Is boards changing Ireland in a bad way?

11-10-2011 09:16AM #1

I know the above sound a bit dramatic but hear me out!

I have been on boards about five years and I like it a lot.

Maybe I was living in a bubble or something, but I use to think the sort of people who were enraged by loan parents or who want to shoot everyone on social welfare, or were enraged by polish people here 'taking our jobs' etc...... were a small knuckle dragging minority, but they don't seem to be because the down right vile, nasty vicious comments you get in reply to some threads is disturbing.

So my point is, is boards changing Ireland in bad way by giving an outlet to that type of knuckle dragging comment.

Talking to people about this I have got two different replies.... Ireland was always like that and the Nazi party would have had a field day in Ireland as people would have been queuing up to join, or no public discourse in Ireland is becoming more self adsorbed and nasty in a way that it never was.

squod · 11-10-2011 09:18AM

Maybe people are right to complain.

listermint · 11-10-2011 09:19AM

mariaalice wrote: »

I know the above sound a bit dramatic but hear me out!

I have been on boards about five years and I like it a lot.

Maybe I was living in a bubble or something, but I use to think the sort of people who were enraged by loan parents or who want to shoot everyone on social welfare, or were enraged by polish people here 'taking our jobs' etc...... were a small knuckle dragging minority, but they don't seem to be because the down right vile, nasty vicious comments you get in reply to some threads is disturbing.

So my point is, is boards changing Ireland in bad way by giving an outlet to that type of comment.

Talking to people about this I have got two different replies.... Ireland was always like that and the Nazi party would have had a field day in Ireland as people would have been queuing up to join, or no public discourse in Ireland is becoming more self adsorbed and nasty in a way that it never was.

Em Let me see, Everything you said was a broad generalisation, So No I dont think it is,

And yes I think you need to go back to internetz college ........

Krusader · 11-10-2011 09:20AM

It's not Boards, it's AH, I feel the same and I spend less time in AH because of it

Immaculate Pasta · 11-10-2011 09:23AM

Down with this sort of thing!

geetar · 11-10-2011 09:23AM

listermint wrote: »

Em Let me see, Everything you said was a broad boards generalisation, So No I dont think it is,

And yes I think you need to go back to internetz college ........

FYP

listermint · 11-10-2011 09:24AM

Crosáidí wrote: »

It's not Boards, it's AH, I feel the same and I spend less time in AH because of it

Yes this Forum is ruining ireland, im ROFL at the fact that intelligent people (supposedly) are blaming a forum on ruining peoples outlook and the country as a whole.

Can you not see how idiotic that sounds ?? Please tell me you can.

11-10-2011 09:24AM

It is not a broad generalisation because I did not say everyone is I said some people, I am always careful to say SOME PEOPLE because of course it is not everyone in Ireland but it is a larger that I had thought.

It is after hours so my point is framed in an after hours way its is not a political debate, that dose not mean I don't have a serious point to make

Mr. Presentable · 11-10-2011 09:26AM

This site has none or a negligible effect on Irish life, so no to the OP. Facebook might have some influence, but not Boards.ie

staker · 11-10-2011 09:27AM

mariaalice wrote: »

So my point is, is boards changing Ireland in bad way by giving an outlet to that type of knuckle dragging comment.

You've answered your own question by starting this thread.
Surely that's a good thing?

11-10-2011 09:27AM

mariaalice wrote: »

but I use to think the sort of people who were enraged by loan parents

Are they parents that you can get on loan?

Mr. Presentable · 11-10-2011 09:28AM

mariaalice wrote: »

I know the above sound a bit dramatic but hear me out!

I have been on boards about five years and I like it a lot.

Maybe I was living in a bubble or something, but I use to think the sort of people who were enraged by loan parents or who want to shoot everyone on social welfare, or were enraged by polish people here 'taking our jobs' etc...... were a small knuckle dragging minority, but they don't seem to be because the down right vile, nasty vicious comments you get in reply to some threads is disturbing.

So my point is, is boards changing Ireland in bad way by giving an outlet to that type of knuckle dragging comment.

Talking to people about this I have got two different replies.... Ireland was always like that and the Nazi party would have had a field day in Ireland as people would have been queuing up to join, or no public discourse in Ireland is becoming more self adsorbed and nasty in a way that it never was.

Worth pointing out, apart from a very tiny few, people are not enraged at single mothers benefit or other benefit, they are enraged at the rampant abuse and the culture of entitlement that grows up around welfare.

Donal Og O Baelach · 11-10-2011 09:29AM

listermint wrote: »

Em Let me see, Everything you said was a broad generalisation, So No I dont think it is,

And yes I think you need to go back to internetz college ........

What an utterly miserable post.

11-10-2011 09:30AM

Don't know if loaning out your parents is good idea but maybe you could swap them for a while.:D

listermint · 11-10-2011 09:31AM

mariaalice wrote: »

It is not a broad generalisation because I did not say everyone is I said some people, I am always careful to say SOME PEOPLE because of course it is not everyone in Ireland but it is a larger that I had thought.

It is after hours so my point is framed in an after hours way its is not a political debate, that dose not mean I don't have a serious point to make

Re-examine how the internet works. Because you view on it is clouded. As stated above, people can say what they like (for the most part) and its anonymous (mostly).

Incidently, I dont belief most boardsie's have issues with Polish people, and im not sure where you are getting that from, But i do belief that most people have the view that our Welfare state is incorrectly managed from top to bottom. And I cant see why you have an issue when people are giving out about improper governance.

As i said i think your views are very skewed and you dont appear to given many practical answers to issues that are faced in this country.

Are my views racist or far right ? are they bad for the country?

Krusader · 11-10-2011 09:32AM

listermint wrote: »

Yes this Forum is ruining ireland, im ROFL at the fact that intelligent people (supposedly) are blaming a forum on ruining peoples outlook and the country as a whole.

Can you not see how idiotic that sounds ?? Please tell me you can.

I never said this forum or ruining Ireland, i said AH, reading threads in AH can lead you to feeling a bit deflated and I try to avoid it as much as possible.
Your reply kind of justifies my stance in my opinion

the groutch · 11-10-2011 09:33AM

Talk to Joe

11-10-2011 09:33AM

There is a vast difference between having an opinion about welfare which every one is entitled to and the sort of enraged nasty vile comments I am talking about.

listermint · 11-10-2011 09:36AM

Donal Og O Baelach wrote: »

What an utterly miserable post.

Can you explain please donal?

Maria has inserted so many generalisations that is laughable.

She must also not be aware of how people use the internet in terms of saying what ever they like. Some to just get a raise out of people like Maria. So yes I do think an understanding of exactly what occurs on the internet is warranted. And its very relevant to opening such a topic in the first place.

So again whats 'miserable' about the post?

Biggins · 11-10-2011 09:40AM

mariaalice wrote: »

...So my point is, is boards changing Ireland in bad way by giving an outlet to that type of knuckle dragging comment.

No.
The internet as a whole give an opens forum to all sorts of comments - amid those, will be the occasional daft post, etc. Thats life.
Along with daft posts however, comes retorts just as occasionally by those that are not going to allow such daftness to stand unchallenged - so it often works both ways.

Boards.ie is no different to any other open type forum in that within the confines of rules (and I have to say, one the best forums I've ever been on) you will get a to and fro of daftness and retorts (hopefully showing the error of ways).

reprazant · 11-10-2011 09:40AM

listermint wrote: »

Re-examine how the internet works. Because you view on it is clouded. As stated above, people can say what they like (for the most part) and its anonymous (mostly).

So basically people can say what they really mean and feel without fear of social exclusion or backlash?

listermint · 11-10-2011 09:42AM

Crosáidí wrote: »

I never said this forum or ruining Ireland, i said AH, reading threads in AH can lead you to feeling a bit deflated and I try to avoid it as much as possible.
Your reply kind of justifies my stance in my opinion

Well personally due to my nature and how i view AH, and i think most would agree. I treat all topics / comments in here with jest. Alot if it comes under the insane rantings of people who would write into the comments section of the times and the sindo.

Its like taking a guy standing on a soap box on Mary Street seriously ranting and raving. If you cant see that and laugh at it and those type of people then I do worry about people and how they think that ranting such as that have any impact on society as a whole.

har dee har

starbelgrade · 11-10-2011 09:45AM

I would reckon that Boards is only indicative of a certain demographic of Irish society & that the knuckle dragging element that makes itself known on Boards - usually quite loudly - is actually a smaller percentage proportionally than what exists in the outside world as a lot of these types wouldn't know their arse from their elbow, let alone know how to use "de internetz".

The good thing about Boards however, is that almost always, the sounder element of this site's users tend to counter argue (quite effectively) the more neanderthal views put forward and rarely, if ever, are the more extreme views left unchallenged.

This can only be a good thing really - as can discussion & debate of any kind, once it is conducted in some kind of civilised & organised manner (which it is, thanks to the Mods).

So I don't really see how Boards can be changing Ireland in a bad way - if anything, it's quite the opposite.

TheZohanS · 11-10-2011 09:46AM

mariaalice wrote: »

I know the above sound a bit dramatic but hear me out!

I have been on boards about five years and I like it a lot.

Maybe I was living in a bubble or something, but I use to think the sort of people who were enraged by loan parents or who want to shoot everyone on social welfare, or were enraged by polish people here 'taking our jobs' etc...... were a small knuckle dragging minority, but they don't seem to be because the down right vile, nasty vicious comments you get in reply to some threads is disturbing.

Can you give some examples? Because I'm thinking you're confusing some satirical posts with nasty posts.

11-10-2011 09:47AM

I am making a serious point in a place where, arch knowing cynical humours replies are what's expected, so I know what to expect.

This is inspired by SOME replies to thread that was on yesterday, I am disturbed by nastiness. I am not talking about people making points about social welfare or anything else for that matter thats healthy and good, again I am talking about the nasty vicious comments that are made about social welfare etc.

Of course I don't really think board is reshaping Irish society but it is giving an outlet to some nasty people but that's life on the internet.

Monife · 11-10-2011 10:05AM

mariaalice wrote: »

I am making a serious point in a place where, arch knowing cynical humours replies are what's expected, so I know what to expect.

This is inspired by SOME replies to thread that was on yesterday, I am disturbed by nastiness. I am not talking about people making points about social welfare or anything else for that matter thats healthy and good, again I am talking about the nasty vicious comments that are made about social welfare etc.

Of course I don't really think board is reshaping Irish society but it is giving an outlet to some nasty people but that's life on the internet.

Just because people have a different opinion to you, does not make them nasty people.

People are entitled to their opinions.

hooradiation · 11-10-2011 10:09AM

Crosáidí wrote: »

It's not Boards, it's AH, I feel the same and I spend less time in AH because of it

AH is like a tabloid, except the tits aren't confined to page three.

orourkeda · 11-10-2011 10:17AM

hooradiation wrote: »

AH is like a tabloid, except the tits aren't confined to page three.

yay

Cruthers · 11-10-2011 10:21AM

Boards.ie has got to be the dasest of board sites anywhere in the world.
This site is populated with the greatest number of dumb muppets.
I am now leaving boards and could not be bothered having anything to do with it.

orourkeda · 11-10-2011 10:22AM

Cruthers wrote: »

Boards.ie has got to be the dasest of board sites anywhere in the world.
This site is populated with the greatest number of dumb muppets.
I am now leaving boards and could not be bothered having anything to do with it.

What?

11-10-2011 10:26AM

I almost give up.

There is an enormous difference between arguing that you have some issues with the benefits people on social welfare get, and that you think there is a lot fraud and abuse in the system that is all well and good, but once again my point is aimed at the sort of reply that goes something like this " f### wasters the lot of them they are all lazy f####ing scroungers scamming the system " followed by a lots of thanks to the poster, and thats mild in regard to some of the replies you get.

Being sarcastic would be ""all ye bleeding heart liberals will be the first ones to be shot when I am in charge.

Is boards changing Ireland in a bad way?

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