Reversing out of your drive way...

JuliusCaesar · 06-10-2011 07:41PM

Yep, driver should have reversed in and driven out of his driveway. That's what I do, because I KNOW my view of the footpath is obstructed with the garden wall, and I'd hate to back into a pram or small child. It's awkward to reverse in cause it's a busy road, but if everyone did it, then the other drivers would be more aware of it.

OP, collect all your receipts, and do think about how much you are inconvenienced by having a fractured wrist - you won't be able to cycle for a while.

The ambulance should be free, as well as A&E, afaik, seeing it was a genuine emergency.

hypermuse · 06-10-2011 07:50PM

Beertons you fail at posting pics

Thanks for all the advice and opinions! greatly appreciated as I'm not exactly "in the know" bout these kinda situations!!

beertons · 06-10-2011 07:57PM

hypermuse wrote: »

Beertons you fail at posting pics

You're funny now, with only one hand. I'm busy not learning how to copy and paste, and looking out for cyclists on the road.

Little Miss Lady · 06-10-2011 08:00PM

hypermuse wrote: »

Beertons you fail at posting pics

Thanks for all the advice and opinions! greatly appreciated as I'm not exactly "in the know" bout these kinda situations!!

Pardon the cynicism but for someone with a badly fractured wrist, you're doing great with the oul typing here!!

Mike 1972 · 06-10-2011 08:03PM

Lando Griffin wrote: »

its full of rude people and screaming babies

On a bad day its the other way around :eek:

hypermuse · 06-10-2011 08:35PM

Little Miss Lady wrote: »

Pardon the cynicism but for someone with a badly fractured wrist, you're doing great with the oul typing here!!

its not very difficult to type with one hnad but thanks for the compliment! :cool:

Sorry, I spelt hand wrong?? my bad, musta been typing with my fractured hnad! Damn.. did it again!! what are the odds

Tigger · 06-10-2011 08:40PM

seamus wrote: »

Yes it's illegal to reverse from any minor road onto a major one. This technically includes reversing from your driveway onto the main road.

In any case, the person who is reversing is required to give way to all traffic at all times including pedestrians and cyclists. The driver is completely at fault.

Don't feel bad about claiming money from the driver and/or their insurance. They are the ones who have made the mistake, you are entitled to be compensated for all losses, including all medical bills, the cost of checking over and repairing your bike (get this done, drop it into the bike shop in UCD, today), any damage to your personal effects, and compensation for any college time lost, if appropriate. Think about all associated costs. You've fractured your wrist, so presumably now you'll need to take the bus for the next two months. You're entitled to claim that cost too.

It's far too easy in your head to say, "Ah I don't want to cause a fuss", but if you don't do this at the start, then you're the one who could be out of pocket over this. Don't accept a cheaper option in the hospital, don't accept cheaper replacements for your glasses or any bike repairs. You are completely and utterly entitled to be fully compensated for your losses. We're often far too soft about asserting our rights in this regard.

Go the Garda station closest to where the incident occured and report it. Today. This is a legal requirement and it will cover your ass in the event that the driver tries to claim that the incident never occurred.
It's amazing how many people suddenly change their mind about taking responsibility after they've gone and spoken to their friends and family about the incident.

this

i claimed 4 grand when i was run over yeatrs ago even tho the mates were telling me i could/should get more

during the process she went from really sorry to trying to blame me, and my shoulder still hurts today from that accident; 18 years ago

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 06-10-2011 08:58PM

Seachmall wrote: »

Should have been more careful OP.

Rarely is there a completely innocent party in a road traffic accident, all it takes is a small mistake on one side to be amplified by a bigger mistake on the other.

Talk to a professional on the matter, see what they say.

Sense, this post makes none...

Seachmall wrote: »

OP should have been more cautious of cars pulling out of driveways.

Regarding your accidents they could be the exceptions but I'd be sceptical of 1 person being in 3 accidents none of which were did they play a factor in. Not saying you're at fault but I am sceptical.

I'd say you haven't a clue what you are talking about

robbie_998 · 06-10-2011 09:00PM

AH HA !

i reverse into my garden :pac:

and drive out :P

06-10-2011 09:24PM

Seachmall wrote: »

Probably.Make sure a car wasn't going to pull out?

What a ridiculous comment. How on earth is a cyclist supposed to 'make sure' a car isn't going to pull out? Are they all psychic? You can't possibly know what some other braindead idiot is going to do. You can be as observant and aware as you can be, but if someone pulls out when you're already passing in front of them, there's nothing you can do.

I'm imagine Insurance companies only rarely pay out full claims, there's generally going to be a level of culpability on both sides.

I have no idea how you're applying that logic. I've witnessed plenty of accidents where one party (usually the injured one) was completely innocent. All it takes is one small mistake from one person. I've come to understand this 'victim blaming' mentality, though. People like to tell themselves the victims of crimes or accidents must have somehow done something to deserve it, so they can convince themselves that nothing similar will ever happen to them. Unless you never leave your house, you're at the mercy of other people all the time. You can do everything correctly and end up mangled or dead because someone else was distracted or careless. That's life.

blackbird98 · 06-10-2011 09:27PM

regarding the hospital expenses, if the hospital are aware that your injuries are the result of a car accident, and the driver is at fault,and insured, it is possible that you will get a substantial bill from them. On the basis that you will claim off his insurance, they know that you can claim for all medical expenses, in additional to loss of personal property, personal injury, etc.

I have had a similar experience regarding a car crash

ThisRegard · 06-10-2011 09:35PM

geetar wrote: »

driver didnt break any laws. it was obviously an accident, probably due to a lack of awareness on the OP's behalf if anything.

Priceless, a cyclist gets hit by a reversing car and you say it's down to the cyclist.

It's frightening some of the people I share the roads with.

alejandro1977 · 06-10-2011 10:05PM

yayamark wrote: »

Nonsense

It is not illigal to reverse from your drive way on to the road. Your driveway is not a minor road it is a private place.

ehm, no.
If the house was on a major road then it is illegal (if the road was a side road then it's not illegal), however most Cycle Lanes are on Major Roads. If you live on a major road then you should reverse in and drive out. End of Story.
http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-for-driving/good-driving-practice/reversing.html

How to reverse safely

Check for nearby pedestrians and traffic by looking carefully all around, in front of and behind you, over both your shoulders and in your mirrors.
Take special care where small children may be gathered, such as schools, playgrounds, residential roads, car parks or your own driveway.
If your view is restricted, ask for help when reversing.
Give way to other traffic or pedestrians.
When reversing from a major road onto a minor road, wait until it is safe, reverse slowly far enough into the side road to allow you to take up the correct position on the left-hand side when rejoining the major road.
Take extra care when reversing in darkness.
If you are in doubt get out of your vehicle and check the area.
You must not reverse from a minor road onto a major road as it is unsafe to do so.

**Timbuk2** · 06-10-2011 10:08PM

robbie_998 wrote: »

AH HA !

i reverse into my garden :pac:

and drive out :P

You're right, that is funny...

yayamark · 10-10-2011 01:18PM

alejandro1977 wrote: »

ehm, no.
If the house was on a major road then it is illegal (if the road was a side road then it's not illegal), however most Cycle Lanes are on Major Roads. If you live on a major road then you should reverse in and drive out. End of Story.
http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-for-driving/good-driving-practice/reversing.html

Read it again.

It is UNSAFE

Not illegal

monkeybutter · 10-10-2011 01:26PM

Might have been mentioned, but you'll just have to pay the standard a&e fee and there's nothing after this.

Great value really.

First hand expierence.

hypermuse · 10-10-2011 05:12PM

yayamark wrote: »

Read it again.

It is UNSAFE

Not illegal

I've had countless different people tell me it is illegal and one of my friends told me her friend was fined by a garda for doing it!!

monkeybutter wrote: »

Might have been mentioned, but you'll just have to pay the standard a&e fee and there's nothing after this.

Great value really.

First hand expierence.

thanks for the info monkeybutter (never thought I'd say that!)

Capt'n Midnight · 10-10-2011 09:18PM

If you know of a more recent act please update this.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/si/0182.html

Reversing

12. (1) Before reversing, a driver shall ensure that to so reverse would not endanger other traffic or pedestrians.

(2) A driver shall not reverse onto a major road from another road.

(3) A driver shall not reverse from a place adjacent to a public road onto a public road save where it is clear to the driver that to so reverse would not endanger other traffic or pedestrians.

This is the current penalty points document
http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Licensed%20Drivers/Penalty%20Points%20Chart.pdf
Failure to obey requirements regarding reversing of vehicles, e.g. Reversing from minor road onto main road
1 Penalty points on payment
3 Penalty points on conviction
€60 if paid within 60 days , €90 otherwise

Reversing out of your drive way...

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