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Took Deposit on Car But change of mind

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭fabsoul


    no keep it,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    Its a 1k car. I wouldn't stomach holding that big a deposit on it. Seems like the cars well priced and will sell. Keep €50 for your trouble. A 1k car buyer is most likely saved hard/values cars very little. When I kept my deposit I turned down a €17.5k offer. Small in the scheme of things and I drove Carlow to Cork for a viewing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    pm. wrote: »
    If the car is going for 1k and he left you with 300 I would return the cash.... id say it took him a while to save up that
    emm no he had a 2011 car and lets just say a high ranking job


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    whats the point in a ****ing deposit if youre gonna give it back?
    tell him if you sell the car then youll refund him the deposit minus your costs. tell him otherwise tough ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    emm no he had a 2011 car and lets just say a high ranking job

    The word had makes you point null and void. Otherwise you're trolling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    Hogzy wrote: »
    I dont really get why people are shocked that OP is considering keeping the deposit.
    If i put money down on a car and then changed my mind i wouldnt expect the deposit back. The purchaser should have had all his particulars in order and should have been a little more informed before being stupid enough to put down a €300 deposit on a €1000 car. He has paid 30% of the purchase price and wasted valuable time. Plus the OP has turned down other offers.

    OP i would keep the money until the car is sold. Then return the deposit minus your costs. That will teach him to waste your time and others. People cant go entering contracts and then backing out because they have been careless. Thats not how the world works. Its immaterial whether he has a child or not. Most people have children.
    Totally agree however


    I rang him and told him to collect his money
    I sent texts to those interested to say it was sold
    I aint going to now say its not,they will think I am the one wasting their time.
    Will re advertise it,it was a wasted day but will never take a deposit again:mad:Thanks for all the replies :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Return deposit - minus a small deduction for your cost of advertising/readvertising and also time wasted.

    - Reading your posts I couldn't help feeling like you 'saw your chance at profit' here...... Do you really think you're cute, interesting and special enough to be worth €300 an hour - wet or dry weather?

    The world would be far less shítty if more people conducted themselves with a little more decency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭fabsoul


    Random wrote: »
    whats the point in a ****ing deposit if youre gonna give it back?
    tell him if you sell the car then youll refund him the deposit minus your costs. tell him otherwise tough ****.

    +1 here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    EPM wrote: »
    The word had makes you point null and void. Otherwise you're trolling.
    I aint a troll just stating a fact


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    I'd give it back to be honest. I'd feel pretty bad keeping 30% of the value of the car even if they guy changed his mind. If he was sound about it I wouldn't be happy with myself keeping it. If you had 8 calls etc you'll sell it no problem. €3 and a drop of rain... well that's a call you'd have to make yourself. It'd pretty obvious the general consensus is that people would give it back.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    If you had so much intrest readvertise the car and put 50 quid on to the price and give the deposit back. End of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    Raiser wrote: »
    Return deposit - minus a small deduction for your cost of advertising/readvertising and also time wasted.

    - Reading your posts I couldn't help feeling like you 'saw your chance at profit' here...... Do you really think you're cute, interesting and special enough to be worth €300 an hour - wet or dry weather?

    The world would be far less shítty if more people conducted themselves with a little more decency.
    I was to take deposit and he would pay the rest in 2 weeks time maybe 7 days, he wasn't sure when his wife was returning from Croatia with new pram.
    But I was doing him a favour for holding it for that long imo
    Never said I was keeping the whole deposit anyway and if I did I was within my rights I even asked to get a link to the pram so as I could get dimensions and see if it would fit,rang him and told him it would now he don't want car or his wife don't want it .I am a decent person and any deposits I gave though they were few I never sought my money back.:mad:
    btw he is coming for his money tomorrow which will be returned in full
    and as I said before will never accept deposits again
    ps he said if he didn't take car I could keep deposit
    should have said that earlier
    that's what I was posting about should I keep deposit?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,099 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    You don't have to return the guys deposit, however considering he seemed to be a fair lad who was going to buy the car only for this issue re: the pram and must have a young kid I'd give it back to him tbh. Don't remove adverts or the like again until you have the money in hand, you should have told any others interested to call me back next week as I've a deposit taken.

    Money is pretty tight by alot of people and a guy with young kids buying a €1k car isn't probably the richest man in the world so if it was me I'd give him back the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    Think I will ring him and tell him he can have his deposit back
    don't need this mess.:mad:

    Best bet, you could do without the hassle and it could be bad luck. But explain to the guy that you did receive a lot of calls after and it has cost you some money, they might be willing to give you a small bit of compensation. Be the better person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    emm no he had a 2011 car and lets just say a high ranking job
    Betty, he put down a deposit. If he now doesn't want it, the deposit is yours for the inconvenience. That's how the world works. You pretty much know yourself that you should let him go feck himself and keep the deposit for the grief.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    had asimilar situation once. fella came out put deposit down. came back next day trying to pick faults. wife was with him and obviously had given him orders. siad he wasnt taking it i said ok no problem.he then asked for his money back. well i can tell you after i stopped laughing and realised he wasnt joking. i told him the meaning of a deposit and if he didnt polite leave he would be getting something that had no monetary value.this is what is known as a timewaster and you are well within your rights to make him pay for that. i would thats how people learn stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,875 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Some strong sentiments on the subject here! Legally the seller is in the right to hang on to the deposit. But in the real world I guess most of us feel it totally depends on the situation what we would / should do. These two posts by EPM are a good example:
    EPM wrote: »
    I had something similar happen me recently. I kept the €200 I took.
    EPM wrote: »
    Its a 1k car. I wouldn't stomach holding that big a deposit on it. Seems like the cars well priced and will sell. Keep €50 for your trouble.

    I took a €100 deposit on a €2k car a few months ago. I made it perfectly clear to the seller that if, for whatever reason, he would not go ahead with buying the car, he would not get his money back. I also told him that I would mark all my ads as sold straight away and tell people ringing up that the car was sold. But of course he bought the car and paid the balance when he said he would.

    In case of the OP, I dunno. We really shouldn't jump to any conclusions here, we don't know enough about the case / haven't experienced it ourselves.

    If something like that happened to me and I thought they were a chancer, having spotted a slightly better value car after they put the deposit down, I'd keep it. If I thought they made an honest mistake (and let's face it - it would be a typical male mistake not to take into account that the buggy would have to fit into the boot :D) and would be very hard done by if they lost the deposit, I'd give it back to them. And having a car for sale that is getting a lot of interest would make the decision easier. A lot easier :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    Solnskaya wrote: »
    Betty, he put down a deposit. If he now doesn't want it, the deposit is yours for the inconvenience. That's how the world works. You pretty much know yourself that you should let him go feck himself and keep the deposit for the grief.

    Thanks for your support
    but am returning deposit not worth it bad karma:D
    Just the inconvenience of it all waiting in for him, telling others it was sold
    standing in Rain while he went for a test drive after test drive
    I mean I am a grandmother:DHe said his wife was tall and it might not be big enough for her and I agreed it probably wasn't then he asked about baby seat
    told him it was only possible for really one seat.He had ample opportunity to change his mind let him hear another buyer on phone so he didnt have to agree to buy it never pushed him into 1st time I ever received a deposit for a car but it will be my last:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    OP...I see from one of your posts that you are handing back the deposit to save on "hassle"

    Maybe next time, with the potential buyer, decide (a) why you are demanding a deposit and (b) the conditions of that deposit

    Sounds like you asked for one without thinking it all through...personally, I think you're entitled so some compensation for all of your efforts and refusals of sales... but can appreciate you just want the car sold for a fair price with as little problems as possible...:)

    Never actually heard of private car sellers asking for a deposit before....I've only experienced full price payments either buying or selling....would be interested in knowing how widespread that practice is if anyone cares to comment.?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Bettyboop wrote: »
    Thanks for your support
    but am returning deposit not worth it bad karma:D
    Good honourable decision on your behalf and as Earl would confirm, you will get good karma for it. Do the lotto next week!

    You obviously were within your rights to hold onto it but you are showing a level of decency that has been missing from this country for far too long.
    Well done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Bettyboop


    Cicero wrote: »
    OP...I see from one of your posts that you are handing back the deposit to save on "hassle"

    Maybe next time, with the potential buyer, decide (a) why you are demanding a deposit and (b) the conditions of that deposit

    Sounds like you asked for one without thinking it all through...personally, I think you're entitled so some compensation for all of your efforts and refusals of sales... but can appreciate you just want the car sold for a fair price with as little problems as possible...:)

    Never actually heard of private car sellers asking for a deposit before....I've only experienced full price payments either buying or selling....would be interested in knowing how widespread that practice is if anyone cares to comment.?

    I never asked for a deposit at all he asked me,said he would pay the €700 in 7-14 days time I asked him umpteen times was he going to buy this car for sure.He said car was in excellent condition etc etc and he wanted it.Told him I would be removing ad and would keep insurance on it just in case anything happened in my care.Dont think I could have been fairer and for others to say I was more or less trying to make a profit is so unfair.Even gave him a copy of mileage so he would know I wasn't driving it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,707 ✭✭✭stimpson


    30% is a big deposit. I'd normally offer 10%. But I'd only leave a deposit if I was sure I was buying the car. I'd be prepared to lose it.

    Return it if it makes you feel better but remember that you may end up dealing with tyre kickers and it may take time to sell. If you do return it keep 100 - to teach him a lesson if nothing else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    anybody stupid enough to believe in karma (good or bad) should gave the money back apoligise for wasting there time ask the poor fella if he was out of pocket and give him some money to buy a bigger pram


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    Greed is good ... keep the money :D


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    anybody stupid enough to believe in karma (good or bad) should gave the money back apoligise for wasting there time ask the poor fella if he was out of pocket and give him some money to buy a bigger pram
    Did you ever hear of the phrase "If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    kbannon wrote: »
    Did you ever hear of the phrase "If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all"?
    did you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    kbannon wrote: »
    Did you ever hear of the phrase "If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all"?
    you're just encouraging a timewasters wet dream. Leave a deposit for 14 days for 700 euro balance??? If you can't afford it, don't buy it. I buy a LOT of stuff, much of it for others, and a lot of people change their mind. Paying a deposit is a way of buying time to change your/their mind. The price you pay for changing your mind is the forfeit of the deposit. Sentiment and karma do not come into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    I think it's entirely reasonable to keep E50 for the inconvenience, cost of the ad and most importantly the loss of the eight callers who now think the car is off the market. Holding onto E300 would be harsh.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Solnskaya wrote: »
    you're just encouraging a timewasters wet dream. Leave a deposit for 14 days for 700 euro balance??? If you can't afford it, don't buy it. I buy a LOT of stuff, much of it for others, and a lot of people change their mind. Paying a deposit is a way of buying time to change your/their mind. The price you pay for changing your mind is the forfeit of the deposit. Sentiment and karma do not come into it.
    How?
    I'm not suggesting that people don't use deposits but as it turned out the buyer was unable to buy the car and the OP could but decided against keeping the deposit, which I feel is honourable. She seemingly has no great need to keep the money so why keep it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭Tefral


    Id keep the deposit and indeed i have done in the past. The amount of Fúcking timewasters out there are unreal!!


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