invent something somewhat plausible.

Not saying your wrong, because we all know this story is a heap of turd, but isnt it almost well known at this stage that Benzema and Kaka don't exactly have the full support of Mourinho?

Hence the battle between himself and the board to get anothers striker which resulted in Valdano (I think) leaving the club?

Kylo Ren · 11-10-2011 04:13PM

But Blatter it's The Sun.

Why would they ever lie to us?

Blatter · 11-10-2011 04:26PM

Griffin1988 wrote: »

Not saying your wrong, because we all know this story is a heap of turd, but isnt it almost well known at this stage that Benzema and Kaka don't exactly have the full support of Mourinho?

Hence the battle between himself and the board to get anothers striker which resulted in Valdano (I think) leaving the club?

Around last January, there was whispers that Mourinho was unhappy with Benzema, and wanted another striker because Higuain was injured at the time. However, I severely doubt it would still be the case now. Benzema kicked on big time last year and scored something like 26 goals in total. He lost something like 7kg over the Summer aswell and looks a class act this season. I'd say Mourinho is delighted with him now tbh.

There was plenty of rumours flying around about Kaka, and to be honest, it's hard to know what to believe. All I know is that this season, he is getting a lot more game time and is impressing.

Blatter · 11-10-2011 04:29PM

Keno 92 wrote: »

But Blatter it's The Sun.

Why would they ever lie to us?

It is produced to provide entertainment for those that can't read, and to sensationalise and put a slant on events that appeal to people who don't think for themselves.

Kylo Ren · 11-10-2011 04:30PM

Blatter wrote: »

It is produced to provide entertainment for those that can't read, and to sensationalise and put a slant on events that appeal to people who don't think for themselves.

But Blatter, what about the bewbies? Will someone please think of the bewbies!

Blatter · 11-10-2011 04:32PM

Keno 92 wrote: »

But Blatter, what about the bewbies? Will someone please think of the bewbies!

Can't you find something else to keep yourself occupied?:p

VW 1 · 11-10-2011 04:33PM

Keno 92 wrote: »

But Blatter, what about the bewbies? Will someone please think of the bewbies!

Sports Weekly Keno, Sports Weekly. Or the Hayley McQueen thread.

Kylo Ren · 11-10-2011 04:37PM

Haha thanks for the tips lads. I only buy one paper a day and that's The Irish Times for me and the father.

brb Hayley McQueen thread...

EDIT: VW with 1,234 posts. Sexy. Never post again to preserve this greatness.

curry-muff · 11-10-2011 05:15PM

Wayne Rooney names his five favourite strikers to Inside United and ManUtd.com...

Duncan Ferguson: "He maybe wasn’t as natural a talent as some of the others in my list, but in terms of his desire to play and win, he was as good as anyone. He also scored a lot of important goals, and was my idol when I was growing up as an Everton fan."

Alan Shearer: "He's somebody I always looked up to when I was a young lad. I watched him play for Newcastle and England, and I loved the goals he scored. He scored all sorts of different goals, and was a big, strong player who made defenders' lives difficult."

Ronaldo: "It’s a big claim, but I think at his peak he was probably the best centre-forward ever. When he was at his best he was unstoppable, absolutely unplayable."

Thierry Henry: "He was incredible at Arsenal. The goals he scored, the skills he showed, the pace he had… he was amazing. He’s definitely one of the best players I’ve faced."

Gianfranco Zola: "He's not technically a striker, but I used to love watching Zola play. He had skills, pace; he could score and conjure up a bit of magic. He was great to watch."

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 11-10-2011 06:41PM

Vidic starting for Serbia tonight, apparently.

Mars Bar · 11-10-2011 06:42PM

baz2009 wrote: »

Vidic starting for Serbia tonight, apparently.

It'd be great if he could come through a good hour without any niggle.

Giggsy11 · 11-10-2011 06:49PM

baz2009 wrote: »

Vidic starting for Serbia tonight, apparently.

Good to see him back. We need him back for game against Liverpool and he will get much needed game time today.

n32 · 11-10-2011 07:47PM

baz2009 wrote: »

Vidic starting for Serbia tonight, apparently.

Please Jesus let him be fit for anfield and city the following week. We re such a better team with him. He gives our defence a bit of confidence and he should provide de gea with better protection than Evans. With all defenders fit who would people here see as our best defence? I d love to see jones / vidic / smalling / a fully focused evra.
Jones physicality gets him the nod over rafael or fabio IMO

Mars Bar · 11-10-2011 07:50PM

n32 wrote: »

Please Jesus let him be fit for anfield and city the following week. We re such a better team with him. He gives our defence a bit of confidence and he should provide de gea with better protection than Evans. With all defenders fit who would people here see as our best defence? I d love to see jones / vidic / smalling / a fully focused evra.
Jones physicality gets him the nod over rafael or fabio IMO

Smalling is still injured isn't he? Rafael is still injured and Fabio came off injured so dunno if he'll be fit.

So we're left with Jones, Vidic, Rio, Evans and Evra.

Blatter · 11-10-2011 07:59PM

Smalling should be fit for Saturday.

G.K. · 11-10-2011 08:18PM

Evra is injured, is he not?

Blatter · 11-10-2011 08:21PM

G.K. wrote: »

Evra is injured, is he not?

He starts for France tonight, injury wasn't as bad as first feared.

Will I Amnt · 11-10-2011 09:11PM

Vidic missed pen.
That's mad is he their first choice penalty taker??

Rojiblancos · 11-10-2011 09:23PM

cambo2008 wrote: »

Vidic missed pen.
That's mad is he their first choice penalty taker??

Its good for Ireland though

Just need a France goal now and we're seeded

Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

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