New Metal Bands

No 1 Metal Fan · 04-10-2011 4:47pm #1

Can I ask a question does anyone here hate new metal bands e.g. Unearth

InigoMontoya · 04-10-2011 4:53pm

Yes, I hate all metal bands formed since 1998.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unearth

JBnaglfar · 04-10-2011 5:37pm

I like some, and dislike others. Actually, how new is 'new' in this discussion?

Sephiroth_dude · 04-10-2011 5:41pm

Its a bloated market at the moment in my opinion,too many metal bands,alot of them sounding the same.

No 1 Metal Fan · 04-10-2011 5:46pm

Hi im newbie on this site I started this thread just an hour ago

chin_grin · 04-10-2011 5:52pm

It's called getting old. You're used to all the old amazing tunes you like and now the kids are listening to the kind of emocore, screamo sh!t that's out nowadays.

There are plenty of amazing smaller bands spouting up. Just check out Metal Archives and the likes of facebook. Don't bother with mtv or any rock channel\magazine.......except maybe for Zero Tolerance. That's good.

nyarlothothep · 04-10-2011 5:58pm

I don't think its called you're getting old, I think most music nowadays is mostly sh1t and the fact that you have to go scouring for obscure bands is a sad reflection on an industry which favours conformity and marketability over originality, and that thing, called...oh wait, thats it, musicianship!

Nephilim Wolf · 04-10-2011 6:33pm

Welcome to Boards.ie Dave

. I hate pretty much all new metal bands especially Mastodon, Five Finger Death Punch, Trivium and hundreds of others as well. The problem with these new metal bands is that they lack great ideas, their guitar riffs/guitar sound are terrible and are uninspired. Also the rest of the music just doesn't really click with me either. The guitar work and arrangements comes first in any metal band for me, and the vocals are the second most important thing. I can't listen to any metal band if I don't like the guitar sound and the riffs no matter how great the vocals are. I also think that these new bands are just not electrifying enough for me in terms of the guitars anyway.

nyarlothothep · 04-10-2011 6:41pm

Nephilim Wolf wrote: »

Welcome to Boards.ie Dave. I hate pretty much all new metal bands especially Mastodon, Five Finger Death Punch, Trivium and hundreds of others as well. The problem with these new metal bands is that they lack great ideas, their guitar riffs/guitar sound are terrible and are uninspired. Also the rest of the music just doesn't really click with me either. The guitar work and arrangements comes first in any metal band for me, and the vocals are the second most important thing. I can't listen to any metal band if I don't like the guitar sound and the riffs no matter how great the vocals are. I also think that these new bands are just not electrifying enough for me in terms of the guitars anyway.

Thank you for this post. I thought I was the only one who thought Mastodon were incredibly boring and derivative, especially with the riffs and the pretentious but not in a good way themes/concepts. Five Finger Death Punch are utter sh1t, Trivium were ok for some songs but again completely derivative, the screamo vocals were sh1t, screamo doesn't sound good anyway, and then they became a Metallica tribute band.

pdbhp · 04-10-2011 6:47pm

Nephilim Wolf wrote: »

Welcome to Boards.ie Dave. I hate pretty much all new metal bands especially Mastodon, Five Finger Death Punch, Trivium and hundreds of others as well. The problem with these new metal bands is that they lack great ideas, their guitar riffs/guitar sound are terrible and are uninspired. Also the rest of the music just doesn't really click with me either. The guitar work and arrangements comes first in any metal band for me, and the vocals are the second most important thing. I can't listen to any metal band if I don't like the guitar sound and the riffs no matter how great the vocals are. I also think that these new bands are just not electrifying enough for me in terms of the guitars anyway.

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Thank you for this post. I thought I was the only one who thought Mastodon were incredibly boring and derivative, especially with the riffs and the pretentious but not in a good way themes/concepts. Five Finger Death Punch are utter sh1t, Trivium were ok for some songs but again completely derivative, the screamo vocals were sh1t, screamo doesn't sound good anyway, and then they became a Metallica tribute band.

What! Mastodon are awesome, now I'd agree with the both of you regarding the others mentioned but come on Mastodon are brilliant and have got me back into metal in the last decade as I thought most metal coming out then was tripe.

Nephilim Wolf · 04-10-2011 6:58pm

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Thank you for this post. I thought I was the only one who thought Mastodon were incredibly boring and derivative, especially with the riffs and the pretentious but not in a good way themes/concepts. Five Finger Death Punch are utter sh1t, Trivium were ok for some songs but again completely derivative, the screamo vocals were sh1t, screamo doesn't sound good anyway, and then they became a Metallica tribute band.

Thanks nyarlothothep. Thankfully bands like Moonspell, Amon Amarth, Omnium Gatherum, Arch Enemy, Septic Flesh, Amorphis, Primordial and Demonaz put bands like Mastodon and others that are similar to utter shame in terms of truly incredible and memorable guitar riffs, and also all those band have a really fantastic guitar sound, and are not afriad to let all hell loose and let go with really electricfying guitars. These new bands are just too green anyway, and do not want to use too much electricity.:p Seriously though you should check out the new albums by those bands I mentioned, you will be dissapointed.

Nephilim Wolf · 04-10-2011 7:12pm

pdbhp wrote: »

What! Mastodon are awesome, now I'd agree with the both of you regarding the others mentioned but come on Mastodon are brilliant and have got me back into metal in the last decade as I thought most metal coming out then was tripe.

I never really liked Mastodon that much at all. I find them too boring guitar wise anyway, and the riffs are quite bland to my ears. I've never like sludge metal bands anyway mainly due to the sludgy guitar sound. In terms of metal bands I prefer a lead guitar sound with a lot of high energy and loads of intensity. But each to his/her own.

pdbhp · 04-10-2011 7:23pm

Nephilim Wolf wrote: »

I never really liked Mastodon that much at all. I find them too boring guitar wise anyway, and the riffs are quite bland to my ears. I've never like sludge metal bands anyway mainly due to the sludgy guitar sound. In terms of metal bands I prefer a lead guitar sound with a lot of high energy and loads of intensity. But each to his/her own.

I see exactly where you're coming from, I was more into Slayer/Metallica trash metal for years and had no interest in sludge metal at all until I heard Mastodon and boom I was hooked, really loved how the songs unfolded over the 10 minutes that they usually were.
Infact the only bands I have got into since the late 90's were Mastodon and SOAD so maybe I'm just getting old.

Nephilim Wolf · 04-10-2011 11:28pm

pdbhp wrote: »

I see exactly where you're coming from, I was more into Slayer/Metallica trash metal for years and had no interest in sludge metal at all until I heard Mastodon and boom I was hooked, really loved how the songs unfolded over the 10 minutes that they usually were.
Infact the only bands I have got into since the late 90's were Mastodon and SOAD so maybe I'm just getting old.

I like the old Metallica and some Slayer quite a lot especially albums like 'Ride The Lightning' and 'Show No Mercy'. But what I was really talking about was bands like Amon Amarth, Moonspell, Immortal, Omnium Gatherum, Emperor, Mael Mórdha, Primordial, Darkthrone, Amorphis Dissection, Hypocrisy, Old Man's Child, Nokturnal Mortum and of course the old Iron Maiden albums. All those bands guitar work and intensity put new metal bands to absolute shame. I also can't stand most of the bands that Metal Hammer covers either.

Otis Driftwood · 05-10-2011 12:44am

Unearth are awesome.
:cool:

viadah · 05-10-2011 1:32am

I'm not versed enough to participate in a metal of the current epoch debate, but I'll throw Onedice (not to be confused with One Dice, trust me) at ya and see if anyone digs AND they're not really new considering their 'Life' album came out about ten years ago then they split.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOeyK_mYUfg

InigoMontoya · 05-10-2011 9:27am

I think there are plenty of good "new" bands around and I don't mind having to do a bit of rummaging to find them. That's nothing new, its always been worthwhile to dig beneath the surface in metal.

Angron · 05-10-2011 11:24am

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Thank you for this post. I thought I was the only one who thought Mastodon were incredibly boring and derivative, especially with the riffs and the pretentious but not in a good way themes/concepts. Five Finger Death Punch are utter sh1t, Trivium were ok for some songs but again completely derivative, the screamo vocals were sh1t, screamo doesn't sound good anyway, and then they became a Metallica tribute band.

You aren't alone! I have loads of friends who love Mastodon and think they can't go wrong, but I find them so bloody boring to listen to. FFDP are like the poor mans Lamb of God to me, and I was never a fan of Trivium.

But anyway, it's not that all new bands suck, it's just the prime ones that are terrible get plastered everywhere by the likes of Kerrang.

Riddle101 · 05-10-2011 11:50am

This thread speaks my language. I just haven't been able to get into a Metal band that's come out in the last 10 years, same with Rock as well. I've tried listening Trivium, but funny enough most of the stuff I like are the Metallica covers that they did. Then again, with Metal and Rock you really have to explore and look for music because it's still very much an underground type of thing. Unless you become a huge selling band or release a huge hit, you don't really get much exposure from the media.

That being said, there's just something about the last decade of Metal music that's so off putting. Although maybe it's because I have high expectations for music, and am somewhat waiting for the next break out band that could be the next Black Sabbath or Metallica.

old gregg · 05-10-2011 11:57am

I reckon that 'metal by numbers' has always been easy to do, and as such, there has always been plenty of 2nd rate metal bands. Every so often the cream rises to the top and we get something truly memorable.

smackbunnybaby · 05-10-2011 1:33pm

Can anyone name any TRUELY great albums since 2000?

As in face-meltingly good.

Or will young people now and in the future still consider Master of Puppets or Reign in Blood the albums of their generation (i.e. never bettered).

I refer to these albums as a lot youngsters discover metal through them.

InigoMontoya · 05-10-2011 1:41pm

Some newish* bands I really enjoy.

*It's possible that some of them go back further than I'm aware of.

Agrypnie
Baroness
Black Tusk
Bongripper
Callisto
Charred Walls of the Damned
Diablo Swing Orchestra
Fleshgod Apocalypse
Gallowbraid
Ghost Brigade
Giant Squid
Gojira
Gorerotted
Gorod
Grand Magus
Hail Of Bullets
High On Fire
Krux
KYPCK
Leprous
Mael Mordha
Mastodon
Minsk
Nader Sadek
OSI
Sectu
Sunpocrisy
Swallow The Sun
The CNK
The Flight Of Sleipnir
The Gates Of Slumber
The Ocean
The Sword
The Vision Bleak
Winterhorde
Woods Of Ypres
Year Of No Light

Otis Driftwood · 05-10-2011 4:56pm

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

Can anyone name any TRUELY great albums since 2000?

As in face-meltingly good.

Or will young people now and in the future still consider Master of Puppets or Reign in Blood the albums of their generation (i.e. never bettered).

I refer to these albums as a lot youngsters discover metal through them.

To name but a few

The Blackening - Machine Head
Anaal Nathrakh - In The Constellation of the Black Widow
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
The Haunted - One Kill Wonder
Napalm Death - Order of the Leech
Rammstein - Mutter
Vital Remains - Dechristianize
Opeth - Deliverance
Pig Destroyer - Prowler in the Yard
Nasum - Helvete
Meshuggah - Obzen
Lamb of God - As the Palaces Burn

Theres 12 albums released in the last 10 years and the bands hav'nt (in my humble opinion) done better before or after.

ride-the-spiral · 05-10-2011 7:09pm

The last years in metal have been very good. Obviously if you base the "state of metal" on the higher profile bands as advertised by Kerrang or Metal Hammer, you won't get the best idea of good bands around.

First of all, Metalcore. I mean proper metalcore, that has an audible hardcore influence as opposed to stuff like Trivium or Killswitch. Converge's Jane Doe is one of my favourite albums of all time (their entire discography is superb), Between The Buried and Me are an amazing mix of metal and hardcore, and other more melodic bands like Misery Signals, Knives Exchanging Hands and the like are some of the best examples of why metalcore is a much better genre than people give it credit.

You know what I'm just gonna list some bands because I'm not bothered writing a paragraph for each subgenre of metal that's been doing well the last few years.

Amorphis
Altar of Plagues
Agalloch
Alcest
Cynic
Ihsahn
The Ocean
Animals as Leaders
Baroness
Hacride
Insomnium
ISIS
Obscura
Persefone
Wolves In The Throne Room

I could go on and on naming bands which have released many "truly great" albums since 2000, many of which I'd prefer to listen to over albums which are considered classic.

And I don't want to leave out one of the best things about the last decade or so: Devin freakin' Townsend. Between Strapping Young Lad, The Devin Townsend Band and the Devin Townsend Project, he's released some amazing metal in the last few years.

Ugh, I am sick of writing posts to this effect.

Malice · 06-10-2011 12:13pm

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

Can anyone name any TRUELY great albums since 2000?

I don't mean this to come out as a rant against you personally but honestly if someone hasn't managed to find any albums that they regard as truely great in the last eleven years they may want to find something else to do with their ears because music just might not be for them.

I'm not going to produce a long list of albums or "new" metal bands that I regard as truely great, suffice to say that I like new metal bands and albums, old metal bands and albums and even those metal bands and albums that are difficult to categorise as one or the other.

Angron · 06-10-2011 12:17pm

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

To name but a few

The Blackening - Machine Head
Anaal Nathrakh - In The Constellation of the Black Widow
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
The Haunted - One Kill Wonder
Napalm Death - Order of the Leech
Rammstein - Mutter
Vital Remains - Dechristianize
Opeth - Deliverance
Pig Destroyer - Prowler in the Yard
Nasum - Helvete
Meshuggah - Obzen
Lamb of God - As the Palaces Burn

Theres 12 albums released in the last 10 years and the bands hav'nt (in my humble opinion) done better before or after.

Agree with all of these, in particular Anaal Nathrakh. And Prowler in the Yard reminds me; still waiting on the newest Pig Destroyer album :mad: Though now they have Adam Jarvis, which is awesome.

Elrollo · 06-10-2011 2:11pm

this kinda seems like a heavy metal d!ck measuring thread now haha

Nephilim Wolf · 06-10-2011 5:15pm

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

Can anyone name any TRUELY great albums since 2000?

As in face-meltingly good.

Or will young people now and in the future still consider Master of Puppets or Reign in Blood the albums of their generation (i.e. never bettered).

I refer to these albums as a lot youngsters discover metal through them.

I am actually a huge fan of Agalloch and Amorphis, but I wouldn not consider them new bands, especially not Amorphis as they have been around since around 1990. In answer to your question I think these particular albums are truly face-meltingly good.

Moonspell - Night Eternal
Amon Amarth - With Oden on Our Side
Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel (One of the best black metal albums since Emperor's In The Nightside Eclipse)
Draconian - Arcane Rain Fell
Mael Mordha - Manannan
Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness
Dark Tranquillity - Fiction
Dispatched - Mother War
Amorphis - Silent Waters
A Perfect Circle - Mer De Noms
Amon Amarth - Surtur Rising
Demonaz - March Of The Norse
Amorphis - The Begining of Times
Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain
Rotting Christ - Genesis
Primordial - The Gathering Wilderness
Agalloch - Marrow of The Spirit
Daylight Dies - Lost to The Living
Amorphis - Skyforger
Omnium Gatherum - New World Shadows
Sworn - Twilight
Summoning - Oath Bound
Rotting Soul - Khronos
Wintersun - Wintersun
Septic Flesh - The Great Mass
Swallow The Sun - Ghosts of Loss Sun
Darkthrone - Dark Thrones And Black Flags
I - Between Two Worlds
Arch Enemy - Khaos Legions
Blood Ceremony - Living With The Ancients
Hypocrisy - A Taste of Extreme Divinity
Agalloch - The Mantle
Amorphis - Silent Waters
Thulcundra - Fallen Angels Dominion (Fantastic new band that pay a lot of homage to Dissection)
Mactätus - Suicide
Fields of The Nephilim - Mourning Sun

All those fantastic albums are truly amazing, and none of them have just a couple of standout songs like some new metal albums these days. I also think that what No. 1 Metal Fan meant by new bands is bands that were formed a couple of years ago, and are covered by the likes of Metal Hammer and Kerrang.

deathrider · 06-10-2011 5:54pm

Nobody mentioning Gama Bomb yet? I know the style isn't new, but the band are relentively new, and certainly one of the most entertaining bands I've heard rising in the last few years.

Just Like Heaven · 07-10-2011 8:39pm

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

The Blackening - Machine Head

When I read the original question i knew straight away this was going to be the first reply. And it is a great album!

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

Anaal Nathrakh - In The Constellation of the Black Widow
Napalm Death - Order of the Leech
Lamb of God - As the Palaces Burn

I also would have suggested all of these. And the Time waits for No Slave by Napalm.

Also the Ihsahn albums especially After.

I'm suprised this and Axe to Fall haven't been mentioned yet;

Even if these albums aren't to your taste, if the only modern bands you can name are Mastodon, Trivium and Unearth (all of which I have seen on main stages at major UK festivals) your simply only scratching the surface of modern Metal music.

I'm sure there were loads of crap bands in the 80's aswell.

TheStickyBandit · 10-10-2011 1:15am

Why are there so many pretentious replies to such a ridiculous question?
Obviously people will have likes and dislikes. Listen to the stuff you like and don't listen to the stuff you don't like and don't start threads bitching about bands who aren't 'metal' enough for you! It's fucking pointless.

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