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Police arrest man for child pornography after tipoff from burglars

  • 07-10-2011 11:22AM
    #1
    Sykk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭


    CNN
    A central California man has been arrested for possession of child pornography, thanks to a tip from burglars who robbed the man's property, authorities said.

    Last month, a juvenile and a 19-year-old illegally accessed the property of Kraig Stockard, 54, of Delhi, California, according to a statement from Deputy Tom MacKenzie of the Merced County Sheriff's Department. They broke into Stockard's barn and stole approximately 50 CDs they believed were blank.
    Stockard filed a police report on the incident on September 12, according to MacKenzie.

    But the young people who stole the CDs were in for a surprise. When they began putting the discs into their computer, they discovered that some of them contained pornographic images of children, the statement said.
    Despite having obtained the CDs under decidedly shady circumstances, the pair decided to report Stockard to the police.

    A search warrant was served and three more computers and three laptops were taken from Stockard's home, along with several external hard drives. Police said there were thousands of pictures and movies on the CDs -- more than 30 of the 50 discs had child pornography on them.

    Investigators said Stockard has been downloading indecent images of children since 2004. He has admitted possessing the pornography on the CDs but has refused to say whether there is pornography on the computers, they said. Stockard was booked for possession of child pornography and posted $25,000 bail.

    The two burglar suspects who reported Stockard have not been arrested.
    Their case has been sent to the Merced County District Attorney's Office for review. When reached for comment, a press officer told CNN the office could not comment on the case because one of the informants in question is a juvenile.

    Fair play to the two lads who robbed the place. They shouldn't have done it in the first place but I think it took balls to go to the police to report it after having committed burglary themselves!


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  • #2
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Either this, or a case very similar, happened a while ago and I have to say fair play to them.

    In that situation it would've been much easier to dump everything knowing the crime wouldn't be reported but instead risked themselves to bring a worse criminal to justice.

    Yes, they are criminals and should be locked up for burglarizing but it just goes to show that the mentality of criminals isn't simply black and white. They probably justify their crime somehow but recognized this as something that needed to be reported regardless of the consequences.


  • #3
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Who needs the cops eh...? Just let criminal's dispense justice. Worked for that other paedo who got disembowelled.

    Fair play to the 2 lads i'd say they'll get off with a warning here.


  • #4
    Mindkiller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭Mindkiller


    One thing I don't understand about pedos.. why do they need so much child porn in the first place? You always hear about mountains of CDs and HDDs being confiscated. Like they have a metric ton of the stuff


  • #5
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Mindkiller wrote: »
    One thing I don't understand about pedos.. why do they need so much child porn in the first place? You always hear about mountains of CDs and HDDs being confiscated. Like they have a metric ton of the stuff

    I guess it's somewhat difficult and risky to get so when they get some they get as much as possible to keep them going for good while.

    Having a lot also, I'd imagine, makes it easier to trade. No one is going to trade for a video or picture they already have.


  • #6
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    Mindkiller wrote: »
    One thing I don't understand about pedos.. why do they need so much child porn in the first place? You always hear about mountains of CDs and HDDs being confiscated. Like they have a metric ton of the stuff

    one thing you say :confused:


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  • #7
    Standard Toaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,291 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Honor among thieves.

    He should have bought a bluray burner


  • #8
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Oh my good that's shocking stuff, who in their right mind spells Craig with a K?


  • #9
    Jimoslimos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Why wouldn't he have destroyed the evidence once he discovered the break-in and missing CDs?:confused:


  • #10
    damonjewel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭damonjewel


    Mindkiller wrote: »
    One thing I don't understand about pedos.. why do they need so much child porn in the first place? You always hear about mountains of CDs and HDDs being confiscated. Like they have a metric ton of the stuff

    Yes I never understood this myself, its totally weird. I remember when reading about "the wonderland club" pedo ring that was busted years ago, that to join up you had to have 10000 pictures of pedo porn or something. Maybe the police should investigate guys that seem to constantly buy stacks of blank cds.

    As for the two guys that reported it, I'm kinda hoping it was Bubbles and Johnny from "The Wire" type deal


  • #11
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Mindkiller wrote: »
    One thing I don't understand about pedos.. why do they need so much child porn in the first place? You always hear about mountains of CDs and HDDs being confiscated. Like they have a metric ton of the stuff

    1. The police routinely over-estimate the amount. Makes for better PR.

    2. It's a form of OCD based around their overwhelming desire for something they can't (legally) have. I imagine it's common for heterosexual males in sexually repressive countries (e.g Saudi Arabia), to possess large amount of adult porn.

    3. The porn reinforces their fantasy that a lot of children would be interested in sexual activity with adults. i.e, it gives them hope of finding a 'willing' child themselves.


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  • #12
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Why don't cops always just get other people to get evidence when they have no warrent?


  • #13
    Hannibal Smith
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Why wouldn't he have destroyed the evidence once he discovered the break-in and missing CDs?:confused:

    Coz the burglars had it?


  • #14
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    amacachi wrote: »
    Why don't cops always just get other people to get evidence when they have no warrent?

    I presume they didn't have any evidence until after they got the warrant and carried out the search. The lads could have been bullshitting after all.

    Fuck knows how many malicious 'tip offs' the filth* get.


    *term of affection for the police.


  • #15
    Reign_on_You
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ✭Reign_on_You


    Fair play to the guys who reported him. Not an easy thing to do when you are facing an arrest yourself - Justice will prevail in the end


  • #16
    dark crystal
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    Why didn't they just give an anonymous tip off instead? Might have saved them getting arrested...


  • #17
    StephenHendry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭StephenHendry


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Who needs the cops eh...? Just let criminal's dispense justice. Worked for that other paedo who got disembowelled.

    Fair play to the 2 lads i'd say they'll get off with a warning here.

    i agree with you, same with gangland crime in this country. the gardai can't do anything except leaving 'fat freddie' and 'fat johnny' to take themselves out


  • #18
    CoolHat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 569 ✭✭✭CoolHat


    dark crystal wrote: »
    Why didn't they just give an anonymous tip off instead? Might have saved them getting arrested...

    Too true.
    I mean I could break into a house and see a dead body the resident killed. report it to the police, and in turn get arrested for breaking in. As they kick me in the cell "thanks for reporting it mate, now in you go" :pac:

    Now they're young and one is a juvenile. They might get off. But they're leaving their fate up the someone else. They might come up against a 'by the book' judge. While an anonymous tip could of done the job.


  • #19
    4leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    A strangely heart warming story, some scumbag burglars get a gripe with conscience and to spite the consequence they report it for a greater good risking prison themselves.

    I kind of hope the burglars with this action see themselves as greater then scumbag burglars and improve themselves.


  • #20
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Two wrongs never make a right.

    While nobody would condone the use of child porn material. The whole thing is just a clusterf*ck


  • #21
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Either this, or a case very similar, happened a while ago and I have to say fair play to them.

    In that situation it would've been much easier to dump everything knowing the crime wouldn't be reported but instead risked themselves to bring a worse criminal to justice.

    Yes, they are criminals and should be locked up for burglarizing but it just goes to show that the mentality of criminals isn't simply black and white. They probably justify their crime somehow but recognized this as something that needed to be reported regardless of the consequences.

    Nah, they should have to do something else, not get locked up though. Locking up a 19 year old for a non-violent burglary is a recipe for turning him into a harder criminal.

    As for the guy who owned the CD's, a nice long prison term is just what he needs.


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  • #22
    Ditch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    Sykk wrote: »
    " Stockard filed a police report on the incident on September 12, according to MacKenzie."

    :eek: That's fucking bizarre! The guy actually had the balls (?) to go and complain to the police that his CD's had been stolen!

    What if the cops had caught the thieves and then examined the discs?

    " Ahem; And would ye say that These are your stolen property, Mr Stockard? "

    Talk about the six million dollar question!

    So, maybe he actually hoped the cops might find his gear and just hand it back, without looking on any of the discs? I guess they wouldn't be able to have done that without a warrant?

    Jesus! That guy must have nerves of steel and a neck of pure brass!


  • #23
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Seriously folks, they are Paedos not "pedos", it's honour not "honor". When did we shift West?

    Those two lads would also have been done for possession of child pornography had the case been here.


  • #24
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Mindkiller wrote: »
    One thing I don't understand about pedos.. why do they need so much child porn in the first place? You always hear about mountains of CDs and HDDs being confiscated. Like they have a metric ton of the stuff

    Never figured this one out either. I mean the average person would have at maximum a few DVD's worth (and most of that would be video) many would have none at all.

    Unless its the case that its so difficult to catch people downloading child porn that its only the really prolific ones who are getting caught ?


  • #25
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Mindkiller wrote: »
    One thing I don't understand about pedos.. why do they need so much child porn in the first place? You always hear about mountains of CDs and HDDs being confiscated. Like they have a metric ton of the stuff

    Maybe they should just ask the offender which drives contain illegal material and which ones don't and just take those ones away for examination.


  • #26
    Snakeblood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Never figured this one out either. I mean the average person would have at maximum a few DVD's worth (and most of that would be video) many would have none at all.

    Unless its the case that its so difficult to catch people downloading child porn that its only the really prolific ones who are getting caught ?

    Maybe people think it's so hard to get the have to keep what they have? Normal porn is everywhere, which is fantastic.


  • #27
    Fbjm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Fbjm


    I don't know if this has already been said, but I would assume that they turned him in because they uploaded the discs onto their pc. They wouldn't want to chance someone finding it on their hard drive I'd imagine.


  • #28
    CoolHat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 569 ✭✭✭CoolHat


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Unless its the case that its so difficult to catch people downloading child porn that its only the really prolific ones who are getting caught ?

    I think that's the case. And I also think its the case with downloading in general. Any news story I heard of someone who got arrested for downloading (movies, music etc) was only because they were the ones sharing to thousands of people.


  • #29
    Snakeblood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Fbjm wrote: »
    I don't know if this has already been said, but I would assume that they turned him in because they uploaded the discs onto their pc. They wouldn't want to chance someone finding it on their hard drive I'd imagine.

    Then you just delete them, I'd have thought.


  • #30
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    dark crystal wrote: »
    Why didn't they just give an anonymous tip off instead? Might have saved them getting arrested...

    I don't think an anonymous tip would be enough for a warrant, I'd imagine they need evidence that identifies the person (who the warrant is for) as responsible.


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  • #31
    Raging_Ninja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    Snakeblood wrote: »
    Then you just delete them, I'd have thought.

    Simply clicking on delete and emptying the recycle bin isn't enough. The information is still on the HDD, and can be fairly easily recovered by someone who knows what he or she is doing.


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